Fiddle music notation question
I have the Miller and Perron book, Traditional Irish Fiddle Music. There is an ornament notation I'm unsure about. It looks like a tilde. Is that meant to be a turn? I'm used to turns with curlicues on them and this has none. So I'm unsure if it's a turn, or something fiddle-specific, or just a notation I have not previously encountered. It does not look like a mordent.
I have that book as well. Nice collection of tunes!
Great--thanks! Found a video on the Irish roll and I'm good to go. :-)
My experience is that the tilde is used in printed Irish music as a catch-all indication of an ornament of some sort or other, but usually an Irish roll, which is far faster than a "classical" roll and likely with a quite different note pattern. It often has a percussive effect when played at speed.
I'm just using them for sight reading and a fun warm up. Not trying to become expert. The fact that Irish musicians always have everything memorized eliminates that possibility for me LOL! I have always sucked at that.
It's a turn or turn-around or roll, whatever you want to call it. What you do with it depends on the context, and because it is a traditional music, you have a lot of freedom. What is really cool is when you have a turn on a first finger it uses the third finger, not the second; 1-310-1. A turn on a dotted quarter-note in 6/8 time happens in the middle of the note, not at the end the note. Irish and Scottish fiddle ornaments are fast and have a popping sound. Some of that is influenced by the bagpipe ornaments, which can be rather wild, and are used as an articulation, separating the notes that would otherwise sound completely smooth.
If the fiddle music is morris or English Playford (17/18th c) then there is very little ornamentation, and when present it would tend to be the standard ornamentation of the period.
The OP clearly said they were playing Irish music. And you wouldn't want to tell an Irish fiddler that their music was from the British Isles...
The only thing I might add to the good info already mentioned is that it seems much easier for me to learn a tune in the beginning WITH ornaments. I have learned a few thinking I would learn the ornaments later on and it was much more difficult than if I had simply learned them first.If the ornaments are a normal part of the learning process it seems easier in the long run. Of course experienced players throw things in wherever they take a notion to do it because the ornaments are second nature.
`Kevin Burke explains it very well here, ---
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