New French Bow or Old French Bow?

December 27, 2005 at 04:30 AM · Hi everyone,

does anyone have any experiences with bows made by French maker Jean-Luc Tauziede?

And would you recommend to buy an old French bow (Bazin or Husson) or commission a new bow by a well-respected French maker?

Thanks for you thought!

Best,

-John

Replies

December 27, 2005 at 04:38 AM · dindn't you already have this thread recently?

December 27, 2005 at 09:48 AM · Gennady: No, I did not have this thread recently. I had a similar one half a year ago, but the question of this thread is sufficiently different to warrant its existence on this forum, I think.

Moreover, my previous question ended up in a discussion about the family-relations of Raffin, something which did not interest me that much.

December 27, 2005 at 04:22 PM · If you've never tried Raffin bows, you should.

Superb! (I have one in my collection which I love playing).

December 27, 2005 at 04:26 PM · Thanks, Gennady! I've never played a Raffin bow. How much would a new one (commissioned) cost approximately?

Would you say that Raffin is one of the foremost contemporary makers?

Best wishes,

-John

December 27, 2005 at 04:42 PM · Gen, what's in your collection?

December 27, 2005 at 04:48 PM · Ooo go for that loaner bow Sordsie!

December 27, 2005 at 04:51 PM · I would deffinitely say that Raffin is one of the foremost contemporary makers. It is too bad he is so busy writing and judging, for he makes fantastic bows. He does like to see the person and hear them playing when working on a commission. Gold Tortoise-shell (is what I have)is quite expensive, probably same as Thomachot (gold/tort. :)

December 27, 2005 at 07:55 PM · Gennady, thanks again. Very informative post.

Could I just ask whether you'd have any experience with Tauziede bows? (I think he studied with Raffin). And if so: what did you think?

Cheers

--John

December 27, 2005 at 09:16 PM · I have yet to try his bows :(

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As you probably know, I like to deal with Bigot LeCanu and G. Nehr. These guys are award winning makers that are making great bows.

Raffin & Thomachot are great enough that they are already collectables and are not cheap.

Another fellow from the Raffin shop who is making good bows is Artur Dubroca. His bows are very good too.

I know his work very well.

He has also gone solo like Bigot and Tauziede.

In my opinion Bigot along with Yannick & Gilles are leading the way in the New French School.

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BTW, Bazin covers a dynasty family of makers four of which gained recognition. Same with Husson dynasty, there were five that became known.

So Bazin & Husson is a bit vague.

December 27, 2005 at 10:32 PM · I can personally put in a word about Gilles Nehr. I have one of his bows (probably less than 4 months old) and play on it every day. It is a total delight, modeled after the grand French style with a higher ferrule and frog. It responds so beautifully. The craftsmanship can be compared to anyone.

www.gillesnehr.com

I believe in giving positive feedback when credit is due. I can also personally give a word for Bigot, whose work I have now tried twice. (Once only briefly). He makes an excellent bow, which might remind one of a fine Millant, and some might say (Gennady I'm sure will agree) Bigot makes an excellent stand-in Pecatte of the more masculine variety. Therefore, it is very playable and draws a beautiful tone. I recommend his octagonal bows.

December 27, 2005 at 11:19 PM · gennady sold me a Bigot and i love it

December 28, 2005 at 08:47 AM · Hi everyone,

Thanks for the responses.

Pieter --> how much would a newly commissioned Nehr go for? His webpage is not accessible at this time.

Best,

-John

December 29, 2005 at 05:34 PM · Pieter.

BTW, unless Bigot is making an octagonal copy of a Tourte, his bows are round & slightly triangular (like Peccatte) :)

December 29, 2005 at 06:15 PM · Looks like I have to check my sources.

December 29, 2005 at 07:00 PM · Trust me,

Sylvain is also my buddy.

December 30, 2005 at 02:18 AM · Gennady,

One thing that I hope you will learn in your time in America is that not every instance in which someone is not completely certain what they are talking about is a challenge to the other's knowledge.

I don't have any bowmakers as buddies and I don't care. What I was saying is that I need to check my sources, because it would seem that I am not correct.

December 30, 2005 at 02:28 AM · Pieter, if you are 20 something, that means I have been living in America since before you were born :)

My comment about knowing Sylvain as well as representing him, is just that.

It was my way of being subtle with you.

Perhaps it's a Russian thing...........

December 30, 2005 at 02:25 AM · I am 20 and therefore reasonably literate, and also have a command of logic, which enables me to deduce that you know Bigot, and that is why I never question you on such matters. I don't know why you all of a sudden think that I'm trying to be contrary.

December 30, 2005 at 03:06 AM · Pieter, what sounded interesting is that you said you tried his bows and then you said you have to check your sources?

I think my English is better than my Russian, so I concluded by reading your entry that you tried bows by Bigot...you liked his bows and you recommended his octagonal bows.

Hence my entry: "....unless Bigot is making an octagonal copy of a Tourte, his bows are round & slightly triangular (like Peccatte) :)

Anyway, it is not a big deal Pieter.

BTW, what's the word on Rosand?

December 30, 2005 at 02:58 AM · I still can't believe Rosand recorded the Egge concerto...

December 30, 2005 at 12:27 PM · Thanks, everyone, for the helpful responses.

Could I ask whether anyone has ever tried a bow by Matt Wehling (Gennady, perhaps?)? He seems pretty well-respected nowadays.

---John

December 30, 2005 at 06:10 PM · Gennady,

Of course it's no big deal. I'm hoping to see Rosand in the new year... they said they'd get back to me on that one.

January 3, 2008 at 08:00 PM · Hi,

Speaking of old French bow. What are other people's opinion about old French Workshop bows done in the master's shop, for example an old bow done by in the Charles N. Bazin shop. Do they acquire good investment value or really just a playing value, even if it comes with a Raffin certificate. Just wondering...

January 5, 2008 at 04:12 PM · I once tried a viola bow by Jean-Luc Tauziède that was in a Paris violin shop; it produced a nice sound on my instrument and artculated well. It had an unusual feature that I haven't seen since; a deep cutaway groove where the frog slides (hard to describe, but one of the octagonal sides was angled more deeply), I was told that this was a design feature giving strength although it gave a somewhat sharp-edged contact point with the thumb so I was wary that I would ever get used to the feel of it.

January 8, 2008 at 02:10 PM · For information, S BIGOT, JL TAUZIEDE, T. KOVACS, JB LEE (Second of the Concours du Meilleur Ouvrier de France 2008) etc. were trained in our workshop...

We require, in our formation, a work of quality and a respect of our know-how in the pure ancestral tradition of the Great Masters of Bowmaking.

January 8, 2008 at 05:00 PM · Just wanted to put in a word for Matt Wehling since Mr. Black brought him up. I have tried a handful of his bows and found several that were very enjoyable - one that really stood out. I think he is quite well-respected but I can't compare him to the French makers mentioned here as I have not seen their work.

January 8, 2008 at 11:05 PM · yes, I forgot to mention that as well. I have tried his bow, and liked it.

March 25, 2009 at 03:21 AM ·

I recently tried a Tauziede bow  here in Seattle ( at Gennady's) in Seattle, and it was really excellent.  Very articulate and strong  yet supple like an old bow. it pulled a big sound, and the balance made it feel very much like a part of your hand even though it was 61g. 

March 25, 2009 at 03:45 AM ·

Greetings,

I`ve recently compared a large number of old French bows and four by the maker Guillaume who seems veyr much in fashion her ein Japan. I found one Guillaume to be astonishingly good.  Its slender but creates the illusion of great density and strngth. Although light it draws a huge sound formn the instruemnt and has tremendous articulation. Most impressive. I guess i am going to buy it becaus eit is cheaper than getting married.

Cheers,

Buri

March 25, 2009 at 04:03 AM ·

Guillaume's  bows are good for  those who enjoy the style of Sartory bows.

The only thing is that he has many different grades of bows, workshop bows, Bernard bows and others. His personal bows are more expensive. At least that is how things are here in the US of A.

March 25, 2009 at 08:11 PM ·

Greetings,

his silver wound bow I like is around 7000 dollars.

Cheers,

Buri

March 25, 2009 at 08:20 PM ·

I have a Charles Buthod and also both a bow by Bernard & Jean-Jacques Millant, who used the Peccatte model, have owned them since mid-60's...They have held up famously, no repairs except bow grips and of course rehairings. Modern bowmakers are certainly doing some wonderful creations also, especially American bowmakers...lots of good works out there for sure

February 3, 2010 at 05:13 PM ·

Hi,I have just commissioned a bow to Bigot ,Gennady which model do yo advice?I saw the Pecatte model and Its very beautiful !!

February 3, 2010 at 05:57 PM ·

It all begins with the question of money...how much $ is in your budget?

February 5, 2010 at 10:51 PM ·

Hi Jose.does the g mean gay?

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