Chit chat during lessons
How much does your teacher chit chat with you during lessons about non-violin topics? Or if you are a teacher, how much do you chit chat with your students?
Another way of putting it, how much of the lesson is not a lesson :)
As a student, I try not to! Since I feel like the lesson time should be used for what it's for.
Just a little chit-chat. But I try not to say "like" too frequently.
I like chi-chatting with my teacher. As an amateur, I like to enjoy the process and “smell the roses”.
Sometimes I chit-chat with my teacher on non-music stuff, and often ask curiosity questions.
I chat with my teacher, who has become a dear friend over the years.
nowadays, because of life decisions I made, I have to scrimp and save and make sacrifices for lessons, so I like to make sure I get the most out of them, and that means little chit chat. Obviously, there's a little bit at the start and end when I'm setting up and putting away, but if I'm having an hours lesson and 15 mins are being spent in chatting, then there's a problem.
In my time chat was restricted to before the instrument (violin/cello) was taken out of its case and after it was put back in. Same applies to orchestral rehearsals today as far as I am concerned.
I find the best way of not wasting my violin lesson time is recoding and reviewing. My teacher gives me tons in each lesson. It's very easy for me to miss some details or nuances so reviewing lesson recording can avoid same issuea being told again and again, lesson after lesson.
A lesson is a meeting of minds, as well as notes.
I think it’s a matter of finding the Goldilocks zone, which will be somewhat different depending on the personalities of the teacher and student, and the evolving life circumstances of both parties. Outside of each teacher-student sweet spot I would say that too little chitchat comes across as cold, impersonal, and robotic, and too much gives the impression of lack of efficiency. One may need to alter the normal amount in specific circumstances, such as if the student is experiencing motivational problems, and the teacher needs to investigate the source.
Every student is so different, the amount I chit chat with them varies greatly. I tend to find that I chit chat with students who are there for that reason (a social one), and I tend to chat less with students who are serious about learning music or have a lot of questions.
Add to good insights given by Lieschen and Erik, I want to make two more points:
As a student, if I'm talking about something with my teacher (during lessons), it will almost certainly be violin-related. Comparisons of string brands are casual conversation topics for me.
I am one of those teachers who never seem to have enough lesson time so I try to teach as efficiently as I can. Having said that I do feel that I like to get to know my pupils personally aswell. Chatting about non-violin related things improves the teacher-pupil relationship and the more I know someone the more I know how to teach them. I have also noticed that some of my younger students (high school age) seem to need a grown up who is not their parent or school teacher to talk to. I even have the rule that what they tell me remains confidential. I am quite close to most of my pupils and that is one of the things I really love about teaching.
I let my teacher talk as much as he wants - his insights are valuable and always relevant to the content of the lesson.
Mindless chit chat, no. Chat that builds rapport, yes. Since we are both classical music fans there is always the, what did you listen to this week. He knows I work in the stock market, so we do discuss that (this week I explained the difference between stop loss and stop loss with limit). He is less than half my age (younger then my youngest child), so at times there is some, umm, fatherly discussions, as well as him trying to explain his generation.
My most revered violin teacher was Paul Stassevich and chit chatting was a part of the lesson. He told me many things which were not written down in books. Mostly were his experiences from real life in the concert world of the 1950s and 1960s. Also were anecdotes from his time at the Leopold Auer violin classes at St. Petersburg Conservatory. He was an accomplished pianist and he accompanied many of the other Auer students.
This is a debatable subject?
I chat on and off with my teacher throughout the lesson. Probably around 10 minutes total in my hour-long lesson. Keeps me from getting tense.
I think Yixi hit the nail on the head with this
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