Violins of M. C. Rijsemus
Is anyone familiar with violins of M. C. Rijsemus (Luthier from Maastricht, Netherlands)? Quality, price, tips?
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Wow what a golden tip! Thanks!
There's a single auction listing from Christie's:
Thank you Lydia, I passed through that link indeed, made me wonder how would a handmade violin be sold for such silly price!
Could be the condition or workmanship. It may sound better than expected, as violin prices do not correspond 100% to sound quality.
Not all handmade violins are good violins. Moreover, glancing around on the Internet suggests that he both "makes" and "re-makes" instruments -- i.e., regraduates existing instruments. It's possible that he finishes violins in the white that are factory/workshop-made, regraduates old instruments (or even regraduates new factory/workshop instruments), etc.
Very true, Lydia. When you say "regraduate", do you mean he fixes them up or rebuilds certain parts of it?
He buys violins then twiddles with the thicknesses of the plates, then claims he made them. Regraduation is a disease that needs to be eradicated IMHO.
It's a bad idea to buy violins, mess with the plates, and claim you've made them. It's okay to buy violins with some minor damage, repair them, and sell them.
To be honest, I don't think he does that, at least now! I had the chance to examine a couple of his violins, they look identical with wood, varnish and profile, also the violins of him I saw on the internet.
Regraduation is not a repair, it essentially destroys what the original maker intended, and creates something new, of no better value, the instrument is almost always worth more in original condition, regraduation adds nothing to the value and in most cases devalues the violin.
Makers tend to get better -- often substantially better -- over their course of their careers. A violin made early on is not necessarily worth what one made later is. (I own a contemporary violin, for instance, worth substantially less than the still-living maker's current work.)
3K euros violins aren't always student quality instruments. It may be so for new violins born in Cremona, but certainly not so for violins made else where in Europe.
"3K euros violins aren't always student quality instruments. It may be so for new violins born in Cremona, but certainly not so for violins made else where in Europe."
I believe Y Cheng is right in a second, unintended way. The prevalent thinking of violinists in the UK and our fellow (for the time being) EU countries seems rather different from the US and Asia. I know very few players who play contemporary violins of any rank, almost all good students being guided towards antique instruments from a relatively early age, with the result that the concept of matching a player with an instrument graded purely according to its retail price doesn't hold nearly as much force.
There is no shortage of decent violins that we need to be making any new ones, what is needed is reasonably priced competent restoration luthiers, and a renewed appreciation for history and antiques.
Guys you are straying from the main subject. Nice to read your thoughts but I need real information about real experience here. Thanks!
If its a regraduated production violin then I think its overpriced, If its an actual hand made by this maker it may be worth the price, but only if you can compare it to multiple other violins in a similar price range, as was pointed out this is not really an investment level violin, you're paying for the sound and the playability, not the name of the maker.
Just keeping the conversation warm until someone with real experience comes along! I recently noticed a similar situation in which an early violin by a still-active British maker was sold at auction for about £800. It looked fine in the photos but I didn't get to inspect it in the flesh. A London retailer currently advertises new violas (OK, there's more wood in a viola) by this maker at £6000. If you simply want a handmade violin that looks good then 3K might be a reasonable price to pay, but it's not necessarily a bargain.
He has a really nice workshop/shop. Several floors of an beautiful old building. I once rented a viola from his shop, but it was an old one and not built by him. He told me that it is almost not worth anymore to build violins (invested hours vers price). I did not play any of his instruments and would not have the expertise to judge anyway.
Thank you Eva! Finally a reaction into the point :)
My 1867 Asa White Maggini That I purchased from Roger Johnson, a dear old friend, was no doubt purchased in the white and re-made and re-graduated by Asa. It is a great fiddle and it was for that task that I bought it.
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