Does anyone know this violin concerto?

April 14, 2013 at 11:58 PM · Hi everyone,

The soundtrack of the following clip contains a fragment of a violin concerto. It starts at 2:27 and runs until 3:12 (then the music changes over to Beethoven's 7th). I like it very much and hopefully someone knows which concerto it is.

The music was played during the NBC live coverage of JFK's funeral, so it must have been written prior to 1963.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlPkamftArM

Thanks!

Replies (24)

April 15, 2013 at 12:05 AM · maybe you could give us the time during the video when the music starts?

April 15, 2013 at 05:41 AM · Starting about 2:28 I hear a violin solo with orchestra and cello prominant as well. It precedes the 2nd mvt. of Beethoven's 7th. It rings a bell but I can't quite put my finger on it.

April 15, 2013 at 08:49 AM · Its lovely but I don't recognize it at all. I'm guessing that its eastern european, but thats just a guess...

April 15, 2013 at 11:52 AM · It's familiar to me as well, but I also cannot place it. American composer, though, I'd be inclined to say.

April 15, 2013 at 12:00 PM · American because of the music or because of the event? I considered that too but the next piece was by beethoven...

Perhaps it just shows how jingoistic we have become after 9-11 - I mean (at least in my case) going through the assumption that they would restrict this to american composers. :p

April 15, 2013 at 12:20 PM · It could come from anywhere, and it's a really short excerpt. But I was inclined to guess American, too - not because of the context. After all, it was followed by Beethoven. But I could almost picture Samuel Barber writing it, though it's not from his violin concerto. In any context it sounds haunting.

April 15, 2013 at 12:46 PM · Bernstein maybe? It may not be from a concerto it could just as easily be an excerpt from a symphony. It is haunting though.

-M

April 15, 2013 at 01:41 PM · This is a tough one-- maybe one of the Joachim concertos? Sounds more European than American to me.

April 15, 2013 at 01:53 PM · Anyone like to go for Asian or australasian? Then I think we have it pretty much covered - I don't think its african...

April 16, 2013 at 01:14 AM ·

April 16, 2013 at 04:19 AM · I don't think it's the Pavane...?

April 16, 2013 at 06:35 PM · It sounds like an abbreviated, reduced version of Pavane - and that is definitely the Cleveland Orchestra/Szell recording of Beethoven 7 that follows.

April 16, 2013 at 08:54 PM · Did he write two pavanes? This does not sound like the one I know at all.

April 17, 2013 at 01:31 PM · One minute I think it's Berstein then maybe William Grant Still perhaps Howard Hanson...

April 18, 2013 at 08:30 PM · Thank you all for the suggestions posted so far. It's a tough one indeed.

I don't think it's an arrangement of Fauré's Pavane. It just sounds too different.

It may be Barber, Bernstein, Still or Hanson, but which work?

Any more suggestions?

April 19, 2013 at 05:33 AM · The first composer that I thought of on hearing it was David Diamond.

April 19, 2013 at 04:02 PM · @Lydia Leong it does sound very much like it could be from David Diamond's Romeo and Juliet.

April 20, 2013 at 08:36 AM · David Diamond is a good suggestion too, but it isn't Diamond's Romeo and Juliet ...

April 25, 2013 at 08:02 PM · It's Pavane by Robert Gauldin (not Pavane by Fauré)!!

http://www.amazon.com/forum/classical%20music/ref=cm_cd_tfp_ef_tft_tp?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2O5YQ79OVJBUQ&cdThread=Tx20MV1LRXM32Q5

April 26, 2013 at 10:09 AM · congrats with finding the solution!

April 27, 2013 at 02:06 AM · Robert "Bob" Luther Gauldin (born 1931) is an American composer and Professor Emeritus of Music Theory at the Eastman School of Music.

Pavane by Robert Gauldin.

Diverse dances : for chamber orchestra , Pavane movement 4. © 1957.

Physical Description : ms. score (56 p.) + parts ; Large folio.

Duration : 14'

Contents : Contradance: Poco pesante -- Minuet: Allegretto -- Pavane: Adagio -- Estampie: Allegro.

2[1,pic] 1 1 1 — 2 1 1 0 — tmp — hp — str.

Composed 1957. First performance Rochester, New York, 16 April 1957, Eastman-Rochester Orchestra, Howard Hanson conductor. The third movement won 2nd prize of the Edward B. Benjamin Award for Quiet Music, 1957.

Score and parts on rental to orchestra libraries from The Fleisher Collection, Philadelphia. PA. Catalog number:5621

The rare recording: Audio CD. Music for Quiet Listening.

Wayne Barlow (Composer), Paul Earls (Composer), Robert Gauldin (Composer) [Track 4 Pavane],

Kent Kennan (Composer), Martin Mailman (Composer), Neil McKay (Composer), Ron Nelson (Composer), William Pursell (Composer), Joseph Scianni (Composer), Robert Stern (Composer).

This recording is a collection of pieces from the 1950s by Eastman School of Music composers which were awarded the Benjamin Prize at the school.

http://www.amazon.com/Music-Quiet-Listening-Wayne-Barlow/dp/B0000057MJ

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Gauldin

April 28, 2013 at 07:18 AM · Well done Jan! See I said it was eastern european :p

April 28, 2013 at 07:26 AM · I have to share this. Jan's link is not tothe piece but to a discussion thread on the Amazon.com classical music discussion topic. The piece was identified by one 'cute n cuddly Bartok' (I'm not making this up) but its how s/he did it that is so cute and cuddly:

"Am I allowed to confess here? Students here in my lab doing some chemistry exam questions, me having done my marking, wasting my employer's time on this site. I comment "oooh! A piece of music I have never heard"...

One student whips out his mobile phone, holds it up to the speaker and says "Pavane by Howard Hanson Eastman Orchestra"

Seriously he has a gizmo on his phone that will recognise ANY piece of music that is publicly stored online. Can you believe that????? Took no more than five seconds!!!

I did check out he was right by the way, which is where I found the name of the - to me - previously unknown Bob Gauldin."

I think I saw that tune recognition software (Shazam?) but when we tried it it failed miserably. Obviously this version worked.

I guess this is another example where we won't actually have to know anything anymore, just push a button....

[Jan - I think these sleuths need a thank you or something ;) ]

April 28, 2013 at 08:47 PM · @Clinton F. Nieweg: Thank you for the information on Robert Gauldin and his Pavane.

@Elise Stanley: Before I posted my question, I had tried Midomi, but to no succes. I guess the student/assistent of "Cute n cuddly Bartok" used Shazam. Of course I am eternally grateful for his/her help. ;)

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