G string recommendation?

October 29, 2018, 7:52 PM · Hi everyone,

I have a Gliga Gems 2 with pirastro tonica strings. The E, A and D strings all have very good sound. However the G string is very dull sounding.

Any string you would recommend to try? I was thinking of trying a dominant g sting...

I heard its fairly common to have a dull sounding g string / uneven strings on a violin, is this true?

It's a new violin (label reads 2018), will the sound even out with time/playing?

Replies (13)

October 29, 2018, 8:03 PM · I generally find the Tonica G to be dull, too, across different violins. I’ve always felt it’s a bit too high in tension for the rest of the set.

I tried a light tension Tonica G with the other Tonicas, but the tension felt and sounded too low in most cases, and they are being phased out, I believe.

If you don’t want to try another set, then a Dominant G might blend relatively well.

October 29, 2018, 8:08 PM · Do you have the original bridge on it?

Most of the Gliga bridges are poorly cut. When I had the one on mine redone awhile back there was an instant improvement in response across strings and tone. It also took the 'grainy' feeling out of it and made it much more clear.

You could try Warchal Brilliants - I've had good experiences with those + gliga.

October 29, 2018, 8:38 PM · I recommend adjustments to your bridge and soundpost. Then just get any higher tension G.
October 30, 2018, 1:04 AM · A gut G string works well with synthetic D. Pirastro Gold Label G might be the least expensive version.
October 30, 2018, 6:06 AM · Thanks everyone for your input : )
October 30, 2018, 8:12 PM · I actually tried a Eudoxa G with my other Tonicas, and the response of the G was very noticeably slow compared to the Tonicas. I could imagine Gold Label blending better.
Edited: October 31, 2018, 1:34 PM · My favourite gut G is the Pirastro Chorda. Not too expensive - on-line in the UK it is about £18 (just under $23USD) from thestringzone.co.uk. There is a choice of silver-plated or plain copper winding, the plain copper being intended tone-wise more for authentic period performance.
October 30, 2018, 10:38 PM · For me even the Eudoxa G (rigid) is responsive. Sometimes using a brilliant E that is not heavy tension *can* help. I have not used Tonica in some decades, though, so cannot help with G+Tonicas.

But yes, the Gold Label G is quite clear, loud, and responsive, though not as full sounding as the Eudoxa. They are all underrated by Pirastro themselves with the "value gut string" moniker.

The Tricolore G is quite excellent, but is peculiar in that it needs time to get to its true sound. If any of you ever try it, give it time to develop. Very articulate G, while retaining your instrument's warmth.

Edited: November 25, 2018, 5:23 PM · It sounds like your son's violin is at fault and there is absolutely no string that can cure a poorly constructed violin.
I have managed to make my G string preform better by using ZMT tailpiece (not affiliated with Zoran Markovich) and by adding a small weight on my D string behind the bridge. That weight shifted the position of my (rather horrible) wolf a bit.

About the strings - I needed volume, and plenty of it, so I experimented with some of the "powerhouse" strings and I can say this:
- D'Adario Zyex: Deep and powerful strings, but E is absolute hogwash. They do - however - only play loud and that's it. They lack a bit of depth.
- Pirastro Evah Gold - thunderous and brilliant with shimmer beyond belief. But they only last 2 weeks. Then they become just your average string for a month. Then they die quickly and horribly.
- Thomastik Vision Solo Titanium. - Power, depth, less shimmer than evah, but they last a good 3 months and die in sneaky ways, so you don't know why you suck all of a sudden...
- Thomastik PI - complex, but without focus and power. They die quickly and horribly.
Of all these - you can only get Thomastik of the right length for ZMT....

For E string - I only use Westminster. And not the hard version (I have it on right now and it whistles like there's no tomorrow), but the mid one. It has depth brilliance to spare and lasts about 2 months.

November 25, 2018, 6:33 PM · Do you have a proper set-up? I'd try that first. Then I'd consider either the lighter or heavier-gauge Tonica G to see if that's any better.
November 25, 2018, 6:50 PM · I found few weeks ago that Tonica G is as high tension as Evah Pirazzi green G string, which is one of the highest tension synthetic in the market.

So if you wanna try something else, you'd go with a lower tension G string

Edited: November 26, 2018, 7:33 PM · Why do not just give a try of an Evah Pirazzi green G (medium), which is more powerful, projecting, and brilliant than Tonica G. Does it sound what you are seeking for?
November 27, 2018, 12:45 PM · Why don't you go to your luthier and get suggestions. Unlike your luthier, we cannot hear your instrument with the current strings and setup. Any specific recommendations you get are simply educated guesses based on your description and the current string choices. Your luthier is in a much better position to diagnose why your G string sounds dull because s/he can hear and see the instrument. It might be setup, soundpost positioning or string. Good luck!

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