Hear Bruch #1 for Electric Guitar!
For those who haven't heard this, it's a real shocker. The entire Bruch Gm, transcribed for *very* electric guitar (fuzz tone)and played with orchestral accompaniment. The first movement is available to listen to on the site, if you dare. My reaction ranges between horror and admiration.
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I know; it's like watching a train wreck or something. I'll never understand why this guy transcribed it off the record instead of buying the music.
I noticed I can't edit the mistakes in my original post, so sorry for the typos.
Definately NOT for the strictly classical musician!...I have to say I really prefer it as originally intended.
"Recorded and Mastered at "The Bedside", "
The reason he got it from a record is that's the normal way for rock guitar players to learn music. Could be he doesn't read music or just wanted the exercise.
The Glazunov with electric guitar is just plain and downright awesome XD
Well, the problem is that he isn't a very good guitarist. Yngwie Malmsteen or someone like Michael Angelo could do a much better job of it. This guy, as technically proficient as he is (arpeggio sweeps are difficult on guitar), has little sense of nuance and doesn't know how to control his instrument in this context. I really didn't like it.
What's to like? >G<
I presented it as a curiosity.
Also goes to show you just how such a piece can inspire someone deeply enough to.....do......THAT to it!
Its.....horrible!
From Jim W. Miller
Posted on June 10, 2005 at 11:55 AM (MST)
>The reason he got it from a record is that's the normal way for rock guitar players to learn music. Could be he doesn't read music or just wanted the exercise.<
Well. he's selling his score on the website. His "sample" wouldn't load cuz he doesn't know how to use Acrobat (either!).
OMG, it's horrible! The violin has such a sweet sound and the electric guitar sounds like [shudder].
His guitar. Electric guitar can sound like whatever you want it to based on what processing you apply to the sound. Different animal, why bash it. Both are great in their own regard.
Malmsteen plays with an orchestra better.
Another good piece of classical music ruined by some idiot.
I just can't stop laughing...
The Tchaikovsky is like... a granny going to supermarket... totally speechless...
"Malmsteen plays with an orchestra better"
I agree!
Interesting recording. Wouldn't have been my first pick for a violin concerto to be adapted to guitar but it kind of works.........I think?
It works very well indeed- today I was able to clean my toilets with it!
D Kurganov,
I do too. If you are a violinist and have developed the left hand dexterity, then it definately is. But guitarists are not used to that kind of motion. The sweeps aren't very difficult in the piece he was playing.
Dude, I don't know what you guys are talking about! I thought it was awesome. I'm also a former
At the very end it starts to sound a little like Daniel Lanois, who could probably do a great job with this. I'd like to hear that.
Marty, metal is FULL of people interested in the classics. Where have you been the last 25 years? Back in the early 80s (and even late 70s if you count EVH), metal/hard rock guitarists started this neo-classical movement.
Edward Van Halen introduced two handed tapping, and Yngwie Malmsteen started doing harmonic minor scales and arpegios at light speed. All of them were inspired by Bach and Paganini mainly. A lot of electric guitar playing centered around that until the 90s, when guitar virtuosity of that kind lost its popularity and has never been able to get it back.
Yngwie Malmsteen has a CD with orchestra, it doesn't sound that bad. There are actually some great melodies.
To be honest, I am not impressed with this guy we're talking about (the Bruch). I used to be really big into the neo-classical metal and I was not impressed.
My ears!!!! My ears!!!!
I think I have scar tissue now thanks to the Bruch excerpt. Did anyone else think the Glazunov sounded like a long lost Queen track that never made it to an album? Maybe it was just me. Of course, Queen would have done it better.
Actually, the more I think about this, the more I think Daniel Lanois could do a better job with it than a violinist...
Well...hmm, I liked all the rest but the very beginning chords.
I like the orchestra, it sounds better than some of the orchestra's I've heard.
HORRIBLE
Tchaikovsky just turned in his grave!
I'm sad...
Peter
Haha good stuff he actually hit some good notes in the Tchaikovsky. The Bruch was loud and schalmzy but really I think it's like me trying to play Guns N' Roses or Motley Crue guitar parts on my violin. It just doesn't work out too well haha.
Is Alex Markov the one in the Art of the Violin who does the left hand pizz part in Paganini 24? What's his deal?
He is a very very fine violinist but not a great violinist!
That small section of playing in art of the violin was very flippant... it's like Vengerov on steroids, except Vengerov plays well in tune. I didn't know Markov doesn't live up to his hype.
Have you heard Uli Jon Roth play Vivaldi´s Four Seasons on Electric guitar?
He has an amazing guitar that covers every note from the lowest on a Cello to the highest on a volin without harmonics.
He plays so well and violinlike that it´s scary.
Do a CDnow search now! You won´t regret buying that record.
Alexander Markov is a GREAT violinist. Don't judge him based on a 10 second excerpt. I'm sure he could play circles around most of you.
He is a very fine violinist!
Sorry Marty I didn't mean to be insulting.
let he who is with perfect intonation cast the first stone (certainly not me)
I am saying he looked flippant in that excerpt. Everything else I know comes from opinions of other people, and so far I have only heard the opinion of Nate.
I never make my mind up until I hear him perform live.
metal heads are interested in Paganini 5 PERIOD haha
Come on guys.... How can you like this Bruch?
He manages to hit most notes, but there are college violinists that hit more notes..., and what about musicality? Frazing?
Still, it is a fun idea :)
Funny enough, when most play Paganini 5 it's only the sautille part. They skip the opening arpeggios.
That was terrible.
That was one of the worst things I have heard. It was interesting that someone did it, but it doesn't match.
For my next tune, I will be performing Liebeslied on the Hammond organ!
It worked for Jack Lalanne.
it sounded great, until th soloist came in
still trying to pick myself off the floor...
Before I played violin I played electric guitar and played the entire 1st mov of the beethoven on it because I loved it so much. I got to the third, and went out and bought a violin.
Tchaik, Bruch and Glazunov simultaneously roll in their graves...
The only wonderful reason about it is that it introduces stubborn, anti-music teenagers to the world of classical music aka *real* music.
Ditch the synths and play with a real orchestra, though (although few orchestras, I think, would accompany *that*......uh...."instrument".
To be fair, we're all musicians, so I see no reason to ditch someone elses ideas of expressing themselves, just because we are too narrow-minded to accept it. :-)
Haha I think that you have coined a wonderful phrase there - stubborn, anti-music teenagers! But what I want to know is, does playing concertos on an electric guitar make it 'cool'? Just imagine if Paganini had had a wha pedal...tee hee
I don't think we're being fair here. First off, I think that we must acknowledge that our guitarist has good technique (straying away from chords... playing melodies?!?! haha) and good taste in music :-P. Second, I think we're being a bit closed-minded. There are some great virtuoso guitarists out there who are just as talented in their fields as Perlman is in ours. As for the music, I don't think it's as horrific as everyone says. After listening to the Glazunov on electric guitar, then Glazunov by Oistrakh, I have to say the electric guitar gives it a twist that I don't think the violin provides (in a good way). Another thing, how many times have we heard synthesized toccata and fugue by Bach? It's just the same notes on a different instrument. Imagine if Beethoven lived today. I'm not so sure he'd be a classical composer as much as a punk rocker. Blasphemy? I'm not so sure. I'm up for intellectual discussion if you guys are.
And while we're on the topic of violin concertos by different instruments... how about the entire 3rd movement of Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto (orchestral and solo line) played on ...
ACCORDION?!?!?!?!
http://www.classicalarchives.com/artists/zubitsky_hl.html
Note: needs free membership, easy to do.
- Wenhao Sun
haha- that accordion playing tchaik is priceless!
Quote by Natasha Marsalli:
"Tchaik, Bruch and Glazunov simultaneously roll in their graves...
The only wonderful reason about it is that it introduces stubborn, anti-music teenagers to the world of classical music aka *real* music.
Ditch the synths and play with a real orchestra, though (although few orchestras, I think, would accompany *that*......uh...."instrument".
To be fair, we're all musicians, so I see no reason to ditch someone elses ideas of expressing themselves, just because we are too narrow-minded to accept it. :-)"
What are you talking about? How can you say you see no reason ditching someone else's form of expression when that is the thing that you just ripped up in your 3 opening lines?
I for one, loved it as a piece of entertainment. I wasn't especially touched by it. I was just laughing my butt off!
While we are on the topic (and since some have mentioned this particular piece), does anyone know of a site with some guy playing Paganini 5 (with arpeggios, I believe.....and a ridiculous 'candenza' riff at the end) on video? I saw it years ago and again, was laughing my butt off, harder than when listening to Bruch/Tchaik/Glazunov.
Please advise,
Thanks!
B
Yeah! I have it, it's Jason Becker playing it. I don't know where you can get it, but I have it, if you want it, you can email me at thegreatwenhao@hotmail.com
Jason Becker is one of the best to ever touch a guitar... sadly he is now almost completey paralyzed...
Thanks, Wenhao!
I will email you!
B
Here's something to make you all come to your senses and actually return to Earth. Have a listen to these!
http://www.debone.com/strdstrt.html
I like it!
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June 10, 2005 at 06:29 PM · WOW! Okay. I've seen (heard) it all now. I'm basically on the HORROR side of your reaction range; when he first came in, after the regular orchestra introduction, I went - No!! Surely, no! This has to be a joke. :-) Thanks for sharing!