Can this be called vibrato?
Yesterday, I was fooling around with my violin by making weird sounds when I decided to hear what kind of sound I would get if I pressed my finger down and pulled it back up again and again very quickly. It sounded somewhat like vibrato. Can this be called vibrato as it is making sounds similar to it? Perhaps even the same but my bad intonation is to blame? Please try it on your own violins and tell me if it counts.
Violetta, that sounds more like a trill than vibrato, if I am understanding your description properly.
In its most general definition, vibrato is a rapid, continuous and relatively small variation of the frequency of a note. This can be accomplished by varying the pressure of the finger on a string by moving the finger up and down without letting it loose contact with the string.
Violetta, what you are talking about is what might be called "loudness vibrato," which is typical of lower cost synthesizers (keyboards). The vibratos of "real instruments? and especially the bowed string instruments are caused by pitch variation and might be called "pitch vibrato." A proper vibrato will have sinusoidally varying frequencies of about 1/5 to 1/4 of a second and a pitch variation of about 1/6 of a semitone (i.e., about 1/72 of an octave)**. Wider vibratos, as frequently produced by singers (especially aging ones) are pretty unbearable )at least to me).
This "finger vibrato" is also a "timbre vibrato".
I agree with the above post. Steve, who produced a DVD 'Violin Secrets of the Masters' based on years of thinking about vibrato and the way it changed over the years and tended to become wider, used the phrase 'impulse vibrato' for this kind of vibrato, though it was not Steve's phrase, and it first appeared in print in Henry Roth's writing. Roth suggested it was typical of some very fine players, such as Nadien. Steve told me that having learned a regular mainly wrist vibrato from his teachers, he felt that when he returned to what some would call a vibrato mainly affecting timbre, with a big element of finger pressure, he was rediscovereding something he first discovered when very young, and which some of his teachers had trained him out of. So to your question, Violetta, is 'Can this be called vibrato as it is making sounds similar to it?' I would suggest a good answer might be, 'if you like the sound, don't let any tell you it is wrong.' Of course we have to be careful not to let vibrato intefere with intonation.
Violetta, there's a thing called the "gypsy trill", or "Tzigane trill".
Classic vibrato involves repeatedly going flat from your primary note. This is done by rolling the finger towards the scroll and then back up again several times per second (either through the action of the wrist, the elbow, the hand, or some combination of those). It's learned initially by doing it maybe 1x per second, and then increasing speed once you can.
Thank you for the amazing responses. I thought that what i asked was a silly question and was going to delete it but wow i had no idea that it's a thing. ??
After thinking about this some more let me add this: depending on the fullness of the flesh of your finger pads*, varying the pressure of the "sounding finger" on the strings will slightly change the pitch - more pressure will raise the pitch as sounding flesh moves toward the bridge. This will create a pitch vibrato effect as long as the finger remains in contact with the string.
Andrew Victor - I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the piano.
This discussion has been archived and is no longer accepting responses.