Jade l'Opera Rosin

October 11, 2018, 7:55 AM · I can't understand why so many people rave about Jade rosin.
Sure, it's nice compared with beginner's rosin, but I think it is over-rated.
What do you think?

Replies (23)

October 11, 2018, 8:40 AM · Lots of good rosins out there. I haven’t seen a lot of raving about Jade here on Vcom. The raving is usually reserved for Bakers, or Liebzeller gold dust extra fancy. Stuff like that. For a while, Andrea was all the rage, but that seems to have died down as well.
If Jade doesn’t do it for you, try something else. I happen to like the price/performance ratio I get from Magic rosin. But that’s just me.
October 11, 2018, 10:10 AM · Jade has the advantage of being an excellent rosin for only about $10. I like it a lot, and it used to be my regular rosin.

However, everyone is different. Bow hair, strings, and the interaction of player/bow/violin, along with the sound that you want, will affect what you like.

October 11, 2018, 11:11 AM · Everyone raves about whatever new, expensive, fancy rosin comes onto the market. The grass is always greener on the other side—the other side, in this case, being the opposite end of a $40 purchase.
Me, I have a cake of Kaplan dark and a cake of Pop's bass rosin. Works fine. No need for gold flakes or "purified" tree saps.
October 11, 2018, 11:28 AM · I personally prefer Tinkerbell's Golden Flying Dust rosin. Come on, unless there's a huge difference between one rosin and another, you won't be able to tell ever what rosin are you using. Blind test 5 rosins 10 times consecutively and you will end up saying many times the same rosin is 3 different ones.
October 11, 2018, 11:59 AM · I got a cake of Jade rosin some months ago.
I tried to use it on a pair of bows.

I did not like it. For me, sound was less warm and with less focus than before (i usually use Bernardel).
The bow was more slippery.....

I recently gave it to a friend.

October 11, 2018, 1:57 PM · Marco, are they still your friend?
October 11, 2018, 5:33 PM · Ahahahahah :D
No! :D
October 12, 2018, 12:39 PM · I buy rosin for various whimsical reasons and chose Jade because of its green color and used it for several years. I ordered Bakers because of all the hype and used that one for several years. I also bought Liebenzeller with meteorites in it and used that for several years as well. Is their really ground up meteorites in it I wonder, but it is a good product.
Edited: October 12, 2018, 12:59 PM · I really liked Liebenzeller during the years I used it (mostly first half (so far) of this century). I actually had copper, silver, gold and the meteoreizen-loaded mostly all III-hardness for cello. My favorite was a choice between the gold and the meteoreizen, both had a good grip, but both would get a little sticky after 90 minutes of playing. The silver made sounds too "peaky" for my ears (even as they were failing) and the copper (that was gifted to me as a sample by Ellen Gunst of cellos2go.com) was too soft-sounding - but an excellent choice for beginners (in a way) because it was very forgiving of bad (crooked) bowing.

My first exposure to Liebenzeller was a cake of gold-I that I bought in Bethesda. MD in the late 1960s during a business trip to DC. I found it useless - like trying to rosin with a stone and I never realized it was Liebenseller until 20 years ago when I began to try different rosins - but never again a Liebenzeller-I.

October 12, 2018, 4:28 PM · If it sounds good (yes, they do sound different) and plays well on your bow and string set up (yes, that can vary too), then go with it.
THAT should be your criteria period, end of sentence, done.
October 14, 2018, 9:12 AM · I keep Jade around because years ago I had a student who was allergic to rosin. We tried several kinds, even some that were supposed to be hypoallergenic. The Jade worked for that student.
October 16, 2018, 11:25 AM · I use Jade. I previously used Hill dark, and before that, Gustave Bernardel. I tried the Jade on a whim one day because my teacher had it, not really expecting anything, and both she and I were quite surprised at how much it improved the tone I was able to get out of my violin. Obviously not as much as, say, a different set of strings, but it was very noticeable, enough so that after I gotmy own cake, several people who didn't know I'd switched rosin later commented that that I was sounding better. Can't say how it would work for anyone else, but for my particular bow/violin/string set up, it's been awesome (and it's only $10.)
October 16, 2018, 12:11 PM · I use Millant Deroux rosin. Anybody else using that?
October 17, 2018, 3:38 PM · I had a cake of Kaplan, unused, but I just opened my drawer, and it's in two pieces. I don't think I'll buy any more - it comes in a soft bag, not a box, and it doesn't seem to be sufficiently well protected.
October 17, 2018, 6:35 PM · I used Jade for a while, but it only seemed to last about twenty minutes before it wore off. I have since switched to Melos dark and am happy with it.
Edited: November 9, 2018, 11:46 AM · Sorry, but I'm going to bump this thread rather than start a new one, although someone a while back objected to that. I just rosined my bow with Hidersine 6V after not bothering for 4 or 5 days, and it sounds horrible. Too gritty and crunchy. Do people find that initially, maybe if you put too much rosin on, you need to work off the excess?
I shall be keen to see if it wears off, and I'll wonder about using a more amber rosin instead, like the 3V. Which means Ari's response above is interesting.
November 9, 2018, 12:50 PM · I prefer to use a lot of rosin but too much rosin does not affect my sound but is just dustier than need be.
November 9, 2018, 1:20 PM · Maybe I just got used to an almost rosin-free bow?
November 9, 2018, 2:56 PM · You shouldn't over-rosin. If you're getting your bow rehaired regularly, with good-quality hair, just a swipe or two is usually sufficient. Over-rosining results in a lot of nasty grit.
Edited: November 9, 2018, 4:49 PM · The owner gets jaded if this rosin is used outside of the opera house!
November 9, 2018, 5:11 PM · I just bought Jade rosin a week ago after shattering my cake of Hill Dark. I notice my articulation instantly became much cleaner and my sound is a little bit smoother overall. I think Jade is my choice of rosin for the foreseeable future.

That said, I play viola and most of the improvement I've seen has been on the heavier C and G strings. All but one of the Jade users I know locally are violists. I can't comment about how Jade works on violin.

November 10, 2018, 11:55 AM · For me it's perfect on violin as well as on viola. It claims to be an alround rosin also suitable for cello, so I guess it's rather on the softer side?
Edited: November 10, 2018, 3:22 PM · Now that I’m on steel strings on vla and vlc, I’m finding that I like the grip of Guillaume better than Jade and my other standbys- Millant, Salzman, and Andrea solo&piacere.

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