What are the first 5 concertos you learned

December 27, 2005 at 05:30 AM · Question: What are the first 5 concertos you learned? (and in what order)

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December 27, 2005 at 10:54 AM · Küchler

rieding b minor

vivaldi a minor (opus 3 no. 6)

nardini e minor

Bach a minor

December 27, 2005 at 11:20 AM · I mostly began concertos just this year.

Viotti 22--Didn't finish it, hated it.

Vivaldi Spring--sightreadable

Vivaldi Summer--was fun

Bach E major--a real booger to bring out its natural beauty

Mozart #3--began five days ago, was shocked at how much easier it is than Bach

That's all for me. I like sonatas better.

December 27, 2005 at 01:38 PM · Two seitz concertos, did them pretty fast

Vivaldi in a minor

la folia

Accolay

Bach in a minor

December 27, 2005 at 01:53 PM · (I'm not going to count the concerto movements in Suzuki.)

Vivaldi A minor

Mozart 3 in G major

Bach for 2 violins (first and second)

Bach in E major (without my teacher)

The Butterfly Lovers (Not learned completely yet. All these weird slides and types of portamento.)

December 27, 2005 at 02:18 PM · Vivaldi A minor

Bach Double

BAch for violin and oboe

Mozart 3

Bach 1

December 27, 2005 at 02:32 PM · Vivaldi in A

Vivaldi in G

Mozart 3

Bach in A Minor

Mozart 5

My teacher hates me.

December 27, 2005 at 02:47 PM · My first full concerto was Vivaldi A minor (I played the movements given in the Suzuki books of Seitz) Then I played the first movement of the Bach Double, then the Vivaldi G minor, The Bach A minor, Accolay, now I'm finishing up Mozart 3 and want to do either Mozart 5 or Bruch next.

December 27, 2005 at 03:11 PM · 1. Concerto No. 2, 3rd movement, Seitz

2. Concerto No. 5, 1st and 3rd movements, Seitz

3. Concerto in A minor, 1st, 2nd and 3rd movements, Vivaldi

4. Concerto for two violins, 1st movement

5. Concerto in G minor, Vivaldi

6. Concerto No. 1 in A minor, Bach

7. Concerto No. 5 in A major, Mozart - (I really like this one)

Well, I liked them all I suppose

I have done all the Suzuki Concertos except Mozart in D

Sorry, thats more than five

December 27, 2005 at 04:04 PM · 1. Vivaldi A minor

2. Bach A minor

3. Mozart 4

4. Mozart 5

5. Saint Saens 3

My teacher likes me :-)

December 27, 2005 at 07:03 PM · A bunch of Seitz and Vivaldi stuff...Suzuki

Bach A min, Bach Double

Viotti 22

De Beriot: Concerto No. 9 in A min

Wieniawski D min

Bruch G min

Mozart G Maj

Conus E min

My teacher says he's happy with me

How about your concertos, Scott 68?

December 27, 2005 at 05:00 PM · de Beriot wrote two concertos in A minor :-)~

We shall assume the popular #9!

December 27, 2005 at 06:41 PM · It feels like we're playing cards or something...

December 27, 2005 at 07:20 PM · Vivaldi A minor (suzuki)

Mendelssohn concerto (2nd movement only)

Haydn A major

Spohr 8

Viotti 22

Bertiot 9

December 27, 2005 at 08:00 PM · vivaldi spring

mozart 3

mozart 4

bruch

lalo

if you cound the chaconne that was first actually

(none are finished)

December 27, 2005 at 08:15 PM · darn-it, Bruch wrote 3 violin concertos, Lalo wrote 2 violin concertos...although I will assume that you're speaking of his Symphonie Espagnol!

December 27, 2005 at 08:38 PM · Haydn G Maj.

Kabalevsky.

Mozart 3.

Khachaturian.

Ravel/Tzigane. (does that count?)

December 27, 2005 at 08:44 PM · Let's see...

Seitz #3 or something....the second piece in Suzuki 4

Mozart #3

Kabalevsky

Bruch

Vieuxtemps #4

December 28, 2005 at 04:11 AM · 1. Suzuki stuff, like Seitz, Vivaldi, Bach

2. Bach a minor (still Suzuki, but still my first "real" concerto I think)

3. Mozart 5 (first 2 mvmts)

4. Bruch (performed with orchestra)

5. Mendelssohn (still working on)

December 27, 2005 at 11:06 PM · Suzuki stuff, seitz, etc.

Bach Concerto #1 in A.

Vivaldi Winter

Mozart #3

Bach Concerto #2 In E

December 27, 2005 at 11:16 PM · That's tough. I'm a teenager and I don't even remember things like that!

I do remember learning stuff like all five Seitz concertos, Accolay, Vivaldi's Four Seasons, Vivaldi a and g concertos, and Bach Concerto in a.

But certainly not in that order.

December 27, 2005 at 11:26 PM · Vivaldi A-

Bach Double

Bach A-

Bruch G-

Mendelssohn

I started out in Suzuki but skipped pieces.

December 28, 2005 at 01:45 AM · suzuki stuff which i won't list

haydn G

mozart 3

mozart 4

bruch g

December 28, 2005 at 01:48 AM · Vivaldi G minor op. 12 (I'm not sure on that opus number, but it's not Summer!)

Bach A minor

Mozart 5

Mendelssohn First Movt.

I'm afraid I've only really played 4, unless you count the one month on Bruch G minor, or the summer spent on Scene de Ballet by de Beriot.

December 28, 2005 at 03:01 AM · 1. Seitz (I don't remember which one)

2. Mozart No. 3

3. Bach Double Violin Concerto

4. Bruch No. 1 (still haven't finished the 3rd movement yet)

5. Accolay

December 28, 2005 at 03:14 AM · It's been a long time ago, but based on the ancient music I found at my moms...

Accolay

Bach a minor

Bach e major

Sarasate Zigeunerweisen

[my first teacher retired when I was 12 or 13]

Mozart #4 [high school, with 2nd teacher]

Mendelssohn

Bruch [last one in high school]

December 28, 2005 at 03:44 AM · Kuchler

Vivaldi a minor

Seitz (forget which)

Bach double

Haydn G Major

December 28, 2005 at 07:42 AM · The Seitz concertos in Suzuki

The Vivaldi in A and in G

The Accolay mvt. 1

December 28, 2005 at 08:16 AM · 1. Walton

2. ernst

3. schoenberg

4. rozsa

5. bartok 2

December 28, 2005 at 10:43 AM · 1. Millies D major

2. Reiding B minor

3. Vivaldi A minor

4. Bach A minor

5. Bach D minor Double

6. Vivaldi Spring

7. Vivaldi A minor Double

Now I'm doing Vivaldi Winter and hope to play Mozart 5 soon.

I think I may have missed some out, I can't actually remember playing the first 4 as I was only little.

December 28, 2005 at 04:04 PM · 1. Good ol' Vivaldi A Minor

2. Bach E Major

3. Mozart 5th (1st movement)

4. Bruch (1st movement)

5. Vieuxtemps (1st & 2nd movements)

December 29, 2005 at 02:58 AM · Which Vieuxtemps???? You people are killing me...pick one....1 - 7 (there is a partial 8th concerto...I'm sure you're not speaking of this one)

Which Ernst Willie? He wrote 2 :-)~

December 28, 2005 at 04:24 PM · Hi, Jonathan: Oooops. Vieuxtemps #4. And by the way, I'm sure you're familiar with the Heifetz parody of it on his master class video. Hilarious. I think he managed to perfectly imitate everything I do wrong (except that I don't wipe my nose while playing).

December 28, 2005 at 09:30 PM · How about the LAST 5 concertoes you're learned? Here are mine:

Sibelius (only about 3/4 of the 1st movement and all of 2nd movement)

Tchaikovsky

Wieniawski 2

Schumann (never finished the last movement)

Barber (1st and 2nd movements)

December 28, 2005 at 11:00 PM · Accolay

Bach double

Viotti No. 22

Bruch g minor

Mozart No. 5

December 28, 2005 at 11:23 PM · Accolay 1,2, or 3? hehe

December 28, 2005 at 11:25 PM · Why do certain people only learn parts of concertos? It seems like the equivilant of reading half of a novel.

December 28, 2005 at 11:59 PM · No, it's more like reading one book in a trilogy. Or how ever many there are.

December 29, 2005 at 12:08 AM · Could it be more like there was a certain part of a concerto that just happened to incorporate a technique the player was studying at that particular point?

December 29, 2005 at 01:21 AM · My first 5:

1. Shosty 1

2. Bartok 2

3. Sibelius

4. Beethoven

5. Paganini 1

just kidding!

December 29, 2005 at 02:46 AM · Oooo joke programs, me next!

Bazzini #1

Bazzini #2

Bazzini #3

Bazzini #4

Bazzini #5

Really though...thinking back to my very first five...sort of silly though, these were far before I started college

Seitz #3 I suppose, I hate that piece

Bach A minor

de Beriot #9

Haydn C major

Viotti #22 (dreadful...Ysaye's cadenza however kicks butt)

Those were my first 5!

December 29, 2005 at 04:56 AM · Hey...I liked Viotti 22. Was there something wrong with me?

December 29, 2005 at 04:57 AM · Jenna, I'm a fan too! Join the club...

December 29, 2005 at 07:05 AM · ...because that is what I wanted to do. With Sibelius, I just haven't finished it.

December 29, 2005 at 08:38 AM · Hm...for me,

Vivaldi in A minor

Bach Double Violin in D minor

Bach in E major

Mozart No. 3 in G

Mendelssohn in E minor

December 29, 2005 at 08:50 AM · well lets see how far back I can remember. not counting Suzuki...

Bruch

Wieniawski (I realize it's a jump, but I don't remember in between lol)

Mendolssohn

Barber

Lalo

Khatchaturian (currently)

December 29, 2005 at 09:12 AM · What do people have against the concerti in the Suzuki books? This is starting to annoy me...

the two Vivaldi concerti (A and G) aren't bad pieces. Of course...when you get to them in Suzuki you sound...like a student, but I don't see why they're totally disregarded.

The Bach concerto for 2 violins in D is, of course, fantastic. The first movement is so amazing...

There's also that Mozart Concerto in book 9 or 10 (I don't remember which one...) it's certainly a good concerto.

I just don't understand...it makes no sense to deny learning these pieces, they're GOOD pieces. I personally think that the Bach concerto is much better in terms of how well it is composed than the Bruch or many other Concerti...

December 29, 2005 at 09:39 AM · I think that the Suzuki concerti are perfectly good concerti. I can't speak for anyone else, but I have a thing against Vivaldi in A just because EVERYONE plays it in HS and MS, which most of the time ends up extremely butchered and not sounding pretty, and I'm just tired of hearing it every year for solo/ensemble contest.

And the Bach Double Violin is indeed fantastic. I love the first movement, but the third movement is even better.

December 29, 2005 at 02:31 PM · I'm excited to hear you both like the concerto #22! It's obvious you haven't heard the other 28 of them that sound the same! Viotti followed a formula for his composing the 29 concertos...this is one of those composers that requires someone unfamiliar with his other works to truly enjoy his later works :-)~

December 29, 2005 at 03:17 PM · Well, I'm on my first one and guess what it is?!

It is Vivaldi in A minor! I can understand how some of you lot may tire of hearing it, but I am really enjoying it. The Peters Edition comes with a play-along cd of a string orchestra, which is a good practice tool. Emily, I will try my best not to butcher it!

December 29, 2005 at 03:34 PM · I'm amazed that some of you seemed to have started with virtuoso-level material. How could this be??? When I used to show up at my lessons with those concertos under my arm, my teacher would go postal and froth at the mouth. "Maybe someday!" he would scream in his Finnish accent. "Now get out your Dont!!!" What a party-pooper.

December 29, 2005 at 04:56 PM · I have absolutely nothing against the Suzuki concerti...I just didn't feel like listing them all out...because frankly, those are probably almost everyone's first concerti

December 29, 2005 at 05:53 PM · Not counting ANYTHING in suzuki (cause I did em all except for the mozart concerti...saved for a later time)

-Vivaldi Spring (whole concerto)

-Bruch 1st & 3rd mvmt. of g min.

-Zigeunerweisen/Sarasate at Interlochen summer camp

-Mozart #5 (beautiful...but so extremely hard to pull off...)

-Introduction and Rondo Capricciosso

-Mendolssohn (Whole Concerto)

-Wieniawski #1 (3rd mvmt.)

-Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto (whole concerto)

-Shostakovich #1 being prepared for a competition in 2 years! (Current concerto) & the Sarasate dances: malaguena, romanza andaluza, & zapateado for a more recent recital coming up

Sounds like most of the repretoire that I have finished...hmm...Goals in the near future: (in the upcomming new year...either) ;D

-Brahms

-Beethoven

-Vieuxtemps 4 or 5

-Sibelius

-Paganini #1

Which one do u guys think I should do??? My friend who's played about all these concertos wants me to do Brahms cause she told me it was a blast....but i'm not as good as her. :/

December 29, 2005 at 06:21 PM · Patrick--

Conus. :)

December 29, 2005 at 07:13 PM · Vieuxtemps 5 is great fun, and a real technique builder. You need a good stretch to play some of the passages, but its a great piece. If I was just a little bit more proficient I would be able to play that darned development section!

December 29, 2005 at 08:53 PM · The first 5 I learned /properly/ -

Bach E Major

Bruch G Min

Tchaik

Wien 2

Silebius

(as someone who was pilfering the parts to the Brahms and Elgar from his Dad's music drawers from early teens)

December 29, 2005 at 10:52 PM · Sietz 5

Vivaldi A Minor

Mozart 3

Bach Double

(Back to Mozart 3)

Bruch 1

December 29, 2005 at 11:38 PM · (Excluding individual movements of Vivaldi, Bach, and pupil concertos such as Seitz, Viotti, &tc)

1. Bruch g-moll

2. Wieniawski 2

3. Bach e-dur

4. Mozart 3

5. Mozart 4

A lot of people I've met are tremendously confused by this (hehe, I guess I enjoy causing confusion to some degree) but I think a lot of it has to do with the fact a) the last three on the list resulted from a lot of stylistic aims and b) they the contrasted extremely romantic works I was working on otherwise.

Mozart 4 became something of a mantra for me.

December 30, 2005 at 04:24 AM · Amy, for a second I actually believed you.

Didn't Chang play Bartok when she was like 8 or something?

December 30, 2005 at 04:25 AM · Midori performed Sibelius at 6 and Bartok 2 at 7.

December 30, 2005 at 05:51 AM · Ah, Samantha's reason makes sense ^^

Anyway, if you discount the Suzuki concerti I learned...

Accolay

Mozart 3 1st movement

Mendelssohn (all)

O.o

that's only 3...and I've done so many non concerto pieces too...I'm sure I've done more...nope ~_~ and I want to work on Zigunerweisen or a Kreisler or something next so...I won't be learning any new concerti in the near future either ^__^

December 30, 2005 at 05:56 AM · andrew...i do not understand your post. conus? lol

Well I think I've decided to do the Sibelius...seeing that I am far behind Midori in the age category... ;D

December 30, 2005 at 10:59 AM · The only concertos I have ever played are

Bruch- Complete

Mendelssohn-1st and 3rd

Mozart No.5- complete

Sibelius- Complete

I would say play sibelis. You never understand it fully until you study the entire thing- and it is amazing.

December 30, 2005 at 12:09 PM · Greetings,

Vivaldi a minor,

Nardini e minor

Rode 7

De Beriot 9

Wieniawski 2

Mozart 4

I missed out on those concertos like Rieding and Accolay that Perlman recorded so beautifully. These days I find I find myself having to teach the Rieding to some students and have grown rather fond of it. Cute in its own way...

Personally I don't think the Bach cocnertos should be seen as beginner material and do not use them with studnents who have just 'done' Vivaldi (also difficult to play really well).

Cheers,

Buri

December 30, 2005 at 12:22 PM · wow wieniawski 2 after de beriot? Seems like an awkward transition...how did u do with that?

I wish I could have learn my first five violin conertos in this order:

Bruch #1

Mend. (forgot how to spell his name...) :(

Bach (E, A, or any concerto)

Mozart 3,4,5

Tchaikovsky

December 30, 2005 at 03:32 PM · Bruch no.1

mendelssohn in e minor

bach double

Glazunov

beethoven

glazunov's cadenza was kinda hard so i was stuck... didn't get thru the whole cadenza

December 30, 2005 at 03:34 PM · Wow. So many people on this thread have learned Tchaik and Sib in their first 5 minutes of studying violin! :) What happened to a progression with Lalo, Vieuxtemps, Wieniawski, Scottish Fantasy, Glazunov, Dvorak, etudes, etc to adequately prepare one's self for those concerti? Is there are a drug your mothers are taking to have ready-made violinists in utero?

December 30, 2005 at 04:05 PM ·

Yeah, embryo violinists! Maybe the kicking is actually their bow arm

December 30, 2005 at 04:11 PM · 1) Benjamin Godard op.35 v.c1 Concerte Romantique

2) Vieuxtemps 7

3) Paganini 6

4) Lipinski 4

5) Joachim 2 op.11

Joke, perhaps funny?

Serious:

1) Rieding

2 Bach in G? (here stopped my solocareer)

3 Bach double

4) 2th Bartok (second violin behind in an amteurorchestra)

5) Glass (second violin behind in an amteurorchestra)

Jonathan Frohnen you made a mistake. Lalo didn’t wrote 2 but 4 violinconcerto’s. Apart from ‘the’ (well known) Lalo violinconcerto Symfonie Espagnole, there is Lalo’s violinconcerto op.20 and op.29 Concerto Russe, recorded by Olivier Charlier for Chandos : Edouard Lalo violinconcerto in F major opus 20, (violin)Concerte Russe opus 29 by Olivier Charlier, Chandos Chan 9758

And the 4th violinconcerto is the piece of Lalo for violin and orchestra Fantasie Norvegienne recorded by Philippe Griffin: Faure violinconcerto, violinconcerto Lalo Fantasie Norvegienne (3 parts for violin and orchestra), Poeme from Canteloube by Philippe Graffin, Hyperion CDA 67294

On Dutch radio they play requests the last 4 days of the year. They played 2 requests from me. Yesterday first violinconcerto op.27 from E. von Dohnanyi. Tomorrow Lalo op.20 violinconcerto !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! on radio4 at 16.00 a.m.

A violinfriend who had sent (my) request they will play 6th Paganini and this morning they played 2th and 3th part of Benjamin Godard op.35 v.c. 1 Concerte Romantique.

So a lot of listeners were confronted with my obscurities.

Perhaps these violinconcerto’s will become more popular like Barber, Glass, Butterfly Lover of Chen Gang, Britten, Nielsen.

These names and concerto’s are more well known amongst violinists than forgotten names and concerto’s like Godard or Lipinski.

December 30, 2005 at 05:01 PM · I am aware of all of Lalo's works for violin and orchestra...among those works he wrote only TWO violin concertos, The Russian Concerto and the F Major concerto. The others mentioned are in fact not violin concertos...although they are quite lovely ;-) The concertos by Lipinski are unfortunately very boring...as a lover and researcher of 19th century violin music, the Lipinski works in general are quite disappointing.

December 30, 2005 at 04:40 PM · hahahahha Andrew :D

December 31, 2005 at 06:35 AM · I find that whenever I perform a big "whammy" concerto compared to a concerto in the range of Dvorak, Mozart, Bach, Wieniawski...I do much better...

i think because I mentally think that the big whammy concertos are harder and so I prepare for them more...i dunno tho.. =/

December 31, 2005 at 05:47 PM · What about the Bach double whammy...

December 31, 2005 at 07:40 PM · Damn do I feel inferior - I must have really taking my time:(

Rieding

Vivaldi A

somethin' Seitz

more Seitz

Accolay

Kreutzer 13? (either that or could have been 9)

oh wait, that's 6, and I still haven't got to the "Wieniawski-Vieuxtemps-Lalo-Glasunov-Dvorak" preparation scheme, of which Glasunov and Dvorak I never played and Lalo came in the wake of both tchaikovsky and Sibelius:)

IG

December 31, 2005 at 07:29 PM · Dick :)

December 31, 2005 at 07:42 PM · Probably Kreutzer #13...D major, kinda corny...call me and I'll whistle it for you

December 31, 2005 at 07:40 PM · Ouch:) It's a little over an hour to 2006 here in St.Pete. Have a good year everybody, I am off to drinking and re-thinking my concerto-learning tactics:)

IG

December 31, 2005 at 08:30 PM · Is Temirkanov doing the White Lights Winter Solstice thing again for New Year's?

December 31, 2005 at 08:48 PM · you forgot to add a "y" to "thing"!

December 31, 2005 at 08:46 PM · 1. Happy Fingers Concerto for Little Midgets #1

2. Happy Fingers Concerto for Overconfident Adolescents #10

3. Happy Fingers Badass Big Boy Concerto

5. Happy Fingers Concerto for Little Midgets #1 (again)

4. Happy Fingers Preparation for Tchaikovsky Concerto Concerto

December 31, 2005 at 10:03 PM · Andrew,

He is doing Dark Nights Winter Horror

IG

January 1, 2006 at 12:46 AM · Well Ilya... I haven't done any of those concertos. After Mendelssohn (of which I only learned the first movement up to the cadenza - for an audition) I didn't learn anything else until I did Prokofiev no2... talk about taking your time.

Some people here know like 20 of them.

January 1, 2006 at 07:10 PM · Welcome all, to insultafamoussolist.com.

January 2, 2006 at 02:23 AM · No one's insulting anyone...

If anything Ilya just shut up all the people who seemed to have learned Paganini when they were 2...

January 2, 2006 at 02:54 AM · No one is shutting anyone up...people learn at different rates and with someone like Ilya who is such a great success, I'd say his method of attack on repertoire was perfect.

January 2, 2006 at 04:20 AM · Let's see, I learned the Seitz Fifth Pupil's concerto early, but I'm not counting that one because I didn't really learn it that well and I didnt' start learning anything else until three years later. I did:

Rieding bm

Bruch gm

Mendelssohn

Lalo

Wieniawski dm

I also did Intro and Rondo Capriccioso in there, but that isn't a concerto (it felt like it at the time!) I'm only now getting to things like Tchaikovsky and beyond now though.

January 2, 2006 at 05:58 AM · lol Tchaikovsky and beyond? theres beyond tchai?

January 2, 2006 at 07:33 AM · Jonathan,

It is clear that there has been one-up-manship in this case, and I know alot of violinists who collect repertoire like trophies... Ilya is one of several violinists who have achieved a high standard in the art without having followed the common path to "success".

January 2, 2006 at 07:51 AM · Pieter,

I'm not sure I'm understanding...are you saying that "normal" concert artists don't have a gazillion concertos under their belts? I heard that when a young soloist starts out, he/she should have at least twenty concerti ready to play on a short notice. It makes sense to me that a future concert artist would show incredible talent at a young age, and literally eat up the repetuire, giving his/her teacher the chance to give him tons of pieces, not jumping around like so many late starters have to. Just a thought, possibly bad - I'm positive you know more about this than me and I am in no way challenging you or your opinion.

January 2, 2006 at 07:24 PM · Not counting the dreaded Seitz concerti, I did:

Mozart G Major

Bach a minor

Bruch g minor

Mendelssohn e minor

Sibelius d minor

I like my minor concerti don't I? Always knew I was a a bit twisted ;-P

January 2, 2006 at 07:48 PM · wow mendelssohn to sibelius, big jump there

January 2, 2006 at 11:27 PM · lol I didn't do them consecutively, there was a good 3 year gap there, my teacher decided it was best to lay off the big concerti for a while and tackle lots of unaccompanied Bach etc, good training for most styles of playing so I shan't moan!

January 3, 2006 at 05:05 AM · Jenna,

Contemporary teachers seem to like enforcing a sequence of concertos (like Ms. DeLay), and as a result many teachers do the same... many kids follow that sequence religiously and I don't know if that promotes individuality and takes into account the student's problems/assets. What I'm saying is that Ilya is an example of someone who has reached a certain standard of playing, who clearly didn't receive a typical, cookie cutter training which seems to be prevelant nowadays.

January 3, 2006 at 05:30 AM · Gotcha. That's intersting. Thanks!

January 3, 2006 at 06:53 AM · Does anyone else wonder why we all learn so many concertos? I mean, what really is the value of an orchestra player, or even chamber player, knowing Lalo, Wieniawski, and Vieuxtemps? Sure, they're very idiomatically written, and one can learn a lot about the instrument from playing them. But why learn them all? After all, they're not the greatest of music-- not to denigrate them, but you can hardly compare them to Beethoven's Sonatas. And anyway, most of us will rarely if ever get to perform these virtuoso concertos with orchestra. (One semester in to college, I've already had it up to here with piano reductions.)

I'm beginning to question the pedagogical value of focusing so heavily on concertos. Do we focus on them so heavily just because they're hard, and therefore we learn the instrument well by studying them?

My first five:

Seitz G

Seitz D

Vivaldi a

Vivaldi g

Bach double

January 3, 2006 at 07:38 AM · Jude, it is an interesting opinion that concertos aren't as musically valid as Beethoven sonatas... I must disagree.

January 3, 2006 at 11:03 AM · Vivaldi A minor

Bach Double

Haydn Gmajor

Mendlessohn Eminor first movement

Sibelius (a fool's attempt)

January 3, 2006 at 05:10 PM · Why isn't there any violintteacher who gives rarities to their pupils? Why this strange animalheardbehaviour of teaching the same pieces? Also later when professional violinist make a soloviolinconcertolist (most violinist will seldom play soloviolin but most of the time 1th or 2th violin in an professional orchestra or will become also teacher)there are often those same pieces on those similar lists.

Perhaps there is also an audience who is also interested in the not so well known violinconcerto's, which are not second ranked violinconcerto's, but unknown, because they have heard the well known popular violinconcerto's too often?

January 4, 2006 at 03:43 AM · People are lazy Bram...there are plenty of great concertos, they're not going to find you! You have to find them! I was fortunate to study with teachers who taught from the Airs Varies of de Beriot, great pieces...that's what got the ball rolling for me.

Even when I offer my rare repertoire collection to performers they rarely dive in...it's too easy to make money off of the standards...Performers know this, their managers seem to know it, and the executives certainly know this.

I admire performers like Nicholas Tavani and Jason Neukom who have asked for my help. Nicholas has shown an interest in performing the Allegro de Sonate, I have sent it to him, and I sincerely hope that it is programmed in to one of his recitals.

As well Jason will be playing a not so standard program of Devilish works for one of his graduate recitals.

January 4, 2006 at 04:25 AM · Bach Double, 1st and 2nd violin (first movement only)

Vivaldi A minor, G minor (learnt on my own)

Mendlessohn E minor (first movement only, and briefly)

Bach A minor (first movement)

Mozart #5 (first movement)

Hmm...should going back and learn all the other movements...that's a problem with "learning for exams"

January 4, 2006 at 08:38 AM · Vivaldi A minor

Vivaldi Four Seasons (Spring, Summer, Autumn)

Viotti 22 (1st mvt)

Bach E major

Mozart G major

Hmmm, what happened to Accolay and Seitz?

Although I don't agree one should play non-mainstream violin concerti just for the fact that they are rare, I wish recording artists would do CD's that would pair a war horse, standard concerto with one that is more obscure. From a consumer's view, I would not be buying a CD of an obscure artist recording obscure pieces by obscure composers when I visit my CD store. But I would be a bit adventurous if I see a CD of an artist I like performing a well-known concerto along with something I haven't heard of before. I think Maxim Vengerov's CD with the Sibelius and Nielson concerti is a good example (although I suppose one can protest again Nielson as being 'obscure'...).

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