Bach Violin Concertos

December 3, 2005 at 09:01 PM · Do you consider Bach Violin Concerto No. 2 (E Major) standard repertoire?

Is it a good way to do that before hacking the Sonatas and Partitas before college?

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December 3, 2005 at 09:43 PM · Greetings,

both the Bach concertos are standard repertoire although Auer did not give them to his pupils because he felt they were 'inferior examples' of his work. Are they good preparation for the solo sonatas etc? Not particularly. Godd preparation for the solo sonatas would be scales and bowing etudes. You might even consider working through the cello suites first, a practice recomended by Szigeti.

Cheers,

Buri

December 4, 2005 at 04:21 AM · there's a lot involved in the sonatas and partitas. a bit more than in teh concertos. honestly, if you're at that level (ie working on the concerti) i really don't think the sonatas and partitas are much of a choice. it would be like me, im working on the g minor sonata, deciding to try the sibelius violin concerto next.

does this help? i don't want to sound mean...

December 4, 2005 at 07:05 AM · The texture of the concerti has little resemblance to the solo S & P's....however, the E-Major is a legit concerto and so rewarding to play..it has been the inspiration to take the positive side of the fence for so many students, and each movement is a thrill...whereas, the a minor is less fun...less soloistic and the quaint 3rd movt. bariolage treatment is more theoretical than the great music we expect from Bach...performance problems of the concerti are quite solvable whereas the S & P's are a lifelong immersion.

December 4, 2005 at 02:05 PM · They are good concerti and easier than the S&P. A good place to start loving Bach. For those who want to start with the cellos suites before doing the S&P, the Werner Icking archive on the web provides a transcription of these for FREE.

December 5, 2005 at 07:23 PM · I’ve always said that the Telemann Fantasias for solo violin are a great stepping stone to the Bach S&P’s

December 5, 2005 at 07:51 PM · Christina I agree, the Telemann Fantasias are true gems of the period and are not studied often enough. Certainly great stepping stones if learning to perform Baroque music well.

December 8, 2005 at 05:06 AM · Work on the Kreutzer double stop etudes very cleanly.

December 8, 2005 at 05:28 AM · Greetings,

this mean having a bath first, no?

Cheers,

Buri

December 8, 2005 at 08:31 AM · No dirty jokes here please.

December 8, 2005 at 11:23 PM · Greetings,

I am a dirty joke,

Cheers,

Burp

December 8, 2005 at 11:35 PM · bach violin concertos are many levels below the S&P both technically and musically. the only thing they really prepare you for is bach's architectural style of composing and to hear his harmonic sense.

the cello suites are greater preperatory than the concerti as is geminiani's solo sonata or biber's passicaglia. etude wise you're better off working with the kreutzer and rode studies than the bach concerti.

December 22, 2005 at 12:03 AM · Just play the easier movements of the sonatas and partitas first- the First two movements of the D Minor (Allemande and courente), the Allegro assai (final movement) from the c major sonata and the final movement of the E major (Gigue) are good places to start. After those, the preludio from the E major. Then the whole E major. when you've done that whole partita you have good grounding. Enjoy!

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