Any updates re Warchal Timbre? I’m specifically interested to know how they compare with Evah Pirazzi Gold?
Thanks in advance.
They project well. There are a lot of overtones, and the E is amazing. I found the silver G can get a bit strident, but Mr. Warchal contacted me and told me they are working on a warmer G options.
In the link below, at the bottom of the page, Warchal gives a useful tip on breaking in new strings very quickly. Admittedly, the strings they are talking about are their latest product, Timbre, but I would imagine the method they describe could be applied to other synthetic strings of a similar nature.
I'd buy them again if I need to perform in recital. They project really well while have lots of tone colours. My violin is a dark sounding with little projection so this set works amazingly well.
An update: I just received the "warmer G" prototype string in the mail from Mr. Warchal. I will test thoroughly and post my findings in a separate thread.
After thorough testing of the warmer G that Mr. Warchal sent me, I can say the difference is subtle as he predicted. But the new string really has power (while singing!) in the upper registers. The string balance is even across strings, and this is definitely a powerful set of strings.
I am really looking forward to trying out the new spiral-steel A and the warmer G. (I got mine from the Warchal online special when there wasn't a choice of A, or I would have gotten the steel one, I think.)
How do we get to try the warmer G?
Yea, I'd like a trial for the warmer G as well.
Also what's the promo code for v.com members (it says there is one in the ad)?
Mine arrived in yesterday's mail and I installed them first thing this morning. I've replaced a set of EP Golds.
I'm waiting for mine in the mail! I got the synthetic A, but now I kind of wish I got the steel A. My Russian A was wonderful, so I expect the Timbre steel A to be amazing too.
@Kristen: I'm using a Brilliant G&D/Russian A/Amber E combo on my secondary violin, and I like it pretty well, myself. I can't wait to try the Timbres on my primary violin and see how they compare with PI's.
Jen, how did the PI's do? My teacher first recommended either getting Obligatos or the Pi series when I switched from Dominants, but the Infelds were way too expensive so I've never gotten to try them.
Are you folks getting these strings direct from Warchal? If so, how would someone go about that?
Yes. Go to warchal.com
I've really enjoyed the PI's on my violin. They're higher tension than Dominants; one of my regular stand partners has a violin that seems to prefer low tension strings, and she didn't have a good experience with them. Personally, I do like the platinum E, but I often skip it in favor of an Amber E or a less expensive Evah Pirazzi platinum E.
So at least 3 people are using Warchal combo: Brilliant vintage G D + Steel A + Amber E. Maybe I should give it a try when my Timbre set wears out
I used my Obligatos for about a year before changing them (yikes!!), and I didn't notice how dead they actually were until I put on my Warchal setup. What a difference!
I use the Avantgarde A. It has much of the warmth of a synthetic; most people won't be able to tell it's steel.
Timbres have been on for 5 days now - still stretching, but I don't play much but I've been tuning them up several times daily and running through a but of playing.
I just put on my Timbres! I'll be keeping the brand new Amber Forte E as a spare, but I'm pleasantly surprised that the Timbre E has the same coil as the Amber. I think it makes a heck of a difference! I already can hear the lush overtones just from plucking (it's 11:42EST so my dad would not appreciate me playing ff right now... That'll have to wait...) but I already like them better than the EP Golds.
Kristen, on your advice I replaced my PI-Pt-E with the Timbre E this morning. Quite a string, very powerful.
Huh, I should try that! I never thought about doing it in cello position, but that makes a lot of sense.
I've had the Timbres on for about 5 days so I can offer some first impressions.
Reading these replies are interesting. I would love to try the Timbre but no where in my location sells them and I have to order Warchal strings online as it is when I use them. Which is fine with me, but I don’t want to take the chance of falling in love with them only to not be able to use them in the future!
Kim W, see my post of Sept 29 in this discussion. This is where I described applying Warchal's advice on their Timbre page on how break-in a new set of strings. Their breaking-in advice was for the Timbre, but it worked fine for the Amber, which appears to be a closely related string, and I would imagine it would work with other synthetics if you need to show them who's boss.
I did the break-in thing they say to do, but I must not have done it right. They're still new-sounding, and seem to not like to stay in tune.
Every autumn, many of my friends refer me problems with tone and response even if they don’t change their string combo (regardless the string brand they play). I myself have noticed the same, humidity changes may affect both, tone as well as response. There are dozens of various tiny causes and factors that may be involved and their effect may be combined and cumulated. I am no able to mention all of them, so just randomly, what comes to my mind now.
I love it when you post, Bohdan!
Mr. Warchal, would you say that as the weather changes, the instrument would need some adjusting? I was thinking of taking it to my luthier and having the soundpost and possibly my bridge checked.
@Craig: We have already started Timbre viola development. However, there is no reason to hurry, we will not release it until it meets all our requirements.
Great! I look forward to the Timbre for viola. I've loved all of your offerings that I've tried so far:
Mr.Warchal and Trevor Jennings thank you for your responses.
Mr. Warchal, are you finding that a bridge should be re-cut for the use of the steel A strings? The bridge groove is a bit large for my Avantgarde A, and my luthier recommended modifying the nut as well if I was going to be using it over the long term.
Ms. Leong, I am still learning English, so sometimes I am not sure. By re-cutting you mean making new grooves into existing one (remodeling) or making complete new bridge?
Thanks Mr. Warchal. Informative as always.
Grain of salt time... retired, adult beginner with just north of 7 months of violin experience reporting.
Did anyone compare the regular set with synthetic A versus the metal A?
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Bohdan, thanks for that advice. I'm not using the protectors on either the A or E. I have a permanent protector (very tiny) glued to the bridge for the E, though.
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