June 6, 2004 at 05:12 AM · What are some concertos that are on the same level as the JS Bach Concerto in A minor!!

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June 6, 2004 at 05:30 AM · Hmm, possibly the Haydn G major? and Viotti 23.. I did that around there somewhere... Bach E major isn't much more difficult either.

June 6, 2004 at 01:13 PM · Vivaldi. Maybe you should play some sonatas. There are TONS of sonatas that are at that level. Schubert, for one. Or pieces with piano. The Boy Paganini is a great one, by Mollenhauer. If you are interested, I can send you a complete list of rep. that I have that is around that level of playing that I engage my students in for fun and performance.



June 6, 2004 at 08:54 PM · vivaldi a minor, the viotti is a little bit of a jump

June 6, 2004 at 10:36 PM · is accolay harder or just about the same?

June 6, 2004 at 11:11 PM · What about the Kreisler in the style of Vivaldi?

June 7, 2004 at 03:40 AM · Disagree about the Viv Am; it would be a backwards step, I think. How about Bach E maj?

June 7, 2004 at 03:55 AM · Greetings,

I concur with Sue. The Vivaldi is quite a big jump backwards. According to the ASTA grading list the two concertos mentioned above (Haydn and Viotti 23 ) are equivalent. They also add the Nardini e minorand Vivaldispring.

The pieces include:

Corelli Sonatas

Handel Sopnatas

Dvorak Sonatina

Elgar Salut d`amour

Kreisler Rondino on atheme of BeethovenMassenet Meditation, and Ten Have aLLGREO bRILLANT.

The Bach Emajor comes later, I think with good reason. It is a harder key (shouldn`t be really) and requires great control of the datche to phrase some rather repetitive material.

The Accolay is ranked considerably lower alongside Reiding , Seitz and Sitt . This level also includes the Vivaldi a minor.

By the way, both Galamian and Oistrakh were fond of the Vivaldi g minor and ther eis an extant Galmian edition. Personally I think it is a much nicer concerto and perhaps it is a little more difficult.



June 7, 2004 at 08:53 AM · I learned the Viotti 23 immediately after learning the Bach A Minor. The Nardini concerto would also be a good choice (there's a recording of it by Zukermann that I'm rather fond of), as would the Glazunov...after a few years.

June 7, 2004 at 02:10 PM · Ick! I hate Nardini. Vivaldi, Viotti, and Haydn are all much better pieces.

June 7, 2004 at 03:01 PM · What about Mozart's Violin Concerto in D, the Adelaide. Is this about the same level, lower or higher?

June 7, 2004 at 03:28 PM · I just performed The Boy Paganini not too long ago on a recital.

June 7, 2004 at 05:51 PM · The Bach Am (mvmts 1 and 2) and E (1st mvmt) are both routinely used on the AB Grade 8 syllabus, along with the Nardini, Brahms A Sonata, Franck etc. As for the Vivaldi Am, the Dvorak Sonatina and the Kreisler Rondino, I'd rate them at about the same level of difficulty (Grade 6). Salut d'Amour's a tricky fish - I'd say harder than the Dvorak, but a transposed/abridged version is on the current Grade 5 listing. Don't ask!

June 7, 2004 at 08:39 PM · hONESTLY, SINCE YOUR 14 AND ON THAT LEVEL...i THINK YOU SHOULD KKEP MOVING A LITTLE FASTER AND GO TO Viotti 23, then mabye Haydn c major then mozart 3 or 4. Thanks for telling me the pieces youve played though. If u havent, u should definetly finish the whole bach a minor, as the 2nd and 3 mvmts are more challenging musically (2) and surely technically (3). As for pieces Meditation by Massenet seems okay, but is difficult for someone one the bach a minor to play musically. Its beautiful, but very dramatic. The Bee By Francois Shubert is great. Show piece that is not difficult but u probably can play it.For the concerto, the ones ive listed above are ok....but I would really reccomend, just to keep moving, those and DeBeriot no. 7 or 9 and the Rode no.7

Have fun

June 9, 2004 at 08:19 PM · I would really recomend though the Rode no. 7

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