Famous composers who didn't write violin concertos
Who are some composers that didn't write a violin concerto but you wish they had? One name that comes to my mind is George Gershwin.
Arvo Part and Aaron Copeland. I wish Barber and Beethoven had wrote a second violin concerto.
Mahler, Grieg, Borodin. But especially Mahler.
Brahms, Beethoven. Maybe Tchaikovsky?
Fritz Kreisler and John Williams
Brahms, Beethoven and Tchaikovsky all wrote violin concertos. Chopin is one good example.
Do you think a Chopin violin concerto would be dark sounding?
Sorry, I was being silly. Ravel is one of my favorites who didn't write a violin concerto. I second the desire to hear a Mahler concerto. Or, wait, Mozart! (I kid.)
Both Kreisler and Williams wrote violin concertos. Kreisler wrote two, both intentionally in the styles of other composers: one in the style of Paganini and the other in the style of Vivaldi. John Williams wrote his early in his career, before he became well known for his film scores, and the style is much more modernist than one typically expects from him.
I assume a Chopin concerto would have been very romantic and wistful sounding - perhaps in the key of F minor. Did Lizst write a concerto?
Erick Friedman told me that Gershwin was in the process of writing writing a violin concerto dedicated to Jascha Heifetz but he passed away before completing it. Wagner was another major composer who did not write a violin concerto.
Supposedly, when asked why he'd never written one, Ravel explained that Mendelssohn had already done it.
How about if Ravel had turned Bolero into a VC instead of an oboe concerto? Like or dislike?
Bolero? Hard to like unless you're auditioning a conductor.
Did any of "the five" write one? Borodin, Balakirev, Cui, Rimsky-Korsakov, or Moussorgsky? How about Berlioz?
Andrew - I believe Kreisler's Paganini concerto was an arrangement, not a composition. His Vivaldi concerto is lovely, but it would be nice to have a concerto by Kreisler in the style of Kreisler.
Alright, I am going to pick the lowest hanging fruit here...
I happen to love the Dvorak violin concerto although they seldom play it on our classical radio station. There are so many lesser known concertos out there who rarely get played such as Samuel Coleridge Taylor's, and instead it seems they chooose to play the same limited 8 to ten pieces to death. I can certainly understand the local orchestras and soloists being forced to choose the top well known concertos in order to fill the concert hall but I do wish the radio stations would give us a bit more variety.
Grieg, Rachmaninoff, Chopin, Berlioz, Ravel, Debussy, and Gershwin.
Heinrich Biber. He composed outstanding violin music (the “Rosary" sonatas, for example) but no concertos, presumably because he was a little too early for the concerto genre as we know it.
Schubert, Bruckner, Boulez, Webern(opposite of Mahler - short), Verdi, Smetana, Suk (came close with the Fantasy for Violin and Orchestra), Rimsky, Borodin, Sarasate.
Sarasate should had wrote a concerto. Lalo did it for him. Also Seurat. I
Rimsky has the concert fantasy. I'd say it counts as a concerto.
I'm glad Sarasate didn't write a concerto.
I remember hearing a violin concerto by Schubert on the radio and it sounded interesting to me.
The closest Richard Wagner seems to have come to composing a violin concerto (and that was very probably not at all close) was a piece called "Dreams" that he arranged for violin and orchestra, WWV 91b. The best of luck to anyone trying to track down the sheet music!
Has anyone mentioned Richard Strauss(of Ein Heldenleben/Don Juan fame)? He certainly knew what the violin can do. I am not aware of any VC by him.
Schmidt! And I definitely would love to have a dozen more Violin Concerts from Korngold...
Richard Strauss did write a violin concerto.
Actually Mahler did write a violin concerto. It's recorded by Vengerov and Boulez, but it's a hard to find record.
That is actually a fake.
The Mahler VC isn't on the Naxos and IMSLP databases (my usual first ports of call when doing a search).
Yeah, the Kriesler Concero ala Paganini is definitely an arrangement, of Paganini's Concerto #1, 1st movement. I got really excited there for a minute, thinking there existed out there a Kriesler Concerto in the Style of Paganini. I love his "In the Style Of" pieces, many of which are either better or more violinistic than the originals, and I would _love_ to see what he did imitating the style of Paganini, but he mostly imitated earlier composers. As far as I know. Kreisler didn't actually write anything "In the Style" of Paganini, though a bunch of stuff on the internet cites Preludium and Allegra as In the Style of Paganini, they mean Pugnami.
Perhaps we're ready to have a new discussion on non-famous, or otherwise obscure, composers who did write violin concertos? I think a couple of guidelines would be in order to keep some sort of control: a score must be publicly accessible (e.g. in IMSLP), and no known recordings.
"No known recordings" is a really tough one, because many extremely obscure pieces have at least one recording. Having no major-label recordings is a better standard.
I do a weekly "Forgotten Masterpiece Friday" post on my Facebook page, and the "no known recordings" standard would rule out 100% of the violin concertos that I've posted.
Back to Kreisler ... I said earlier it would be nice to have a concerto by Kreisler "in the style of Kreisler". We don't have that, but he did write something called Viennese Rhapsodic Fantasietta, which is sort of close.
I second Sarasate. It would probably be close to impossible, but it would sound amazing.
Can anyone confirm this is an actual Ysaye concerto?
Jeff: Barber and Beethoven between them?
Gabriel, from what I have read, this is probably truer of Schumann than of Dvorak. I've heard Schumann's cello concerto, it's not that bad, but I gather that Schumann's violin concerto really does come from his period of incapability.
Debussy, Fauré (wish he'd completed the one he started), Franck, Grieg come to mind
I for one love the Schumann violin concerto. In the 2012 edition of the Queen Elisabeth Competition, the first movement was even a compulsory part of the first round (with piano). I recently heard it live with orchestra, performed by Patricia Kopatchinskaja. Quite an evening!
John, I hadn't heard the Schumann but I just listened to Menuhin on youtube and it was interesting. Dvorak is too, but I prefer the cello concerto, and I am strongly inclined to prefer a work for violin! The Dvorak violin concerto is doubly lacking to me, 1) because it doesn't rank with other Romantic concertos, 2) because Dvorak wrote some pretty much perfect music, so it would be nice to have a great(er) violin concerto. Of course he was a violist so who knows why he only wrote concertos for violin and cello.
Dvorak also wrote a piano concerto, although it is rarely performed.
The score (not parts) of the Handel concerto is on IMSLP at
Thanks Trevor. There's also a performance by Trevor Pinnock and the English Concert (soloist unclear, maybe Simon Standage), which appears in a recording titled 'Handel: Complete Orchestral Recordings'.
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