LAURIE, please help: Search function not working
What happened to the three hour challenge discussion thread?
There was a another thread that disappeared ... someone who returned after reaching the Fiocco Allegro level and wanted to know what concertos she should be working on.
These days, threads get archived and disappear off the main page index. Problematically the old threads are from 2017 and earlier, and there doesn't seem to be an index for all of 2018 or for 2019-to-date.
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"Looking for a DBA?". He's getting a ride with Godot...
Lydia the problem there is that the search feature doesn't actually work. Try searching for your own name. Then sort the results by date. Epic fail.
I agree, Paul. The broken search functionality is very frustrating, and it seems that a lot of things aren't being indexed.
I was the one who wanted to know what to work on! Last night I learned the Mozart Minuet in Suzuki 7 after doing some double stop melodies (I forget the author, but it's Melodious Double Stops, a blue book), which didn't go too horribly. Spent maybe am hour or so on it. I tried numbers 2 and 3 in the same book, but ended up getting frustrated after the next hour and a half.
Malodorous Double Stops is by Josephine Trott.
Just because you got a few hits on a keyword doesn't mean it's working. I think the search box just initiates a site-limited Google search. But as Lydia said it doesn't seem to be very thoroughly indexed.
What Paul said. Many newer posts do not seem to have been indexed.
What I have been doing for a number of years is to copy each post I make here onto a word processor file, together with the date, number and title of the discussion thread. It is therefore a simple matter to do a CTRL-F search on the file to find out when I last discussed, for example, the topic of Monteverdi's violin concertos. Actually, that's not a real example because Monteverdi didn't compose any (as far as I know), and so I didn't discuss them. However, in the future, were I to do a CTRL-F search in my file on that particular topic then this thread would pop up in the result.
LOL Trevor what happens when you want to search someone ELSE's posts?
The search is working perfectly. Search "hour challenge", sort by date, and the original thread is at the bottom of the first results page. It is true, however, that Google does not seem to update its index on a daily basis for v.com, more like every few days.
Paul, but I don't have other members' posts on my word processor file!
Thanks for letting me know what's going on, everyone. We'll look into it and do as much as we can, but when it comes to how fast Google indexes the pages, there may not be so much we can do about that! But we will get the archive business in gear, it just may take a few days.
Laurie, my guess is what's happening is that pages are being archived before they get indexed. So much of 2018 and 2019 has never gotten crawled, because there are no public links to these posts on the site, and therefore Google never finds them.
Hi Everyone, we have created the scrollable archives, so I hope that helps when you are looking for posts.
Usually searches are terrible. "The following words in your search query were ignored because they are too common words: premonstratensian." Ugh!
A good example: Search "Anita Kaul". Note that only two threads show up, but she's posted several.
Ah, you want to search names of posters, we may be able to make that work better. It leans more to topics at this point. You can now scroll back through them indefinitely, though!
If you're relying on Google to index your site, I wonder if there is a way to promote that. I'll bet Google prioritizes that work somehow.
Also, if people delete their own threads, they won’t be there. That could be another reason you don’t find something!
Anita's threads have not been deleted.
So did you find them?
Did Kristen Stadelmaier delete her own thread?
Also, threads that didn’t have a lot of responses won’t index as high. That s just the way the searches work. But they are all there to be found, if not through the search bar, you can scroll back for them.
They don’t just disappear unless they are deleted, so if you truly can’t find it through the ways provided (either scrolling back through the threads or searching), then maybe so. What was the name of the thread?
One thread title is "Preparing to possibly prepare for auditions". If you search, for example, [prepare for auditions], that thread shows up in the results. But interestingly, if you search [anita kaul] it does not show up, although these words appear in the thread. This may be an artifact of how Google's way of determining whether a result is "relevant" works.
I wonder if the omission of author names in thread headings on the Discussion page is messing with indexing.
When it comes to the searches, the number of responses doesn’t matter as much as the number of people who have ever looked at the thread, whether they responded or not. So generally the ones that have been indexed the most (looked at the most) come out highest for relevance.
Jeewon that was by design, so people respond to the merit of the topic rather than just following certain people.
I wonder if you get a certain list by "relevance" and it only shows one "page" of results -- then if you sort by "date", are you sorting the entire list of search results, or only sorting the first page? To test that you'd need to be able to expand the number of results per page.