Anyone Try Warchal Karneol Viola Strings?
I got my viola restored (a great ebay find! German, c. 1900. $900 total for the instrument and restoration work and is appraised at $2500!) and it's pretty resonant already, and will continue to open. It's got Dominants on it, but is pretty in-your-face, so I need something that will settle it down a bit.
Has anyone tried Karneols? I am thinking of getting the Amber A. The tone right now isn't bright, per se. It's definitely rich, but extremely loud, especially under the ear, and resonates for several seconds after releasing a note.
Any other brands/combos would be appreciated too! I know lots of violists like Larsen.
I'm looking for something that will keep the color and richness, but maybe slightly less projecting, unless it being so loud is a good thing?
Move soundpost away from bridge. Shorten afterlength.
What's the after length? I also don't have the soundpost moving tool.
The afterlength is the bit of string between the bridge and tailpiece. It can be shortened by taking the strings off and turning the little nuts on the tailgut to make it longer.
DON'T ATTEMPT TO MOVE THE SOUNDPOST ON YOUR OWN!!!!
Also - do Not loosen all the strings at the same time. The sound-post might slip, or fall. Take it back to the Luthier that restored it. If that string rings for a very long time after bowing a note, the sound-post might be too loose or too far from the bridge, not to close to the bridge.
In my opinion, viola can never be too loud. Too much resonance (reverb) can pose a problem, if it is indeed in seconds...
Karneol is excellent, I'm using the C/G/D now on my viola, together with a Larsen A.
Of course, Lyndon—how silly it was for me to suggest that they learn how to maintain the instrument they play without being completely dependent on someone they have to pay out of their own pocket to do the same uncomplicated work.
only an idiot would think that setting a soundpost is easy work!!
Getting back to the topic at hand...I'm also curious to hear of people's experiences with the Karneol viola strings. Oddly enough, I almost bought a set this morning but stopped myself because I wanted to read more reviews. So this thread is extremely timely.
Just trolling-and bragging-due to bad experiences he/she has had with luthiers. It's best to ignore.
Hey, guys, I can go see my luthier. He would do those adjustments for free for me, always has. I'm not naive enough to try and move stuff around in there by myself, or loosen all my strings at once;that would be really dumb. I had the other orchestra teacher play on it today, and she said she really liked it. I'll keep the Karneols in mind, and play these Dominants in for a month or so and see how they are. I'll check out the Cantigas too!
Karneol didn't work on my viola. I use Larsen A, Vision Solo D, G and Permanent C.
My viola came with Dominants and my luthier suggested Obligatos, which was a big improvement. I have not tried the Warchals.
Kristen, it's hard to guess how a Larsen A might work - I think the effect is more unpredictable than is the case with most strings.
I love the Karneols on my 17” viola. Deep, resonant, and lovely. Fantastic price/performance ratio.
I'm new to having my own viola, so I haven't used instruments with good strings; just whatever the schools had that I was subbing at. So, either red labels or Preludes, and they weren't the best instruments to begin with, as you could imagine a public school would have.
The Larsen A is just awesome. Clear, beautiful, and responsive, without any nasally whine. I used to just suck it up and used the Kaplan Forza A since the set was already kind of expensive, but with Karneol C/G/D being so cheap, I'm happy to splurge for the Larsen.
Thanks Gene! I'll probably invest in the Larsen. How long do they last with regular playing? I'll be teaching, so I'll probably be playing ~10-15 hours per week.
Hi Kristen - I took the plunge and ordered the Karneol viola set (with synthetic A). It's not an overly expensive experiment, even it it goes terribly wrong. And I've just got to get those Helicores off of it! Anyway, give them a few days to arrive/settle in, and I'll report back!
The Amber A is pretty good, but Larsen sounds much freer and open for me. To stop a whiny A, a wound gut or synthetic A would be the best solution. The Eudoxa A is definitely the most beautiful A string you can buy, but not so clear and penetrating in high positions as steel. The steel A can sound fine for even up to 6 months if you clean it properly.
Thanks guys! I like reading about everyone's experiences, so keep them coming!
$20+ bucks for a Larsen A