Another new violin string from Pirastro!
It's probably nice, but medium-high tension. Guess that's their niche, at this point.
Perpetual came out for cello about two years ago, and at least on the cello, is apparently a powerful, extremely responsive (i.e., requires a skillful player) string.
As always, I'll give it a test. I've been through the new string game so many times now, I don't have any particular expectations.
I think you make an extremely irresistible salesman Douglas...
What I find interesting is that it is listed under the synthetics, whereas the perpetual cello features a rope core and is under steel core strings....I am curious why they bear the same name...
Well, Hermes, the EP cello strings are steel, and the EP violin and viola strings are synthetic. Why can't it be the same with Perpetual? I think it's because cellists prefer steel strings and violinists prefer synthetic strings.
Ella, I knew that Obligato for cello are synthetic so I had never checked that before...
Yes, curious about price and as a violin mom, size as well.
It's only available in 4/4 size, as far as I know from the site. If you're wanting strings for your daughter, unless she's particularly advanced or something, most cheaper synthetics will do just fine.
Would be "cool" to try the G&D with the steel A and the medium platinum E string. It will most certainly wake up my G's high C wolf for sure, though. I will stick to gut for now, I think.
will these be louder than evah's
My daughter (7 yo) is not crazy advanced but she is very picky.
Perpetual seem to be the most expensive strings in the cello line of Pirastro. If they keep the "ranking" with the other models and coming with the expensive platinum E, it is to be expected that these will be the new "top" of the company
They skipped right over the viola offering.
They skipped right over the viola offering.
I don't know about the viola version. It might come out soon. Who knows?
Anybody in the world try these yet?
This set is available for pre-order at Shar right now, they don't know the arrival date yet. $107 per set.
At that price point, may as well stick to EP. Too bad. Best of luck to Pirastro.
This price tag is almost one third of my rent,half the cost of a car tyre change, a little less than a new and good violin case and approximately the same as a new bridge & soundpost (or at least one of them, depending the shop you visit)... I think I will pass. What I really cannot handle is that if a G or D string of a set priced that high fails, unravels, or breaks - which is something that can happen and it is perfectly normal- I am then dealing with a certain damage around 30$
The price in the UK for a $107 set is likely to be £107plus. Can't help wondering how long before the tone starts to deteriorate, as seems to be not unusual with some top-of-the-range synthetics after a relatively short time - unless perchance these new strings have solved that problem, in which case they could be a winner. Meanwhile, I'll keep going with my next-to-everlasting gut +/- steel E, and a set of inexpensive steel strings on my folk fiddle (and they don't sound at all bad).
At this point, I would imagine if Pirastro or Thomastik would release a $30 set -- it could be the greatest set in the world and people would dismiss it as strings for students and amateurs! Many people automatically equate more expensive to higher quality.
My guess is that a significant part of the budget to launch a new string is marketing and other business-related expenses. R&D might be only a fraction of the cost.
The string market is not different from other markets. The selling price is only marginally related to the production cost or the R&D costs. Price is set from expectations of how much the intended customers will be willing to pay. And if you are building an image of being a premium brand you will gravitate towards setting premium prices.....
If Perpetual strings can stay great perpetually, then $107 is nothing.
Absolutely! You should consider cost, not price. We don't know yet what the cost of these strings will be; we only know the price.
I think we may be misconstruing the underlying meaning of “perpetual”. Perhaps it refers not so much to the longevity of the strings, but rather to the ever gaping maw of desire violinists have for that perfect set of strings. “Perpetual” in this aspect has more to do with Sisyphus perpetually rolling that boulder up the hill to no avail, only to begin yet again and again...perpetually....
It would be nice if there is a money-back guarantee for trying out new strings.
I am interested in all of the new and so called better strings that come out but they are so expensive. If they offered a discount on the first time purchase of new stuff they would be more likely to entice me to buy a set.
Jeff, Warchal does exactly that. If you order direct from them the first set comes at a discount.
The motion of a violin string is so violent that it's hard to imagine that a complex, multi-layered synthetic could ever last more than a few weeks:
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