I just found out something recently ever since I started playing without a mute.
I'm playing GEE, DFF.
When playing near the fingerboard, sound is relatively clear
When playing middle of bridge, sounds like cat scratching
When playing near the bridge, sounds like cat dying
1) no finger near other strings
2) remove all rosin left on the strings
3) ensure that elbow is at correct angle when playing
4) tried another bow and had the same issue
Does anyone have a clue as to what is the issue? Thank you!
You're not really near the fingerboard when you think you are. You're basically in the middle. And I'm not sure why you would ever want to play that close to (nearly ON) the bridge. Keep it in the middle for now, which is what you think is near the fingerboard. :-)
Maybe put the mute back on.
You're discovering the bowing "sweet spots".
Bad technique, basically. You can't just expect to rub the bow on the strings and make it sound right; you have to find the right speed and pressure for the place on the string, that string, that note.
Have you thought of doing animal impressions?
@Bruce, yeah I did that after my mother screamed, "it's me or the violin"
hi Caleb, the closer you are to the bridge, the more pressure you have to apply, if you bow speed remains the same. this is why you are loosing your sound near the bridge. you don't press enough.
What Jean said. Playing near the bridge with no pressure is a bowing technique called ponticello. it's used for a creepy effect.
I think a mute, while deadening the volume, also tends to make a sweeter sound because it cuts out the scratch. I think that maybe your ears might be accustomed to the sweeter muted sound and then when you take it off and start bowing near the bridge for forte your ears pick up the scratch. This scratch sounds good to me in a way becaise it ttells me I am playing louder when need be. It also takes a lot more effort for me to play loudly.
To be serious as opposed to my first comment:
by the way Caleb, this is all explained in detail in the book Basics that we talked about in your other thread.
Dude, just press harder. Keep the bow speed the same. Just press like 35% harder all of the time and almost everything will improve.
Also, you really should consider releasing your right trapezius muscle.
You might want to go easy on the rosin too. We don’t know how much you use, but if you rosin too much that won’t help with the scratchiness. I don’t think I apply rosin to my bow even once a week, and that is practicing on average 1-2hrs per day. Other people rosin every time they pick up their bow. Every one is different when it come to rosin and there is no single formula that works for all, but consider the possibility.
Stroke or massage the string rather than just rub it?
You've been advised well above.
@Bruce, Roger, Julie, Adrian, Erik, I truly appreciate all your advice and I would definitely put your wonderful suggestions to practice.
Good to hear. Of course your teacher is right.
Of the course the violin is sqeaky. That's why I practice piano now instead of violin.
If the bow slid a bit, that means contact point changed (if involuntary because of the direction of the bow and it's weak grab on the string). The change in contact point would necessitate modifications in terms of weight applied and speed, the lack of which will cause an aberrant tone. So it is all related, it's not just about the bow not being straight per se. There are interesting questions here:
I don't over analyze it. I try to remember the string positions where things didn't squeak. Then I repeat the process. I use enough pressure to hear the tone well.I try to play with a straight bow in the middle of the open area. Things just seem to happen naturally after awhile. I still need to remain attentive.
Ever since I replaced my rosin with WD-40, the squeaks went away.
Madeye, that's great! You've killed two birds with one stone!
The natural motion of any single joint (elbow or shoulder) will cause the hand to move in a circle. So in bowing we must combine the motions of a number of joints to move our hand in a straight line.
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