Hiroshi Kono owner comments?

February 28, 2011 at 04:13 AM ·

I think the Hiroshi Kono violin might be my next purchase. Any owners out there who can speak about their experiance with a Kono? Best place to buy one price-wise? Any sound files or video out there?





Replies (53)

October 29, 2011 at 11:34 PM · Check out this video. Looking for a new violin myself.

Hiroshi Kono violin, new, quick demo


October 31, 2011 at 01:11 AM · My son plays a 1/4 Kono and I have a full size (my second fiddle). Both are really nice instruments. For violins below 5k, Kono's offer a really good bang for the buck. They tend to sound dark and smooth, but also project pretty nicely. Of course every violin is unique in it's own way, so you have to try it out to find one you like. I played about 5 Konos before I picked mine.

October 31, 2011 at 01:45 PM · So I found that the H.K. violins are made in Tokyo. High levels of radiation have been found throughout Tokyo as a result of the Fukushima plant disaster and I'm now wondering if it's unwise to purchase a new violin from Japan.

October 31, 2011 at 02:41 PM · tony, no offense, but a little knowledge often can be more harmful.

for instance, take me as an example. since i am not a nuclear rocket scientist, i thought posting in front of a computer which emits radiation is quite dangerous.

every time i go onto the golf course, errant ball hitting my head is one thing, but solar radiation is another!

i fly all the time,,,there is another source.

second hand smoke,,,radiation there as well,,,

the other thing i am paranoid about is the tiny screws on a shoulder rest. is there any heavy metal in there that emits gamma radiation which in turn causes the shoulder ache???

and what goes into the making of an e tuner? who really checked?!

October 31, 2011 at 03:00 PM · Avoid also the following foods that contain radiation:

brazil nuts, bananas, potatoes, lima beans, and sunflower seeds + lots of other food items.

Computer screens are better now, but a Swedish study showed that women spending their working days in front of a screen ( the old ones) for 20 years had a 3 times higher incidence of thyroid cancer.Same with repeated dental xrays , also a Swedish study.

Some people have radon seeping in their basement and if I remember correctly about one in 500 lungcancers is thought to be caused by radon.

I definitely would not worry about getting a violin from Japan.

October 31, 2011 at 03:13 PM · I'm a registered nurse and also attended nuclear medicine school not long after graduating nursing school. I know the difference between normal background radiation and radiation from sources such as the Fukushima nuclear power plant.

Japan is finished. It's only a matter of time.

I'll have to determine when the violin in question was made and shipped to the states.

Japanese dealers selling 'radioactive cars'

Unscrupulous used-car dealers in Japan are selling vehicles exposed to dangerously high levels of radiation to unsuspecting buyers.


Radiation check in Japan October 24 2011 over 11µSv/h


Kashiwa hot spot linked to Fukushima


Unihabitable: Breaking News: 110 micro Sv/h in Setagaya


On 29 Oct 2011, I measured radiation in front of a gate of an elementary school in Kiwa city, Chiba pref. Japan The monitorinig place is 200 km from Fukushima Nuclear power plant, and 35

or 40 km to Tokyo, called "Tokyo Hot Spot".


8,000 Bq/Kg of radioactive sewage sludge incinerated ash is being dumped in Tokyo Bay


October 31, 2011 at 04:02 PM · i really don't want to waste anyone's time on this side track. but i think given your so called back ground on this topic, you should be particularly sensitive to the accuracy of your assertion. it is not like "japan is finished" as you say,,,in fact, on many levels, many can argue that america is more finished, and we are not even talking about radiation. come on, be serious.

i see you have another thread asking about the location of this make. does that really matter if you want to put a spin on it?

if made in china, think of 1 million reasons it may harm you.

if made in america, then it is safe for use?

if made in europe, then it has a higher chance of having an italian sound?

come on, don't let your fine education go to waste:)

November 1, 2011 at 12:15 AM · FACT: Those living and working around Fukushima are dead men (and women and children) walking. They've been dosed with such high levels of radiation that they are beyond hope. It's just a matter of time.

The Japanese are also burning their radiation contaminated waste which puts it straight up into the atmosphere. Radioactivity from Fukushima has been detected on the West Coast of the United States and Canada.

They are also burying their radioactive sludge just miles from Tokyo. It's being dumped in Tokyo Bay! And the radioactivity only continues to fester and grow worse.

I don't want anything, including a violin, that is contaminated with deadly radioactivity. If I buy the Kono I'm looking at the first place I'm taking it is to the hospital so that I can run a Geiger counter over it. Or I'll take a meter to the shop when I go to look at the violin.

"Tokyo Electric Says It Found Plutonium in Soil Samples Near Nuclear Plants"

Radiation levels that can prove fatal have been detected outside reactor buildings at the plant for the first time, complicating efforts to contain the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl in 1986.


"Japan Tsunami Debris Floating Toward Hawaii"

Up to 20 million tons of [RADIOACTIVE] tsunami debris floating from Japan could arrive on Hawaii's shores by early 2013, before reaching the West Coast, according to estimates by University of Hawaii scientists.


There is a distinction to be made between being ignorantly paranoid and judiciously cautious. I fall into the latter camp.

I am however, excited about the prospect of owning a Hiroshi Kono violin from all I've read here and on other websites written by those who now own one, or two. The consensus is that they are a lot of violin for the money under $3,000.

November 1, 2011 at 12:44 AM · whatever floats your boat, tony.

kinda odd to must get a violin from japan in anticipation of rushing it to a nearby hospital for clearance. i am smiling because i can see running through the hospital, yelling,,,get away folks, hot violin!

what if the violin indeed shows high level of radiation as you have me already convinced that it will? am i going to see you being interviewed by CNN holding it with a 12 foot pole? :)

what is the resale value of a 3k violin with radiation?

November 1, 2011 at 01:16 AM · I personally would not be the least bit worried about radiation, but if you are truly concerned, then you should get a different violin. I am no expert, but even if the violin was exposed to high doses of radiation, that wouldn't make it radioactive. I would think that it would need to be contaminated with radioactive material to remain radioactive. At any rate maybe if you have immanent cancer, you won't need radiation therapy. Just play your radioactive violin. The headlines will read, cancer patient saved by violin.

November 1, 2011 at 01:32 AM · Tony I think your info comes from newspapers that make no distinction between levels of radiation that are different by many many orders of magnitude.


I am not saying there is no problem in Japan,particularly when people are trying to circumvent the rules like fishing near Fukushima, or selling used cars coming from within the close proximity of the Fukushima explosion and sold unscrupulously by crooks. Maybe the authorities aren't always dealing with it correctly, but there is a lot of hype in the papers. Seriously, there is no risk buying a violin from Japan. But by all means, run a Geiger counter over it.

November 1, 2011 at 01:35 AM · One molecule of a radioactive nuclide is enough to cause damage to one's DNA. These veterans coming back from the Middle East and other theaters of operation who used depleted uranium cartridges in their machine guns, or who were otherwise exposed to depleted uranium on the battle field will be the next Agent Orange and Camp Lejeune Water contamination veterans.

Considering that I am one of the 750,000 men, women, and children who were poisoned (damaged, dying, or dead as a result) while serving or working aboard Marine Corps Base, Camp Lejeune, N.C. between 1957 and 1988 by contaminated drinking water, any exposure of a contaminate that I can avoid is absolutely necessary.

Take a look at what was in the water we drank, bathed in, and ate food prepared with, while serving at Marine Corps Base, Camp Lejeune, N.C.


See: http://tftptf.com

And: http://watersurvivors.com

By the way, if any of you know of anyone who served at Camp Lejeune during the period cited above you might mention the water contamination to them. Many don't know yet.

November 1, 2011 at 02:12 AM · @al: Since I have access to such measuring instruments it's simply a curiosity more than anything. I'm pretty laid back at this point in time and even if there were some level of radiation higher than background, I wouldn't do anything to alarm those around me. I am a professional after all.

I would offer it to you at a discount though. :-))

November 1, 2011 at 02:16 AM · @Hendrik: The information I receive regarding the Fukushima radiation aftermath comes from radiation experts. Most, if not all, are PhDs.

I don't read newspapers or even own a television.

November 1, 2011 at 01:37 PM · So Tony, as a employee of a Court house whose instruments and case has been x-rayed daily for security reasons - should I be concerned? I have to admit I never thought about it before.

---Ann Marie

November 1, 2011 at 03:10 PM · tony said, "I am a professional after all."

sorry that i questioned you before that introduction. but are you a specialist?


November 1, 2011 at 03:11 PM · Ann Marie, Do you go through the x-ray machine with your violin? If not, then I wouldn't worry about it. Don't worry, be happy :-)

November 1, 2011 at 06:17 PM · No Smiley my violin gets put on a moving belt and it goes through alone. Pretty interesting to see how it's put together though....

Once I saw a white filmy mass that I didn't recognize on the X-ray. Turned out to be a small dust ball in the f-hole.

---Ann Marie

November 1, 2011 at 07:45 PM · Tony, no offence but a few of your statements are way off the mark.

"Up to 20 million tons of [RADIOACTIVE] tsunami debris........"


Please read the article. It doesn't mention (RADIOACTIVE) but actually states that NOAA does think it highly unlikely there will be any radioactive contamination of the debris. Makes sense, all that stuff comes from the initial wave, the reactors didn't run into trouble untill later.

"One molecule of a radioactive nuclide can cause damage to one's DNA" : a nuclide is not a molecule, it is an atom . If you mean nucleide, the stuff our DNA is made of, outside radiation will not give you radioactive elements within your DNA. Certainly gamma rays or x rays can damage your DNA. Cosmic and other radiation cause DNA damage all the time. And our body has a very good system in place to fix that. When that fails for example because of the extent of the damage like in radiation sickness you may die or develop cancer.

Anne Marie:

There is no risk by putting your fiddle through an x-ray machine or even a CAT scanner. The x-rays do NOT cause any of the atoms in the molecules of the wood and varnish to BECOME radioactive. If you put old fashioned film through an x-ray machine it will cause a similar chemical reaction that light causes, but doesn't make your film radioactive.

November 1, 2011 at 11:36 PM · @Ann Marie Cordial: I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you a courthouse employee who stands at an x-ray scanner all day scanning the items passing through a security point? Or are you merely an employee within the courthouse building wherein your belongings are put through an x-ray scanner when going to work each day?

An inanimate object passing through an x-ray scanner isn't going to be contaminated with radioactivity. The man or woman standing near the scanner performing the scans all day does run the risk of exposure from those machines though. I never understood why they don't wear film badges that are tested weekly which measure the level of radiation they are subjected to while standing next to those machines all day.

One word of caution though. If you fly regularly you should avoid the backscatter x-ray scanners at all costs. They have been shown to cause significant DNA damage which in turn is resulting in chronic and deadly illnesses in those exposed to those scanners.

"TSA 'ignored warnings' on cancer cluster"

"In a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit against the DHS, EPIC says it's obtained documents concerning the SCANNERS' RADIATION RISKS, including agency emails, radiation studies, memoranda of agreement concerning radiation testing programs and the results of some radiation tests.

EPIC says that TSA staff have been concerned that A LARGE NUMBER OF WORKERS HAVE BEEN FALLING VICTIM TO CANCER, STROKES AND HEART DISEASE. But the documents show that the TSA's response was simply to tell them: "Because TSA systems comply with federal regulations, the increased risk of developing radiation-induced cancer in later life is extremely small, no greater than other risks people routinely accept in their daily lives".


"TSA scanners pose cancer risks"


As for those of you making light of me and some of my comments, I'd be the very last person on earth to deny you your Right of Free Speech. But know that ignorance comes with a price.

November 1, 2011 at 11:45 PM · @Hendrik: No, I meant radionuclides. I should have used the term atom and not molecule.

If the varnish or any other part of a violin was made with radioactive water or other materials the violin will be radioactive.

"Japan Says Number of Cattle Fed With RADIOACTIVE HAY Has Doubled"


Anyone think it impossible for wood to be so contaminated?

"Radioactive meat circulating on Japanese market"


You'd have to be very naive to think that other radioactive products haven't been shipped outside of Japan to other parts of the world. Their economy depends on it.

They are deliberately allowing children to remain in schools in areas of heavy contamination. If they care so little about their own why would they care about someone on the other side of the world?

I choose to be cautious about buying anything from Japan these days, including violins.

November 2, 2011 at 12:24 AM · tony, i cannot take this whole thing you have drummed up seriously because on one hand, you are very sure japan is going down because its radiation is out of control and popping up everywhere and on the other hand, you inquire about getting a product made in japan. like, huh?

if not making light of what you are doing, shall we take it seriously?

stop thinking just for yourself for one second. think about how confused we are.

please, i mean it,,,please, no more radiation lecture, thank you but no thank you :)

you are probably a great guy, but please, no more radiation lecture, pleaseeeeeeeeeee.

here, let's talk about violin and get back on topic. for 3k there are so many violins to choose from. what makes you so attracted to this particular maker? what other violins have you tried?

November 2, 2011 at 12:25 AM · Dear Tony,

I am anti nuclear and I watch radiation level reports in Japanes eon a daily basis.

I cna tell you with `absolute and total certainty- that high levels of radiation hav e -not- been found in Tokyo. That is utterly false. I don`t know whihc paper printed it but you should try other sources.

The -only= hot spot found inTokyou wa s under the floorboards and caused by a stack of bottles containing very old luminant paint. probably severly affecte dthe old lady who slept over them for twnety years without realizing it, but nothing to do with Hiroshima.

The insiduous spread of radioactivity and random hot spots located close to the thre eprefectures need sclose attention of course.



PS They are deliberately allowing children to remain in schools in areas of heavy contamination. If they care so little about their own why would they care about someone on the other side of the world?

This is, with all due respect , both inaccurate and racist.

November 2, 2011 at 12:58 AM · @Stephen:

The Japan Times Online

Saturday, Oct. 22, 2011

Two boys found with high internal radiation exposure


FUKUSHIMA — Two boys in Fukushima Prefecture have been internally exposed to the highest levels of radiation among the nearly 4,500 residents who were checked amid the nuclear crisis.

The level of exposure is estimated to be equivalent to 3 millisieverts during their lifetime, which is not expected to harm their health, prefectural officials said Thursday.

The local government has not disclosed the boys' exact ages, saying only that they are between 4 and 7 years old.

Both boys are from the town of Futaba, which partly hosts the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant. The two had the highest levels of internal exposure among 4,463 residents tested between June 27 and Sept. 30 in 13 high-risk municipalities, the officials said.

Among others tested, eight people measured 2 millisieverts, six registered 1 millisievert and the remaining 4,447 residents had less than 1 millisievert, they said.

They were tested with whole body counters at either the National Institute of Radiological Sciences in the city of Chiba or at the Japan Atomic Energy Agency in Tokai, Ibaraki Prefecture. Estimates for adults were calculated to measure accumulated radiation exposure in the coming 50 years, and for children until they reach the age of 70.

In a related development, Japan Atomic Power Co. said Thursday that a 21-year-old male worker at the Tsuruga nuclear plant's No. 2 reactor unit was internally exposed to radiation after possibly wiping his face with a cloth contaminated with radioactive substances.

The level of exposure was estimated at 1.7 millisieverts for the next 50 years, far below the government-set limit of 50 millisieverts per year for workers at nuclear-related facilities. It is not expected to have harmful effects on the man's health, company officials said.

The worker, who was in charge of checking the valves of the unit's primary coolant system, threw an uncontaminated cloth into a garbage bag in his work area inside the reactor building, but later stuck his hand into another garbage bag that contained low-level radioactive waste, including the contaminated cloth that he is thought to have used to wipe his face, they said.

Radioactive substances were detected on his face and chest as he was leaving the facility, and following external decontamination, tests found radioactive substances inside his abdomen, they said.

The garbage bag with the contaminated cloth was from another building, and workers are supposed to seal such bags when transporting them outside each work area.

Japan Atomic Power plans to ensure workers manage waste properly, the officials said.

See also:

Global data on Fukushima challenge Japanese estimates.

"The disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant in March released far more radiation than the Japanese government has claimed. So concludes a study that combines radioactivity data from across the globe to estimate the scale and fate of emissions from the shattered plant.

The new model shows that Fukushima released 3.5×10(16)Bq caesium-137, ROUGHLY TWICE THE OFFICIAL [JAPANESE] GOVERNMENT FIGURE, and half the release from Chernobyl."

November 2, 2011 at 01:05 AM · I conclude my radioactive comments at this time. Will likely purchase the Kono violin, but will run a Geiger counter over it just to be sure. :-))

November 2, 2011 at 01:13 AM · Well, look on the bright side. At least we are not debating about shoulder rests. How refreshing.

November 2, 2011 at 03:47 AM · Greetings,

Tony, you don`t even read your own posting, never mind anyone elses.

You said (direct quote:

`High levels of radiation have been found throughout Tokyo as a result of the Fukushima plant disaster and`

This is an out and out lie. nothing to do with the newsparer articles you offered me in response.

It really sickens me that you should attempt to representt the Japanese nation as a whole as uncaring about children. Painting a highly complex situation in this way is appalling. In the mean time those affected by the disaster who cannot move out of their area for reasons you apparently know nothing about are trying to protect their children as best they can, living on the edge of despair.

Conversely, I would never paint America as an uncaring country simply because politicians and financial interests happily dump toxic waste near the poor becaus e they can`t fight back. or indeed, wreck lives such as yours in such a horrifying way.


Incidentally, the Japan Times is not a model of journalistic integrity. It prints what its told to print by its sponsors and the political agenda it has .

November 2, 2011 at 05:47 AM ·

November 2, 2011 at 01:02 PM · @Stephen: Greetings.

Tokyo Suburb Starts Cleanup After Fukushima Radiation Found

----> OCTOBER 24, 2011, 9:12 P.M. ET <----

TOKYO (Dow Jones)--After the discovery of THE MOST RADIOACTIVE "HOTSPOT" SO FAR OUTSIDE OF FUKUSHIMA prefecture, officials of Kashiwa, A BEDROOM COMMUNITY JUST NORTH OF TOKYO, began combing through roadside gutters and [CHILDREN'S] PLAYGROUNDS Monday to find and clean up tainted spots.


November 2, 2011 at 01:05 PM · @Stephen: Greetings.

Concentrated radiation found in Tokyo

----> October 25, 2011 09:25:00 <----


The radiation hotspot was found in a vacant lot in Kashiwa, a commuter suburb on the outskirts of Japan's capital.

November 2, 2011 at 02:56 PM · So Tony, you feel your vantage on this from Alabama is better than Buri's, from Japan? Buri, who actually has volunteered in tsunami cleanup efforts? I personally think not.

November 2, 2011 at 05:11 PM · Two of the three hotspots in Setagaya are due to Radium that was somehow disposed of in a ridiculous way (as Buri said, somebody stuck some under their floorboards!). In case you've forgotten that is the chemical that used to be painted on watch hands, as a source for cancer treatment, and as a weird cure-all here in the US. I think that there is a third that is thought to be Radium as well.

If the government, interest groups, opposition parties, and fearful parents all started looking for radioactive hotspots in the US I wonder what we would find...

On topic, Laurie Niles, the editor of the site, was quite enthusiastically praising Hiroshi Kono violins at this point last year.

November 2, 2011 at 07:35 PM · @Laurie: No, I believe the nuclear experts and information upon which I base my conclusions regarding the Fukushima disaster and its aftermath are superior to the information, if any, that Stephen is relying upon.

A. Stohl; J. F. Burkhart; S. Eckhardt

NILU – Norwegian Institute for Air Research, Kjeller, Norway

P. Seibert; D. Arnold

Institute of Meteorology, University of Natural Resources and Life Sciences, Vienna, Austria

G. Wotawa

Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics, Vienna, Austria

D. Arnold; A. Vargas

Institute of Energy Technologies (INTE), Technical University of Catalonia (UPC), Barcelona, Spain

J. F. Burkhart; C. Tapia

Department of Physics and Nucelar Engineering (FEN),Technical University of Catalonia (UPC), Barcelona, Spain

T. J. Yasunari

Universities Space Research Association, Goddard Earth Sciences and Technology and Research, Columbia, MD 21044, USA

All of the above having determined that the actual release of various radiation being at least twice what is reported by the Japanese Government.

I understand Stephen's nationalist leanings as I'm an ardent nationalist myself. But I'm not so blind that I can't see that the U.S. Government has become the enemy of the American people and that, time after time, it has engaged in behavior detrimental to the best interests of the American people. The Japanese Government is no different. Governments consistently lie and deceive their people.

It's horrible what's happened in Japan and I would encourage anyone living there to move if at all possible. Do a search on Google and look at the birth defects caused by the use of depleted uranium in munitions used in Iraq and Afghanistan and now manifesting in the people of those countries.

There is no safe amount of radiation. It's all cumulative and deadly.

In passing, I've provided cites to actual scientific research and not mere "rants" as a result of my dislike for something someone else has written. I will cease making any further posts in this thread if other posters will cease addressing me within their comments.

And I intend to purchase that Kono violin I've been considering for a couple of weeks now having read its praises here and elsewhere by those who now own one.

November 2, 2011 at 08:35 PM · Nationalist? Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

I'm not worried about the Kono violins at all. In fact, a few of my students have purchased them in recent months and so far no one is glowing. They sound nice, look beautiful, and we're all happy.

I hope that this kind of anti-Japanese fear and ignorance does not take hold with violins or anything else, frankly.

November 2, 2011 at 09:03 PM · There is nothing "anti-Japanese" in anything I've posted. Where in the world would anyone get that idea? If there is please be specific and quote exactly what I said that was "anti-Japanese."

I have no problem with the Japanese people. Americans can learn a lesson in how to act after a disaster from the Japanese. (Contrast Hurricane Katrina with the Fukushima disaster for instance.)

My comments about Fukushima concern only that disaster and the subsequent aftermath and radiation contamination. I made no statement about the people themselves. I was merely curious as to whether there might be a chance of radiation contamination of products exported from areas of Japan where contamination has been found.

November 2, 2011 at 10:25 PM · Anyone want to talk about shoulder rests?

November 3, 2011 at 06:36 AM · japanese shoulder rests?

November 3, 2011 at 01:56 PM · I was going to ask that but thought better of it. lol

November 3, 2011 at 03:54 PM · We all gotta kick the bucket some time. Why not get it over with. Buy a Japanese car.

PS I drive a Honda. I'm still virile and cancer free.

November 3, 2011 at 07:05 PM · These people (Japanese) have dealt with more radiation problems than anyone else on the planet. They will be fine. There are also plenty of awesome pre-tsunami Konos all over the world; buy one of them if it concerns you that much.

November 4, 2011 at 12:11 AM · Greetings,

well, you can`t tell loonies anything I suppose. Follow some of the citations offere d as `proof` that Tokyoites are turning into mutants and you will find the sources are for want of a better word `twitter based personal hysteria type things.` Also look at the map and note the differnece between Tokyo and er `4o miles from Tokyou...`

Does anybody honestly belive radiocative sludge is being dunped in Tokyo bay? Oh really?

Funny how that one keeps disappearing.

Nor is it true that radioactive waste is being burned and the smoke released into the atmosphere. Do you really think anyone could get away with that one? The problem her eis where to put the radiocative waste, both from the tsunami and the millions of tons of topsoil which villages are being forced to store anywhere they can.

Incidentally, the rest of Japan is so paranoid about this issue they won`t accept fireworks manufactured in the region in case they release anything into the atmosphere.

What was written, lumping togther as it did, `The Japanese` as uncaring off their children while familes are uprooted and struggling from relative to relative after leaving the exclusion zone; of those with no where to go who cannot let their children play outside; while families break up under the stress, fathers commit suicide to get insurance money for their family; fathers stay near the region while sending their families away...

It`s just sickening.

All I would recommend to everyone is if you see a concrete VSO on ebay labbeled `Maker : Garecki. Dai Ichi Genpatsu (sorry Gengakki)...

then don`t buy it ;)



November 4, 2011 at 12:24 AM · now buri, the way you type, when did that start again?

November 4, 2011 at 02:39 AM · Tokyo to become dumping ground for radioactive rubble from Fukushima disaster

Tokyo to begin burning massive amounts of radioactive waste from disaster area — Burns will continue for at least 2.5 years, until March 2014

[Where do you think the radioactive smoke is going to go? All over Japan and the world.]

Japan allows triple amount of cesium in food than Chernobyl did — Over 50% of store-bought seafood samples contaminated with radiation

Do you eat rice?

Radioactive Rice "Far Exceeding" Safe Levels Found in Japan

"Urine samples taken from 10 children in the capital of Fukushima prefecture, were analyzed in a French laboratory. All of them contained caesium-134. The sample of an eight year old girl contained 1.13 becquerel/liter. The kids were living up to 60 kilometers away from the troubled nuclear power plant."

--JAIF (1 July 2011) Radiation detected in Fukushima children's urine

November 4, 2011 at 03:07 AM · @Stephen: Are you an agent or employee of the Japanese government? Do you receive any monies from the Japanese government for your services here?

"Radiation levels as high as those in the evacuation zone around Japan's Fukushima nuclear plant HAVE BEEN DETECTED IN A TOKYO SUBURB."

--Mark Willacy, Tokyo, Tue, 25 Oct 2011


Over 266 citations straight from Wikipedia relating to the Fukushima nuclear disaster and its affect on Japan and the world: Radiation effects from Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster

November 4, 2011 at 03:31 AM · Greetings,

no I am paid agent of North Korea who is trying to undermine Japan by reverse psychology.

The trouble with your looney ramblings is that you have no sense of time or space. For example, you cite articles about radiation levels in rice that is grown near the Fukushima power plant. Does thatmean the rice I eat from the other end of Japan is radioactive. Er, no. Does anyone eat this radioactive rice. Er, no.

Is Japan dumping radioactive sludge in Tokyo Bay? What kind of sludge? Where did it come from? Utter tripe.

Then you cite recent news that Tokyo is to `begin.` burning radiocative waste. You see that word `begin.` It means that it hasn`t started yet. I don`t know what drugs you are on to not understand these simple things, but hang ibn there.

On a more positive note, i agree with your fears and those of the people living in Tokyo that it is utterly stupid and scary to start stock@piling radioactive garbage in sites around the capitoal which also prone to major earthquakes. I imagine the protests will be enormous, and rightly so. The simple truth is nobody know what to do with this horrible stuff but the people who claim it is -aleady- being burned etc. know nothing of the subject. The next move in all probability is the new look yakuza getting contracts and dumping the stuff in Cghina. That is very much on the cards.

Things are a complete mess, the Government does manipulate and lie, dangerous waste will be treated illegally. You are right. But get the reality of here and now first please before making these inappropriate and hysterical comments that , on checking the actually articles don`t support what you say.

PS I am hoping for a raise form North Korea for all this hard work. Don`t know how to ask for it without getting shot though...


Glow in the dark Buri.

November 4, 2011 at 03:40 AM · @Stephen: Pot. Kettle. Black.

Most wouldn't consider the articles I've posted or scientists quoted within those articles as "looney" or "hysterical." I note that you haven't posted anything but your own opinion.

It's a stretch to characterize the 266 citations at the Wikipedia page I posted above as "looney" since most, if not all, originate from solid sources.

Other than your own ramblings and opinion do you have any sourced information that would refute even one of the articles I've cited? Feel free to message me privately if you wish.

November 4, 2011 at 03:58 AM · DISPOSAL OF QUAKE DEBRIS BEGINS

"Work to dispose of debris from the quake-ravaged city of Miyako, Iwate Prefecture, BEGAN THURSDAY IN TOKYO with about 30 tons arriving on a train at Tokyo Freight Terminal, the first load from Iwate to be accepted by a local government outside the Tohoku region."

Workers check the radiation levels of tsunami debris from Iwate Prefecture THAT ARRIVED IN TOKYO ON THURSDAY morning. Officials said the results were well below the legal limit of 0.01 microsievert per hour.

November 4, 2011 at 04:00 AM · Sure. Just look at what you wrote. `Radioactive hotspots throughout Tokyou.` Not proven in one of your sources but One would think that ther e would be a major panic on with all those millions of people making a massive exodus if anyone otehr than you knew about it.

As I keep pointing out, the refernces you keep citing to scientifically prove me wrong are all good refernces except they are -not in= Tokyo or one off connected to wind and rain near the time of the incident.

. You write about radioactive sludge being burned as though some deliberate and horrible deceitful crime is being comitted behind the backs of the people of tokyou. Yet when I check your actuall refernces I find that sludge is indeed being dumped in Tokyou bay. But its not, as you imply, some scary plot, but rather the usual waste disposal. Yes, a radiation spike wa s detected soon after the crisis. Source: rainwater. Is it an ongoing situation? No. There is nothing wrong with supproting claims with dozens of citations from here to eternity. But to interpret them as you do, in a hysterical and incorrect manner is both irresponsible and morally wrong.

November 4, 2011 at 05:08 AM ·

November 4, 2011 at 10:34 AM · Hmmm, poster quotes wikipedia and trashes Buri, = not worth reading in the future. Just posting that because I have no doubt there are others who think the same way.

November 4, 2011 at 10:49 AM · tony, it seems to me that you just have to have the last say on a tangential issue that is dear to your heart, which is ok with a few on this site. there is utility in watching a train wreck, although inappropriate to many.

but be careful, because if you push over an invisible line repeatedly, the north korean secret agents may take you far way from this site. epic-ing in the middle of a forest won't be much fun if we don't hear you.

November 4, 2011 at 11:59 AM · Greetings,

just to clarify things a little though it sadly has no connection to violin playing or shoulder rests. Japanese people in general are absolutely scared out of thier minds about the possibility of burning debris and releasing radioactivity into the atmosphere.

Tokyo Government was only able to accept the debris on the condition that it would be burned or stored depending on whether or not it was radioactive. One of the sites quoted above is stating quite categorically that radioactive debris is going to be burned. This is not consistent with what is being said in all the mainstream papers and announcements form the Tokyou Met Gov. The newspapers report that the waste is tested before and after transportation .

The other source which seems to be quoted quite a lot is the Natural News site. I only took a quick look but one thing did catch my eye. It was stated with a great sense of drama that `whereas Chernobyl had only one meltdown, Fukushima had 3.` Presumably the message being one of shock and awe on an unheard of scale..

Read a litlte bit about meltdowns ( a very frightening word-cf China Syndrome) and things look a little different. There are less than full meltdowns for example. Furthermore, the crucial factor is containment by surrounding steel casing. In the case of Chernobyl this casing was either damaged or not present or whatever. Hence the massive extent of the fall out. The Fukushima rods have this containment therefore the whole scenario is different.

I am not remotely in favor of nuclear power but it is the sensationalist and inaccurate journalism which makes the issues so much harder to deal with.

I do think storing moderately radiocative waste in Tokyo is foolish. I do hate even the idea of burning debris and contributing yet more pollution to the atmosphere.



November 4, 2011 at 12:10 PM · the disaster in japan does offer some insight or the lack of...

old technology from the 50'-60' that requires cooling of the reactor...which means getting water pumped into the factory,,,which means needing power source for the pump,,,which means when the power source is gone/interrupted then reactor is not cooled anymore...by the sea, in quake area,,,

thankfully, the newer generation reactors do not need this type of cooling...

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