Warm string set advice?
Hi. I'm thinking of trying some new strings for my yamaha beginner violin. I'm currently learning a corelli Op. 5 No. VI allegro, and perfectioning vibrato and 3rd position.
I suffer from migraines, and I always play with an earplug on my left ear, which makes me able to play the instrument. Still, a very shrill violin sound always makes me end with a huge headache which lasts for a couple of days.
So far, I've tried 2 sets: D'addario Preludes, which came with my violin. I hated them, because they were extremely bright, loud and shrill. Then, I switched to Dominants, which I like (and mostly stand), which really improved when I paired them with a "wondertone solo E".
So, I'd like to try a new set of strings, which is not very bright. I've read that Obligatos and Violinos are an option. Any reviews on these sets? Any other suggestion among other brands?
Thank you very much!
When reading your post, I was thinking of sujesting either the Violino or the Corelli Crystal. The latter, was reformulated recently, and I have no experience with the new formula (labeled "new crystal" ) .
Moving the soundpost a little further from the bridge foot will mellow the sound.
And I would also recommend to do a chinrest hunt. A heavier chinrest and a different clamping and position can soften the sound. And in your case with your migraines, a different jaw and ear position may ease much of your discomfort.
Paristro's Aricores, definitely, with maybe their No.1 E.
Have you tried viola?
Miguel, the main reason I suggested a visit to a luthier, is that a different set up could address the issue on the long run (as Andrew said, the soundpost can make a real difference, sometimes like playing a different instrument in my opinion), and if you really want a softer warmer sound, it would be easier and more "permanent" than chasing different string brands (which could prove rather expensive, judging from what I've done in the past :) )
Eudoxa. Unless you have the patience to adjust to plain gut for the D and A.
Why are you on your third teacher? Just curious.
Oh, and a better violin, a vibrational separating chinrest like the Menuhin shoulderest can help headaches. The authentic shoulder rests aren’t sold any more but Shar has a similar nobrand. Personally, I have the choice to play with or without a shoulder rest but find my headaches are less bothered when I do play with one. (It’s not positional. I developed a headache related health condition.)
Assuming you get payed for being a lawyer, why would you want to make all this effort and only spend $400 on a violin, in my experience you don't start getting into decent sounding violins till you pay $1000 or more, many people can't afford that, I understand, but you???
Maybe the shrillness, if its still there after having put on the Dominants, is due to your violin. Have you tried playing better quality violins?
Well, I've only played this violin and a €10,000 one that a music major I know lent me for 10 minutes. The difference was abysmal, even when I played it afraid of damaging it by hitting it or letting it slide. Really, both
Miguel, in a way I meant to say that if the shrillness is still there after changing strings (you said you liked the Dominants but you didn't mention if there was still shrillness to the sound) and having a knowledgeable luthier optimize it for you, then perhaps it's the choice of violin. This has been stated here by experienced players and luthiers on several occasions (I'm not qualified to give an experience based opinion)
Of course I understood that way the viola suggestion. I spoke about a new clef as a humorous point. I really think I like more the violin, and, as long as I can pstand it, I think I'll stick with it.
The problem with some of the budget warm student string sets is that they also are more susceptible to dull the sound, making it less desirable to play also. If you're experiencing that, and the higher quality warmer strong sets are too bright or brash, then it isn't a string problem.
That's a good list, but would you really describe Vision Titanium Orchestra as "low" tension?
Adrian,yes the titanium solo orchestra version is less tension than dominants, 9.9lbs for g & d, 11.9 for a, and e is 17.6lbs although they are are a focused and thinner diameter string than dominants. The regular titanium solo version has a higher tension and a hair thicker diameter than dominants (except dominant aluminum d which is very low tension and very thick)
Hi Thomas, how did you measure diameter?
Wow! What an exahustive list,
My pleasure, Miguel. Preludes are medium tension and diameter, as are wondertone solos in the slightly higher tension in the medium category. Preludes are metal core however, so the response is different than synthetics. If you've tried both, you'll know what I mean.
I only have tried the Obligato G, but I quite often use it in combination with Evahs on my own Italian fiddle; I do find them to be very warm.
Infeld Reds are good, but they are more like a slightly warmer Dominant on the spectrum. I find Obligato to lean more toward the extreme warmth range of things.
I bought a set of Obligatos a while ago and changed to them from my Evahs. The first thing I noticed was that the Obligatos have more "texture" than Evahs. It's hard to explain but it's like comparing EPs to silk and Obligatos to wool.
I would have compared Obligatos to velvet rather than wool!
Miguel, anytime is a good time to switch to a better instrument providing budget allows, especially if you're happy about playing the violin but feel there is something lacking. Of course practice and technique is a must.
I actually find that Infeld Reds, on different instruments, have a slightly less full and more focused sound than Dominants.
Bad comparison, yeah. My bad.
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