Invitation to purchase Bakers rosin. Should I? Worth it? Which formulation?
I received an email this morning from Bakers offering me an opportunity to purchase up to two cakes of Bakers Rosin. I have 48 hours to respond. I barely recall signing up on the waiting list years ago. I currently use Oliv Evah and Obligato strings. My rosin cake is four years old and appears to be hardly worn. I need to apply Rosin maybe every week or so. I play (practice) 2-3 hours a day.
From the email: Because our production is limited, and in hopes to get rosin to everyone waiting, we restrict member orders to a maximum of two units per member, per season.
This can be one of each Baker's blend (Baker's Original and Baker's Vuillaume Citron), one of either, or two of either blend.
3. Baker’s Rosin currently sells for $24.50 USD per unit.
The total cost including shipping within the U.S. are; 1 unit: $29.90 USD or 2 units: $54.90 USD.”
First and foremost - make absolutely sure the email is from Bakers! Contact them directly, not via links in emails or elsewhere.
If it's legit then just remember you can scalp it.
Trevor. I agree that one needs to be vigilant about spam. The email comes from a email@example.com address which matches the address given on the website. The way to complete the order is to reply to the email and they will invoice once the order is ready to ship. They only take PayPal which I think helps with the security of the offer.
I've bought from them before. I like the regular formulation a lot. The other one (the Vuillaume-derived one), I did not like.
I'm new to Baker's rosin but I'm grateful to have finally discovered what I've been missing out on all these years
24 dollars seems very cheap for something so exclusive
I have used it before and liked it a lot (regular). Sadly they will no longer ship outside of the US.
paypal offers a certain amount of buyer protection against fraud, I got a rebate from paypal on a purchase from India that never came.
"24 dollars seems very cheap for something so exclusive"
"24 dollars seems very cheap for something so exclusive." P.T. Barnum.
You could just get it, and if you don't like it swap it over to Bo. :-) Or to me, and I could add it to my growing collection. (Collecting rosins seems to be much more affordable than collecting fine violins or bows, lol!)
I love rosin threads.
If someone could guarantee their product wouldn't shatter when it hit the floor, that would be the colophony for me (I'll be using that word a lot from now on). Apparently the technology does exist but of course...
It's worth noting that if a cake of rosin is dropped and breaks cleanly, into two pieces for example, then an effective and permanent repair can be done with super glue. Been there, done it.
Is it too difficult to melt rosin and reform it?
not if you're willing to burn the house down!!
You can easily melt and reform rosin. The lowest setting on your smoothtop (low or 2) will nelt it. Do this in a small steel measuring cup. Then pour into one of the wells of a silicone mini cupcake tray and cool overnight. In the morning you can peel the tray away and reaffix your rosin to the cloth with mounting tape or a touch of your steam iron. Your rosin will work the same as before. My mini cupcake mold is heart shaped. The rosins I have recovered I call "rosins of love," a term inspired partly by "violins of hope".
In view of Paul's qualifications I think we can safely take on board the method he describes. At the least, we can guess what he gets up to in his uni chemistry department when no-one's looking ;)
I have melted and reformed a number of broken rosin cakes.
You can create your own blends!
Regarding Baker's rosin. I would recommend the original blend. I purchased Baker's rosin on two occasions and used it for both violin and cello at the time.
Thanks Trevor, but "Rosins of Love" is strictly a home project. :)
I actually really like the metal tin that Baker's comes in. It does mean that you can drop the tin without the rosin shattering.
Follow up - I ordered one of each type. The cost was less than the $65 I spent two weeks ago for Wittner pegs that I installed myself and that have transformed my violin into something that I can easily tune. My sixty year old hands of (someone who has done quite a bit of manual chores over the years) needed some help there.
A very famous bow maker who relies on the Andrea Solo told me that the Baker red variety offered a very “organic” sound. (This was my rosin on a bow he made and had just repaired.). I do like it, but don’t have a strong, permanent preference vs Solo, Leatherwood, or some others. If you have the option of getting some, though, you should jump on it. You might like it a lot.
That "invitation only" is such brilliant marketing. I was so excited when I received the email, couldn't resist ordering. But when I tried it.... it's a pretty standard light rosin, no better or worse than Colophane or Salchow light or Vienna's Best or any one of many quality brands.
I was going to write a para about how pretentious it all was, then decided I wouldn't rock the boat!
Well since there are many thousands of different brands of India Pale Ale, I guess having a few dozen different rosins isn't so bad.
Of course all the rosins I've got are more or less the same price, so they will probably all be the same rosin. One can also make the mistake of buying a dozen $100 ukuleles hoping one of them will be a stand-out, but they never are (unless they have a certain age and you got lucky). I haven't plucked up the courage to buy a really expensive rosin yet, although I know it's value for money, as it takes an eon to run out.
Value for money... Not so sure. Since it so strongly depends on your violin plus bow plus individual preference, it may well be that a cheap rosin would do a better for you than an expensive onr. And there isn't any standardized parameter that would allow comparison or pre-purchase orientation, like "stickiness" / "hardness" / melting point or whatever...
"Melting", by the way... One cake of rosin broke into two. I only shortly had to heat the broken surfaces with a lighter and so could it together. A short lighter finnishing over the remaining groove, and it was an invisible repair. Rosin tends to burn, but not that easily...
Who cares how well the rosin works? Flashing an "invitation only" rosin will impress the heck out of people, and intimidate your competitors, kinda like showing up for an orchestra audition with a Strad. ;-)
That's true. ;-)
I play cello and I've used Baker's rosin for about four years. It works fine, but I've never had any interest in comparing rosins, so I can't say how it might stack up against others.
I've switched to the Baker's original about 6 years ago and have never looked back. Before that, I tried every rosin on offer, less the newer offerings since they were not out at the time. The Baker's IMHO is the nes plus ultra of rosins and also guaranteed not to be older than 15 days since its manufacture. I and do not intend to experiment any further with rosins as I'm thrilled with its qualities. It comes with a paper insert inside the metal container that if you break it you put it in there and microwave it for a few seconds and this restored it. It might not look pretty, but it gets the job done.