Photos of your shoulder pad
Greetings from Greece! Can you help me with some photos of your shoulder pad? I need some ideas to fit my shoulder pad without rubber bands. I quit my shoulder rest and i feel more liberated and freedom but i need something more secure than rubber band. I appreciate your help.
This is my custom made shoulder pad
A microsuction material like this: "AirStick White Microsuction Tape By Sewell, 0.8mm, 250mmx300mm Sheet" that is available from Amazon.com provides for decent suction to the violin back.
Microsuction backing is also used on the Acoustagrip shoulder rest now sold by many dealers. I now use the Acoustagrip for violin and viola playing (same one for both instruments). I learned of it from a music colleague who uses it on his $150,000 Enrico Rocca violin, so I would not worry about damage to the instrument.
Thank you Andrew! I bought acoustagrip but it didn't fit me i find it too soft. Microsuction backing of acoustagrip didn't work because my violin need varnish- polish restoration and its back is not like "glass" and the acoustagrip falls all the time. But its an excellent product if you have your back of your violin polished.
Have you tried tucking the pad under your shirt, or under the jacket if you're performing?
Dimitris, your custom shoulder pad is so much like a "Poehland" rest that I can't help thinking that you might as well just get a Poehland. Still, I think there are much better solutions. And I've tried micro suction shoulder rests, and while effective, they were affecting my varnish is an unacceptable way. I'll try to overcome the need for a photo hosting website that violinist.com requires and post my suggestions, but honestly, I think you should just post your question on maestronet.com where photo posting is so much easier and you'll get the photo responses you're looking for. I'm sure that Laurie will be annoyed by my saying that, and might even take my post down, but that's JMHO.
Shoulder pad? Two words:
I tried the pad under my shirt but it is less secure and moving while i change positions. I have sloppy shoulders and my collarbone is above my shoulder. I manage without a pad or shoulder rest to go up and down to fingerboard but without pad vibrato is still difficult
What's wrong with the rubber band? Is the pad moving around?
Maybe you could fix the rubber band (or better some elastic band/cord from a fabric shop) to the pad with a few stitches. It may stabilize the whole thing.
Erik, exactly with some changes of the left hand i feel movement under my violin.
You may want to look into the "play-on-air" pads.
I believe the play on air pads are too big and i read not so good reviews for them.
There is not shoulder rest with minimum height 2 cm ? Or less... Ray Chen has a custom shoulder rest with rubber cement. But i have not found any detailed photo with him and his shoulder rest
Ray Chen's shoulder rest is a prototype by his friend, and they unfortunately have not brought it to market yet.
I will try to raise my chinrest as well... unfortunately here our violin shops have not stock in chinrests to try them all... in example high chinrests doesn't exists here... only available for online purchases. I would like to try SAS 2,4 cm or 2,8 but a purchase from net is risky
I use a shoulder rest that is about 2 cm from my viola at its lowest point. It's a Mach One shoulder rest retrofitted with Everest feet so that it can be adjusted much lower.
I had the pirastro korfker rest which was at its lowest point about 2 cm... but the edges were much higher and bring the violin to a fixed tilt.
My first violin teacher told my parents to buy a kitchen sponge. Cheapest option. It tended to move around, whatever you did with the elastic bands. I think my mother eventually made one with a cloth cover and holes in the corners, which was better. When we had funds to get a shoulder rest that seemed like an upgrade. The best and best-funded players at school had fancy shoulder rests, covered strings instead of bare gut, and bow and violin and case from Hills in Bond Street.
What somebody can do if he has sloppy shoulders like me? Is it possible to learn play restless or padless and do all the various vibrato at this age? I am 37 old dog :P
"Is it possible to learn play restless or padless and do all the various vibrato at this age? I am 37 old dog :P "
I'm able to play both ways, with and without SR in a relaxed manner, without any technical problems more than anybody would have in his 3rd year of learning. Especially shifting isn't an issue, neither downwards nor upwards. Vibrato also works, although this could be definitely improved overall. No, I'm not playing great, mediocre at it's best on a low intermediate level.
... in case you wonder why I do not use the Kreddle anymore? For my taste the contact plane for the jaw is a little bit small and hinders flexibility while playing - in my special case. And it doesnt really matter anymore to me, as long as the CR isn't especially high or a centered model. And on baroque instruments I can play completely without, so what..?
I bought Kreddle and i don't use it anymore for the same reason. The contact plane is too little... i have a collection of chinrests... Now i add cork to some of them just to increase the height.
I had an idea today... i have the gelrest micro but it is too thin only 9mm. I like the idea of Andrew with microsuction tape of 8mm, so i bought this ( https://www.materialsampleshop.com/products/micro-suction-tape ) from Denmark .I hope this tape is the same with Microsuction tape by Sewell. Sewell tape is only available to US stores with increased shipping costs.
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