Violin performance camp - for adults

December 15, 2011 at 02:50 AM · There are a LOT of violin summer camps for school age students and a fair number for those up to end of college. And there are a few camps for accomplished violinists - young professionals, often hosted at prestigious institutes.

The opportunities for adults are somewhat different. On the one hand there are camps for beginners and the other for accomplished adults to enjoy the instrument - mostly by playing chamber music. However, the emphasis of most adult camps seems to be on participation in music rather than training. [In a way, this seems to mirror the competition scene]

Thus, what I seek is an 'immersion' camp for serious violin study at the intermediate-early advanced level. And I don't really care where it is (would love to go to europe ;) )! The ideal place will have daily private lessons, practise sessions with an accompanist; lessons in theory, performance, and repertoire and also opportunities for chamber music and performance.

Any suggestions?

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December 15, 2011 at 07:06 PM · Great idea--sign me up! I think the music schools and university departments want the big $$ for musically inclined adults, but it would be fantastic to start an independent, affordable (free or non-profit) music camp as you describe.

December 15, 2011 at 07:53 PM · Yup Evan the responses are deafening aren't they? Perhaps there are too few of us - or maybe the camps have not recognized this as a genre of its own - I think its possible to find one for piano or jazz - just not violin. OTOH you can get a lot out of one of the chamber music camps - which I might do again next year (Interlochen)... But still hoping....

December 15, 2011 at 11:05 PM · I would love to find something like this, it would be amazing to be on violin overload for a week. I am going to be glued to this post to see if anyone knows of any place...

December 16, 2011 at 12:28 AM · Maybe someone could start a camp somewhere. I know a YMCA camp east of Tulsa that is comfortable yet rustic with a kichen staff available. It affordable for most people. Maybe some of the experts here would help out. I think it would be so fun. I'm a beginner and would love to spent time learning more.

Julie

December 16, 2011 at 01:30 AM · Does Aspen have age limit?

December 16, 2011 at 01:40 AM · Elise,

You should just start a camp. Find a good teacher who will teach you and get some others to join you. Tell everyone what the goals are. Start small, and who knows where you go from there. It's an admirable idea.

See if there's some famous teacher who would love to visit Toronto and put them up.

I know, easy for me to say. I'd probably do it myself except I have two small kids and a wife and too much else going on.

Terry

December 16, 2011 at 01:57 AM · Sounds like an idea who's time has come! I would actually think about this if I had the time. Maybe an existing camp would consider adding this as an option? Any camp-organizers on V.COM?

ee

December 16, 2011 at 02:50 AM · I would LOVE to attend such a camp! I'm really hopeful someone will organize one!

December 16, 2011 at 04:15 AM · Let's see how many v.comers want to come and how far they're prepared to travel so we can work out where to start our camp and what it will cost.

So, count me in and anywhere I can get within about 12 hours flying of Canada.

Prague or Budapest if we're going Europe :-)

E

December 16, 2011 at 04:50 AM · Sounds like a project. I'll talk to one of my teachers and see what she thinks...

December 16, 2011 at 05:06 AM · When there is demand I'm sure someone or some organization will start organizing it. We should keep a list of people interested. I'm in :)

December 16, 2011 at 05:49 AM · As a teacher of numerous comeback and adult beginners and the director of a non-profit arts education organization, I could organize and host a week-long workshop (with concerts) for adult violin students in Orange County, CA next summer.

If anyone is interested in volunteering to help put such an event together, please send me a message!

December 16, 2011 at 09:09 AM · I would love to participate too!

December 16, 2011 at 10:42 AM · Gene - thats fantastic. I would definitely come (and my son lives in LA too). We should correspond about the feasibility and what would be required.

It would be very useful for people to list here what most important to them. The location would have to have a lot of placed for individual practise more than the usual rooms for group work. Let me think of a program and then I'll throw it up here for critique/improvement.

December 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM ·

December 16, 2011 at 03:44 PM · I'm in. I would love something like this. Only, I hesitate because I do not have the energy I once had. Would an adult camp require the same intensity as some of the ones intended for children/teens? I am not sure I am up for that. What are your thoughts on what might need to be different for adults because not all of us might have the energy we once did?

December 16, 2011 at 04:34 PM · I'd love to do this too, except I'm already committed to going to my daughter's Suzuki Camp at least next year, which is nearly a whole week. At my daughter's camp, adults can enroll but few do, probably because it just feels weird as the instruction and other activities are aimed squarely at kids. Also I'm supposed to participate with my child (that's the Suzuki way), so I don't really have time for a lot of individual things. As she gets older that may change. I was able to carve out an hour a day to get chamber music coaching (with a fine violist), but it's not the same as the intensive lessons that Elise wants -- and that I also would enjoy. I could probably pay for a couple of lessons "on the side" but I've seen the faculty schedules at the camp and those people are giving 110% already. Which is too bad because they're really good.

I think one of the problems you will run into is having a critical mass of participants that are matched in terms of their ability. Otherwise it will not be meaningful. With kids you just give the number of their current Suzuki book, but with adults I think playing level is much harder to pin down. And with the laws of statistics its harder to achieve level-matching with a smaller group, which puts you in a chicken-and-egg situation.

So I agree. Start a camp! Aim for six participants including yourself and perhaps two faculty members and a couple of accompanists. It could be violin only for starters, and you could have practice time, master class time, individual lesson time, and you could set up a round-robin of duets (Pleyel or Mozart, depending on the level), and of course recitals. Three solid days would be about right -- arrive Thursday afternoon, leave Sunday afternoon or such.

And I hear what Ann is saying, but (like Patty) I almost feel like I would want a schedule that is so intensive and exhausting that I have to leave all of my other cares at the door.

December 17, 2011 at 12:22 AM · I like both - an intense insane 5 hrs nonstop - and then 5 more for private practise and pick-up groups!

Then sleep, sharpen your bow, and start again - culminating in a final day with a leisurely breakfast and performances - and then a trek to the pub for a final wine-toasted meal. Ah, lets hear it for the (adult) camp!

December 17, 2011 at 12:32 AM · A list of things that would be great to include, IMHO:

- individual lessons

- anybody can sit in on anyone else's lesson

- master classes where everyone plays for each other and everyone is required to comment on something, anything.

- performances by instructors

- performances by students every night

- pub crawls

- a skit night (sounds hokey, but it's fun)

- practice time

- a master class by a visiting instructor

- have it someplace fun so there's other things to do.

December 17, 2011 at 12:39 AM · SIGN ME UP!!!

I might be able to convince my teacher, Alex DePue, or one or more of his brothers to play or possibly teach!

December 17, 2011 at 12:42 AM · Great suggestions Terry. I'm not sure about the sitting in though - lessons at a camp are a chance for you to get input on things that you may have a hangup with because you could not figure them out with your regular teacher. Also some people might feel restricted and shy. Remember many people (myself included) never studied in a formal institution where I am sure you just have to get used to such approaches.

Actually I'm still trying to figure out some of the unwritten rules of lessons...

December 17, 2011 at 06:02 AM · When I went to Aria there was an adult who was a serious amateur, but had no aspirations of being a professional who attended.

December 17, 2011 at 06:27 AM · Sounds good to me, where do I apply for a scholarship for this camp?

December 17, 2011 at 07:22 AM · I think there's something about being able to play a 5 octave scale in thirds on an audition tape, but my memory on that is a little fuzzy. We're all getting old around here and my memory's not what it used to be. :)

BTW, Elise, the open lesson policy is a pretty good one in my opinion. When you get used to people listening to you practicing on stuff, it makes it much easier to perform. It also makes it more interesting for the audience and it's very educational. Everyone knows that any teacher is trying to stretch your boundaries or teach a new technique. That goes for everyone, there's nothing to be ashamed of. Performing is an important part of playing the violin.

But since I'm not the one organizing this event, take it with a grain of salt, so to speak. :)

December 17, 2011 at 09:46 AM · Joseph: on the web site Aria gives an age limit of 28. Was that student older?

December 17, 2011 at 09:48 AM · Rebecca - great idea. You're in charge of getting the corporate sponsors! :)

December 17, 2011 at 11:54 AM · How about a silent auction to help cover some of the cost? My Andalusian horse group has them all the time. The national show makes loads of money that way. We could get donations from members here and from music stores.

Julie

December 17, 2011 at 01:52 PM · Time is very precious to many of us. If I'm going to spend upwards of a week on this, I want a premium experience. Don't cut corners or do things on the cheap. It doesn't have to be at the four seasons, but we should be civilized.

December 17, 2011 at 02:06 PM · Paul,

Thats a tough one. Like you I like my creature comforts and I am fortunate to be able to afford them. However, such a camp has to be inclusive so that participation is determined by musical aspirations and talent and not by finacial need. The ideal setup would accomodate all extremes - excellent facilities that are close to both basic and luxury facilities.

That said, a first shot at this would have to be focused on the music with compromises on other aspects. If it takes off it will be far easier to deal withe important, but more peripheral issues of creature comforts.

At this point we should identify and rate the essential, the important and the desirable. Then we can put together a perliminary plan.

ee

December 18, 2011 at 12:36 AM ·

December 18, 2011 at 12:38 AM · Here's one that I found in the back of the latest issues of "Strings" magazine that sounds interesting.

SummerKeys Maine Coast String Vacation for Adults -- Beginners-Advanced

I have absolutely no affiliation and know nothing about it other than what I am reading on the website.

Opinions? Experience with this camp?

December 18, 2011 at 02:35 AM · Sara- the website seems kinda messed up- all links lead to the same page, with no specific information. Too early?

One other thing that might be a good idea at a camp as intensive as the Stanleyville Summer Smackdown promises to be would be a seminar on preventing injury, staying healthy, something like that. Especially if the camp is 5 or more days, it's a lot of playing for people who aren't used to that schedule and aren't as, shall we say, flexible as we used to be!

Someone above mentioned keeping it down to three or so days. One part of my job entails setting up art classes. During the summer we offer five- and occasionally three-day workshops. Five days leaves people exhausted, but in the best possible way, with lots of things to mull over for weeks, months, or years to come. Students in three-day classes often say they wish they had had more time. Also, if people are coming from a distance, a longer class sometimes makes it easier to justify the trip. Something to consider.

December 18, 2011 at 03:34 AM · Such a wealth of information from responders here, seems like if we can all get together and take turns guiding each other's performances, we could really improve our music skills. Years ago in a college music performance class, the teacher cancelled so we had a class without him! Went very well, even though our teacher was missed. Admittedly, it was his artistic brilliance that had us all loving music performance in the first place, but maybe a self-guided performance convention could be a valuable experience-- and the start of something big.

In these financially challenged times, I could envision such a gathering at no fee, but all welcome to attend with RSVP.

December 18, 2011 at 05:11 AM · Lisa: Because she added a slash at the back of the page. It's here: http://www.summerkeys.com/

December 18, 2011 at 01:46 PM · That looks like a potentially really good intensive adult music camp for anyone interested. It appears to have good teachers and facilities. I wonder if there's anyone on v.com who has been to this camp?

It'd be interesting to see what people who organized a camp would come up with too.

Just in case anyone is wondering, I'm too busy with work and kids to attend a camp, but I think the whole concept is really interesting! It really shouldn't be hard to find strong players who are interested in making a few extra $ and teaching an adult camp.

December 18, 2011 at 03:45 PM · One possibility that you might explore is an off-season cruiseship. There are music cruiseships now where orchestras of professional musicians provide concerts during the cruise. I've not seen any invite amateurs to bring their instruments along for individual lessons, master classes, or ensemble coaching by those professionals ~ between concerts. (See www.symphonicvoyages.com, for example.) Because most of these are "off season" for the cruise lines, the costs are significantly discounted AND there are diverse choices for accommodations ~ from penthouse suites to inside cabins. Why not "rough it" in style? It'll also help the professionals to earn a few extra dollars!

December 18, 2011 at 08:25 PM · I'd be interested to hear from anyone who has been to SummerKeys about their experiences too.

I love Terry's list, and I agree that observing lessons is very helpful - I participated in my local Suzuki Institute as an observer last summer (Unfortunately they don't take adults as students), which allowed me to sit in any students' lessons, and I learned a lot. I wouldn't mind letting others observe my lessons (I have had my teacher's prospective student and parent sitting in my lesson once).

I also like the idea of everyone giving feedback to everyone else's playing - we have been doing that at my teacher's monthly performance group lessons (6th grade and above), and it has been very beneficial - beside receiving valuable input and ideas from one's peers (those youngsters often have great insights), it makes one think about many aspects of performing, from posture, stage presence, to musical expression, and one becomes a better critique and teacher of one's own playing in the process.

Evan, a face-to-face convention would be nice, but if finance is a concern, video conferencing (using Skype or some free service) would be another route, or one can simply upload one's performance on YouTube and post a link here to seek feedback.

It's great that Gene is willing to put an event together for adult students. If there is a Donate button for flying Buri over from Japan to teach, I'd love to contribute to it. ;)

December 18, 2011 at 09:58 PM · The biggest challenge in organizing the camp is getting instructors to really make you work, at least in my opinion. So many teachers of adult students think that the students are just there to play around and have fun, not really improve. It'd be interesting to see what people really want out of a camp.

If I went to an adult music camp, I'd want to practice and really improve. I'd want the teacher to be tough and identify exactly how to help me to make the most progress the fastest. Having been in an intense music conservatory type environment, I know that it can be kinda aggressive, hypercritical and cutthroat. I wouldn't exactly advocate for that.

That said, I've been at other places which were definitely for career track musicians but were very warm, inviting, but focused on improvement. It's obviously the latter rather than the former that any adult student wants.

That's the number one thing to interview the instructors for - their willingness to be tough, yet supportive. But maybe that's just me, I certainly can't speak for everyone. Some people might want support at the expense of toughness.

December 19, 2011 at 03:09 AM · She was in fact older, but now that you bring it up I do remember her saying something about how she had worked around that based on her birth date and that this would be her last year.

28 is an adult, but still quite young. I suppose it doesn't meet the criterion for the thread =|

December 19, 2011 at 10:58 AM · Some ideas that may help those who are considering starting a camp:

International Piano Summer School

This serious but friendly piano camp might give some inspiration for a violin version. Intermediate and advanced adult amateurs are welcome there, as are children, conservatoire students and professionals. Having said that, it’s quite different from the sort of thing it sounds like Elise and co might organise, in that part of the reason it can run the way it does is because it’s on such a large scale (I have no idea how many people were there when I went, but several hundred).

In response to Terry’s point about teachers not knowing how hard adults want to work, the great thing about this piano camp was that everyone could do as much or as little as they wanted: the minimum is 3 hours’ private piano lessons over the 6 days, and beyond that those who chose to do so could do anything up to 5 hours’ practice, and attend masterclasses, workshops, and concerts by students and faculty members, as well as observing other people’s lessons. At additional cost you could also book extra private lessons – so whilst there may have been some people doing only 2-3 hours’ music per day and spending the rest of the day socialising or sightseeing, many people spent their every waking minute playing or listening.

I agree that having an open-door policy for sitting in on lessons is great – it doesn’t have to make anyone feel awkward as everyone would be there to learn and improve. It’s also very helpful for anyone considering teaching in the future. Again, though, I think that perhaps the option to observe other lessons is more important in a large camp with many teachers, where it’s impossible for each person to receive instruction from everyone on the faculty.

A couple of other things: I like the idea of having set works – there could for example be workshop classes on a particular movement that several people had learned, or a masterclass covering a whole sonata or concert with each movement played by a different student. Or there could be a concert of, for example, the complete sonatas and partitas, or all the sonatas by Handel or Beethoven, where each person played a movement or several.

To me, chamber music (so if the camp were violin or violin/viola only, duos, trios and quartets) would be important, and I’d enjoy orchestra too. In short, I’m sad not to be good enough or young enough for the Perlman Music Program, as the combination of activities there sounds great.

I can’t afford to come to the US next summer (I live in the UK) but I would love to participate in such a camp - perhaps in 5 or 10 years!

December 19, 2011 at 04:19 PM · If I thought I could handle the intensity, a camp that really focused on practice and improving would be what I would want.

But since I don't think I could maintain that for more than a few hours each day, and probably not all in one block, the idea of a camp where you could choose your own pace sounds great.

However, it seems like that would only work with a fairly large faculty and student body.

December 19, 2011 at 04:30 PM · Christian Howes runs the kind of music camp you describe for violinists who are interested in improvisational music - jazz, fiddling, rock. He and his talented staff give individual coaching, and assemble groups of similar skilled students with similar interests. He has a rhythm section for the jazz group. Students and teachers of all ages participate. The participants practice during the day, and perform at local clubs and restaurants in the evening. Music theory, rhythm, and working with electronic gear are all covered and worked on. Check out Christian and his Creative Strings Workshops for a really stimulating summer camp in Ohio.

December 19, 2011 at 11:16 PM · I organize two adult chamber music retreats in British Columbia Canada. One is in February and the other September. We have a web page www.gser.ca

Please feel free to contact me dclark@dcmt.bc.ca

December 20, 2011 at 05:16 AM · Hey, David, welcome to v.com!

I have been to these chamber weekend retreats here in beautifu British Columbia a few times. They were intense and you'll learn a lot. Highly recommended.

Yixi

December 20, 2011 at 06:08 PM · Great recommendation Yixi, thanks.

December 20, 2011 at 08:18 PM · I thought the new horizons camps were mostly for beginners? Is that not the case now?

December 20, 2011 at 08:22 PM · @Terry: You are welcome! There were quite a few very good players from Seattle the last time I was there at the retreat. Check it out if you haven't yet.

Yixi

December 20, 2011 at 08:36 PM · There is also the Ashland Chamber Music Workshops in Ashland, Oregon, which came to my attention via this thread: The Benefits of Adult Music Camps

December 21, 2011 at 02:16 AM · Yixi,

Mary Sokol is a living legend. Her father was Vilem Sokol, the conductor of the Seattle Youth Symphony for something like 35 years. Vilem Sokol was a student of Sevcik.

His son Mark Sokol was a former first violinist of the Concord Quartet.

Both Mary and Mark were concertmasters of the Seattle Youth Symphony in their day.

So I'm not surprised that it is well attended by Seattlites. It sounds like a great camp!

Terry

December 21, 2011 at 04:02 AM · Terry,

The first time I heard Mary playing, I was in awe at her amazing bow technique and her huge tone. It turned out she studied with Josef Gingold and Dorothy Delay. So each time I went to the retreat, I asked Mary for a lesson and she always managed to find time for me. She gave me a lot of very helpful tips on tone production with some basic exercises sketched out on a piece of paper. She is such a wonderful and warm person, always positive and very generous. I didn’t know anything about her father, but now it all makes sense. You probably know that Andrew the violist is her brother-in-law. He too is a wonderful musician and the tough one when comes to coaching, which is what I like. The cellist Ariel Barnes is so naturally talented. Listen to his playing made me want to convert to cello. What a fun bunch!

Yixi

January 17, 2012 at 01:48 AM · Update:

I'm still looking! One key is to search not for 'camps' which is an american term, but 'course' or 'school' and that turns up lots of summer events in Europe.

Still a lot of dead ends. I've found a few but its hard to commit as they give so few details about the program except, say, 6 private lessons. Its hardly worth 2-3K$ to get 6 private lessons!!

I just found this one which is interesting: http://www.interharmony.com/index.html with sites in germany and italy (the timing of the latter really works). They state that all ages are welcome - and even have boxes up to age 60 on their application form. So thats good. However, they also need an audition recording but make no mention of what their expectations are. Thats a bit screwy since to send the tape in you have to pay a $100 non-refundable entry fee!! I've inquired so we'll see what they say...

January 17, 2012 at 11:24 AM · A bit off the beaten track, but if anyone wants to combine this with the Scottish highlands there is a summer chamber music retreat in Ullapool.

January 17, 2012 at 01:24 PM · Thanks for that Mungo - its not one I found for all my searching. It does accomodate adults but main focus is a chamber music camp (of which there are a few). Its not performance centred (my main seek).

January 19, 2012 at 04:51 PM · At the beginning my guess is that simplicity would be a guiding principle. But at the same time I don't think anything would be off the table. I'm glad this discussion is remaining current.

January 19, 2012 at 07:09 PM · Sorry about the wonky link I added for Summerkeys. Thanks to the poster who corrected that for me.

Summerkeys sounds very interesting to me, and I can see making an extended vacation out of it. Looks like such a beautiful area, and hubby would have plenty to do while I would be at camp. I am just barely at the 2-yr level, but it sounds as though all are welcome. Hmmm.....

January 19, 2012 at 07:22 PM · I'm still persevering. Summerkeys is nice but not as agressive as I'd like. The relly promising programs are mostly not interested - regardless of ability. However, I have found three possible ones, all in Europe in Andorra, Italy and north Spain. I'll drop off some more info later.

January 22, 2012 at 08:21 AM · I actually took a lesson from its organizer, Burton Kaplan. He is a violinist but has specialized in the approach to practise and playing rather than the technique itself. I think his retreats are primarily for professional or professional-track musicians - but maybe he's on here and would comment!

January 22, 2012 at 10:56 AM · Since you say in the first post that Europe is an option, you could investigate this: https://lmfl.org/

I don't know anything about it but there are some good testimonials on the site (the website is rather confusing, keep trying a few different links and eventually you'll find more information than initially seems to be there!)

January 24, 2012 at 08:15 AM · Elise, have you seen this one:

http://englishcamerata.org.uk/

January 24, 2012 at 12:01 PM · Rosie, Yes I did find that one - they have three separate camps, the main one in vienna and then ones in wales (UK) and Andorra (between spain and france). The Andorra one is a real possibility but, as you say, the web sites are muddled and its not entirely clear what the program is. All you seem to be guaranteed is a few private lessons - they don't even point you to the program from the year before (when it was in Lyon, France) to give you an example. I have corresponded with them and they seem to be happy to take me but its still a bit of an uknown for such a big investment... Incidentally, there is another one that seems a bit more organized (but not much more) in northern spain that I am also corresponding with:

http://www.vitoriamusic.com/index.php?sub=14

at this point its between the three: andorra, vitoriamusic and the one in tuscany. But all are the same they talk of private lessons, chamber music, masterclasses etc but don't have any schedules or past schedules to point you to.

January 24, 2012 at 12:15 PM · jean - that one seems fabulous, at least for chamber music. It doesn't have the performance emphasis that I seek but they do encourage solo work.

Its just tragic that it spans the weekend that I have to be at my neices wedding. Then I thought of going to it and driving down to the wedding - but its just too far isn't it - Shrewsbury to Blandford Dorset; I'd miss to much of the course :(

Thanks for the link!!

January 26, 2012 at 10:25 AM · I have two real choices!!

First one is at the University of Sienna Italy. This sounds really intensive where you spend a month doing undergraduate courses in violin performance. I wrote to them and they feel my skill level is appropriate for the course - and they are happy to have adults. Only caveat is I don't think I can take (afford??) a whole month.

The other one I am going to be a bit secretive about (it needs more checking out). Acually, it surely must be the ultimate violin fantasy: to spend 2-3 weeks living in the home (a villa in southern Europe) of a internationally recognized violinist while having individual instruction.

I'm so excited about the latter I think I've lost any objectivity!! [I haven't even replied to them yet] Any advice on how I should proceed would be greatly appreciated...

January 26, 2012 at 05:24 PM · Yes! The Baltimore Symphony Orchestra offers an intensive, week-long immersion "Academy" for adult amateur musicians. The Academy will be held this year from June 23 - June 30.

Participants play side-by-side with BSO players in an orchestra led by Music Director Marin Alsop, are led in sectionals by BSO musicians, and also have the opportunity to play in chamber music groups, private lessons, masterclasses and solo performances. Academy Participants are also encouraged to attend enrichment seminars on topics ranging from "Music and the Brain" (with renowned expert Charles Limb) to yoga and physical therapy.

Read more about the BSO Academy here at:

Applications are due FEBRUARY 14, 2012. Don't wait to apply!

January 26, 2012 at 10:14 PM · Your program sounds great for those who want orchestra expericne. However, this topic is NOT about orchestra but about performance training - that is common lingo for solo work - you know the stuff violinists do so that they can get into an orchestra and then not do it anymore (I think your post is really a hijack isn't it?... .

It would be terrific if you guys also offered a non-orchestra, performance track at your retreat - indeed I asked if that was possible on your recent topic advertising the retreat but I did not see a reply.

ee

January 27, 2012 at 01:08 PM · Check the following:

Web site

http://isabelle.oehmichen.free.fr

Vincent Bérczi, Président de l'AMFH (Association Musicale Franco-Hongroise)

Ou Isabelle Oehmichen-Bérczi, pianiste, Directrice artistique de l'AMFH

Co-directrice de l'Académie Internationale de Musique de Chambre à Budapest

Tél/Fax: +33 (0)1 45 42 98 34

I know it says chamber music, but that includes violin and piano duo. You'd have to speak to the director and say what you're after, and possibly ask for the possibility of taking private violin lessons a the same time. The course concludes with a concert or two. I went on this course a few years ago and enjoyed it very much. Only, as a chamber music (and particularly string quartet) enthusiast, I felt it didn't quite offer what I wanted.

January 27, 2012 at 06:18 PM · Sounds pretty good Margaret - especially because you give a testimonial. And ironic that you were after chamber but they did too much performance! If you are in the US you should consider Interlochen, where I was last year (may go there this year again as well) It was chamber music immersion!!

But I think I am committing to one of the following (posted above the BSO hijack ;) and quoted):

"First one is at the University of Sienna Italy. This sounds really intensive where you spend a month doing undergraduate courses in violin performance. I wrote to them and they feel my skill level is appropriate for the course - and they are happy to have adults. Only caveat is I don't think I can take (afford??) a whole month.

The other one I am going to be a bit secretive about (it needs more checking out). Acually, it surely must be the ultimate violin fantasy: to spend 2-3 weeks living in the home (a villa in southern Europe) of a internationally recognized violinist while having individual instruction.

I'm so excited about the latter I think I've lost any objectivity!! [I haven't even replied to them yet] Any advice on how I should proceed would be greatly appreciated... "

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