Thoughts about my string combo
I have done many experiments with string sets. My favorite string set is a larsen virtuoso with silvery steel e wondertone solo. I think this e is the same with evah green silvery e.
But i think something is missing with a ...not so much punch ...i don't know....
So i think i want emulate the old russian style. I will keep the G D Larsen Virtuoso because of the low tension and put ana Warchal Russian A with wondertone solo silvery steel e.
My violin is a French Nicolas D'Aine 19th century and every time i put it medium to high tension string it was a disaster.
So i need your thoughts or ideas for something else if i missed something .
I have tried Peter Infeld , Evah Green, Larsen Il cannone both regural and soloist, VTS, VS, Dominant with some E's,
Infeld Blue and Red.
I did not tried gut core because of pitch instability and high cost of money. I want a set max to 75 euros to change it every 2 months and keep it fresh.
P.S i do soundpost adjustment every time i change a different brand of strings.
I've had my latest plain guts on since October and I took them on tour overseas. I played in hot halls and subzero cathedrals and I had no issues with tuning. I have no idea where this idea came from that guts are fragile and unstable.
Dimitris - as with all questions about strings, I predict that you will get probably one or a couple of recommendations for almost any strings out there that you have not tried. Different strings sound different on different violins. What Cotton says he uses clearly works for him but might be a disaster for you. You need to consult a luthier who can hear what you have on the violin now and make a good guess as to what strings, if any, might sound better on your instrument. We cannot hear your violin and can only guess, based on experience with violins that are not yours, what strings might work best. Sorry to be a pain. Good luck!
Warchal Brilliant VIntage G and D, Avantgarde A, Amber E.
Thank you Tom, i know that. Thank you Lydia. I ordered Warchal Russian A . What are the differences in sound with Avantgarde A? I know Avantagarde has the helix spiral. I will try the russian A with virtuoso g d, but i want to try some gut core g d... not the expensive ones. Perhaps eudoxa but i dont know what gauge
Ooh you tried Larsen Il Cannone? How did you find them and what's the difference between medium and soloist?
Yes, I also would like to know your impressions and comparisons between the strings you mention. Why do you prefer Virtuoso over Il Canone, for example. From the Thomastiks you list, the one that worked better for me was Infeld Blue... So can you say how do you find them compared to Virtuoso?
Try Pirastro Gold Label Gut strings if you're interested. My violin is fairly new but it likes lower tension strings as well. Gold Label was brighter, louder and more responsive than eudoxa, and it was cheaper than eudoxa and tricolores while still having the same smooth and deep gut sound . They also were one of the most stable string sets I've ever used after the first 5 days of stretching. D string is my favorite out of that set. Russian A was a fantastic A string for me by the way. It's rock solid, blends well and can be surprisingly beautiful and warm.
I think the Avantgarde A produces a more complex tone than the Russian style A. They're both steel, just spiral vs. straight.
Lydia, I like that combo, but it’s not low tension. It’s higher than Eudoxas or Dominant mediums.
Carlos , Blue Infeld has the most quick response G i have ever see..but i don't like the hydronalium D A. Yes very responsive but on my violin i think D A lacks of depth...very one dimensional.
But of course il cannone medium will suit you if you want a string moderate tension clean sound and does it all... but like a robot.
I've been messing around with strings for almost half a century - with 3 cellos, 2 violas and up to 6 violins at a time (yeah - it's been expensive). And the changes in my hearing during that time have made it even more interesting.
Join a guitar forum and you'll quickly lose interest in strings!
Nice! Thanks for the review of Larsen Il Cannone Dimitris:)
What did you mean when you said the Il Cannone soloist will choke the violin though?
I'm sure the OP isn't asking anyone to tell him what strings to put on his 19th century violin...he's just wants a few clues so as not miss considering something that might work.
Thank you all for your answers! Joel with the term "choke" i mean the tension is enough high to not let the violin plates to vibrate. But this can fixed to some point with a soundpost adjustment. Sorry for my bad English if i didn't express it well.
On my part, thank you for your comparison, Dimitris. I agree with your review of the Infeld. Very easy to play them, but they miss some personality.
The "robot" bit was hilarious. Il Cannone regulars were not good on my Vuillaume but there are plenty of other violins they work for. I haven't tried the Solo version since more tension usually isn't a plus on my violin.
"P.S i do soundpost adjustment every time i change a different brand of strings."
I thought the soundpost position depended on the fiddle, not on the strings?
Yes its difficult to find the correct spot with so many tensions.... but when you have a G with 4.4 kp and another G with 5.0 the soundpost can not be at the same place. The placement of soundpost affect the feel of playability of the left hand. I don't know if i express it well. A five kp G if you loose the soundpost may be very easy to vibrate and feels ok like medium... in many cases
Soundpost must place exactly "by the book" in one spot but... you can play with mm then :) loose - tight etc
Tricolore have no "power" problems whatsoever-they are rather bold. So I must come to the conclusion that Mr. Victor's conclusion is a bit skewed towards strings which make power and ultimate under-the-ear volume decibels the priority. This is not meant as a slight-why should I have problems with him-but more to help others avoid taking his unflattering view of those strings as final (it is valid, but also an opinion, just like mine). They are bold and powerful not because they are "what Heifetz used", but because they are. Some of the weaker E steel strings sound small relative to the pure gut A, and I doubt the Pi Platinum E or any heavy steel E (Westminster 27.5, Jargar Forte, etc.) can overpower it.
Adalberto have you tried Larsen Virtuoso ?
I did not tried Evah Pirazzi Weich ..hahaha but this days i was thinking of them! Are you inside my mind?? I was among the evah weich, larsen virtuoso, warchal brilliant vintage... but i have never tried gut. I can see me in the future to become gut-lover with all these i read.
The problem with strings is that they are immensely personal to the violin.
You should definitely keep the Larsen D and G
Stavros , i will put the Brilliant Vintage and then i will decide.
From what you tell us, Mr. Avramidis, yoi should tru Vintahe first, even if something else works for Mr. Kampouroglou.
Mr. Valle-Rivera my violin is a light constructed with rather thin plates. Medium synthetics nowdays are rather high tension. All brands advertise medium tension but if you look the numbers they start with a a G 4,7 or higher... and the stark version is even higher.
Vintage Brilliant is lower tension. They are definitely better on my violin than the Brilliants. On my violin, Vintage Brilliant is closer to the sound of Passiones, whereas Brilliant is closer to the sound of Evah Pirazzis.