Music for seduction?

January 29, 2009 at 07:42 PM ·

In another thread, playing the violin was mentioned as a means to seduce -- women, in that case, but it's more fun to take it generally. For me, that immediately brought to mind Paganini's Caprice no. 21, and some other music, too. I wondered how many of us have associations like that. So, please name the violin piece, or pieces, or performance, that you associate with a scenario of seduction.

Replies (63)

January 29, 2009 at 08:52 PM ·

Schoenberg Phantasy

January 29, 2009 at 09:20 PM ·

Kreutzer #2... ( Like "stop it right now and I'll promise...") LOL


January 29, 2009 at 10:20 PM ·

Let me think.......   Vitalie Chaconne, Devil trill (tartini sonata in g minor) and of course Miakovsky second mvt.  But I make a clear difference between the seductivness of a piece and the one of the performer.  The most seductive sounds and interpretations I can think of come from persons with charming personalities but not typically seductive (in the sens we all think)!

By the way, do you know persons who really suceeded in seducing someone by their playing?  I hear more often about violinists who have been seduced by their instrument lol

Anne-Marie

January 29, 2009 at 11:00 PM ·

Greetings,

you can definit ely seduce wormen with the violin.  Unaccompanied Bach is -extremely- powerful in this regard. Thats how I met my ex wife.  The only people who tend to be immune are female violinists who march to the beat of their own vibrations.  Its a more sophisticated  version of `Sex in Ohio,`   -  Guadagnini vs. Blackberry if you like.

Cheers,

Buri

January 29, 2009 at 11:16 PM ·

I'd recommend the hungarian dances, accompanied by a puppy

January 29, 2009 at 11:36 PM ·

Aaron, did I heard the word puppy.   You really know what girls like!   A cute little puppy... is so adorable. I love puppies!  This definitivly works at least as well as the violin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To every men hear, listen to his advice, take a puppy a long with your violin!

Anne-Marie

January 29, 2009 at 11:53 PM ·

Anything played by Maxim Vengerov or Nikolaj Znaider...  <drool>

But throw in a puppy or kitten and I'll be less fussy.

January 29, 2009 at 11:55 PM ·

Actually, the wife of one of my violin teachers told me that she fell in love with him when she heard him play the Strauss sonata.

January 29, 2009 at 11:57 PM ·

Yees, yes , yes, puppy !!

January 30, 2009 at 12:31 AM ·

"Love Gun" by the ensemble Kiss. 

January 30, 2009 at 01:04 AM ·

Note to self,

Go buy 2 puppies

 

 

January 30, 2009 at 02:39 AM ·

A friend of mine claims to owe her existence to "Play Fiddle Play", a schlocky tune that her dad  taught himself to play while very young.  His church group once invited some other kids over for a friendly soccer game.  One female guest was appalled by the dismal goal tending of this dreamy young man.  Later the group lit a fire and the kid got out his violin.  The female guest changed her mind. 

January 30, 2009 at 04:29 AM ·

Oh Bart, this is a dangerous topic. Good for you to start it!

For me it was Wallfisch's Martinu's 2nd cello concerto and Holliger and Brendel's Schumann's 3 Romances (oboe and piano)....  Boy, that was confusing.

Rob, it's puppy, not two puppies:)

 

January 30, 2009 at 04:28 AM ·

Greetings,

two is just litter.

Cheers,

Buri

January 30, 2009 at 04:32 AM ·

How I wish I could come up with this punchline!

January 30, 2009 at 04:54 AM ·

Greetings,

you can claim to be my muse if you like.

Cheers,

Buri

January 30, 2009 at 05:02 AM ·

I'm gettin' three puppies, just so I have a chance against Rob.

January 30, 2009 at 06:35 AM ·

That'll be like spreading falsehood, Buri.  It's the other way around if anything.

Back to the topic, ladies, also watch out when someone is playing you Beethoven's Archduke piano trio 3rd mvt!

January 30, 2009 at 05:34 AM ·

OK, guys, puppies OR violin, not puppies AND violin...

January 30, 2009 at 05:44 AM · I'm going to train my puppy to play the violin. The kitten wasn't interested... something about the natural strings, I guess.

January 30, 2009 at 05:56 AM ·

Greetings,

it may have misinterpreted you saying you need a new tailpiece,

Cheers,

Buri

 

January 30, 2009 at 06:43 AM ·

Leg-kicking LOL \\D// !!

 

January 30, 2009 at 06:58 AM ·

I met my wife through music, but we are still not sure whether it was her singing that did it to me, or my playing that did it to her! She's a cat person, by the way.

Kreisler -- why did no-one mention him?

It's a pity that all this music is so difficult. Seduction does not stop once you're married: I'd better keep up my practice.

January 30, 2009 at 07:07 AM ·

Is it the music or the performer does it? Some beautiful mind does it, and books too.  Physical beauty is so weak in comparison. 

January 30, 2009 at 07:10 AM ·

I once dated a guy largely because I liked the way he played some of Bach's works for solo cello.  Slinkly jazz is effective, too.  By all means, avoid the love-death from Tristan und Isolde.

January 30, 2009 at 08:31 AM ·

I don't know if this is sleazy, but Massenet's Meditation is...wonderful for seduction.

On the flip side, I once developed a crush on a girl while she was playing the Bartok Concerto.  Sweltering piece (and girl).

January 30, 2009 at 09:32 AM ·

The Devil Went Down to Georgia

January 30, 2009 at 11:40 AM ·

How about the tango music of Astor Piazolla, accompanied by a puppy with a thornless rose in its mouth?

Of course, I've always been told its not the size of the concerto you play, but how well you execute the runs.

January 30, 2009 at 01:36 PM ·

My answer is three puppies plus either the Walton violin sonata, first movement, or the Prokofiev second violin sonata. (the former in the recording by Daniel Hope, the latter by F.P. Zimmermann).  

January 30, 2009 at 01:55 PM ·

Now if one puppy will get you one women, and two will get you two....

Hey David, you sure you can handle 3 puppies at your age? :)

 

 

January 30, 2009 at 04:49 PM ·

Rob, you must be better looking than I. It takes me three puppies just to get one woman, and then only if she's inebriated. ;-)

However, I've heard that you folks in Canada have nothing else to do during the harsh winters, so you might have an advantage there.  :)

I say "git-er-done" while you can. Global warming will soon spoil the party.

January 30, 2009 at 02:44 PM ·

La Cumparsita! 

January 30, 2009 at 03:30 PM ·

what in puppies is lacking in men?   wait, wait, let me get a pencil and a pad.

January 30, 2009 at 03:34 PM ·

Al, puppies can generally be trained to do anything they are asked to do.  I've been told that we men are untrainable.  I've also been told that men don't listen, but I usually don't hear that part.

January 30, 2009 at 04:16 PM ·

January 30, 2009 at 04:16 PM ·

I fell in love with a fellow camp student when I heard him perform Brahms' 2nd sonata.  Never been seduced by the violin since.

Nowadays all it takes is a good counter-tenor and a decent lutenist.

January 30, 2009 at 05:00 PM ·

No puppies here, please. Not all women are dog lovers.

Kittens, okay, now we're talking. : )

And hearing Korngold's third movement of "Much Ado About Nothing" - maybe called "In the Garden"? {{Happy sigh....}} Or Dvorak's Romance in F minor, but you'd need to bring along an orchestra to really make it work, and that tends to crowd the living room. But, hey. It would really impress a woman. Or frighten her.

January 30, 2009 at 05:39 PM ·

Hey , now that I stay to think about it , once I gained the attention of a boy after playing the Mendelssohn Concerto. And I also remember once , about 3 years ago, I really liked a classmate after hearing him play Tartini's Devil Trill .  :)

 

January 30, 2009 at 06:07 PM ·

"Counter-Tenor"     ugh , ugh   please allow me to go bury myself in the snow  !   Wait,I already am buried in snow !

My  choice      :   Blue Skirt Waltz    OR   the Dvorak  Romance.

Sorry Marina;I still love you though !

 

January 30, 2009 at 07:25 PM ·

My puppies (4) have fallen in love with the violin (they ALL sing) along so that's how I link the fiddle and fido...

January 30, 2009 at 08:27 PM ·

Piazzolla's 'Oblivion'..... 'nuff said

 

although I must admit I'm with Pauline on the guys-playing-Bach-Cello-Suite thing.. (on cello.).. *whoop!*

January 30, 2009 at 09:21 PM ·

Rob, you must be better looking than I. It takes me three puppies just to get one woman, and then only if she's inebriated. ;-)

 

David,

Maybe you just need a longer bow!

and be a little more gentle with your vibrato,

d;^)>

 

 

 

January 30, 2009 at 11:07 PM ·

Come to think of it, back when I was in college in China 25 yeas ago, I did get quite bit of attention from a young prof (whom I had a bit of crush) shortly after he heard me playing Ciprian Porumbescu’s Balada.

As to the puppy or kitten thing, I love them both especially if they are mine. Nothing turns me off more than seeing a guy doesn't train his dog the way I'd like to see, the way you'd treat a dolphin. So here goes away a lot of male dog lovers:)

January 30, 2009 at 11:36 PM ·

I just play anything, scales, etudes,  whatever, from the front seat of my Ferrari Enzo or the Bugatti Veyron. Works every time.. The music doesn't even have to be in tune.

January 31, 2009 at 12:00 AM ·

funny! I have heard than violin makers too have nothing else to do between repairing two violins!

Anne-Marie

January 31, 2009 at 01:10 AM ·

On one occasion as we were returning to the stage I heard the band leader say in very clear voice..........

"The fiddle player is married with two children!!!".

And we were only playing folk songs and dance tunes.

Another time while busking in the city when I was playing Liebeslied there was a lady who was very appreciative, but I think this was more nostalgic for her rather than seductive.

Once a lady commented on my playing................"You make that violin talk"................

And the man who said..."nice to hear the violin".....I like to think he meant I was playing well?

And I was just jamming away to the pop songs they were playing.

Many people don't say anything, but I can see in their eyes something is stirring up........

So I think it does'nt matter what you play as long as you play it with passion....:-)

 

 

 

January 31, 2009 at 10:19 AM ·

Anne-Marie Proulx wrote:

"funny! I have heard than violin makers too have nothing else to do between repairing two violins!"

_________________________

True, perhaps. But since it's risky to have puppies in the shop, one can see that opportunities are limited. All that passion must be re-directed into our work,  resulting in the outline of the violin which resembles the female figure.

Kind of tragic, isn't it......  :-(

January 31, 2009 at 08:35 PM ·

That's sublimation. Just like us v.commers.

I'd like to share this song, though not violin music.

And the Habanera from Carmen!

January 31, 2009 at 02:51 PM ·

For the Full Monty, how about Scherazade? A tempestuous foreign voyage across the sea, the romance of the young Prince and Princess, oriental lands, shipwreck, circuses and festivals. It's completely over the top.

January 31, 2009 at 02:57 PM ·

it's spelt "sheherazade"

January 31, 2009 at 03:29 PM ·

Actually, it's Scheherazade.

January 31, 2009 at 03:34 PM ·

depends on where you look, but there definitely is a "he" after the "she" or "sche" ;-) 

January 31, 2009 at 04:10 PM ·

What's wrong with counter-tenors?

January 31, 2009 at 04:21 PM ·

Bolero is always good. Johnny Mathis is also a winner. Maybe Mathis humming Bolero?

January 31, 2009 at 05:00 PM ·

Damn, how did I miss the 'he' in Shazza.

And hands off Bolero. It's been a firm favourite over here, ever since Torvill and Dean got an Olympic gold medal for getting down on the ice.

January 31, 2009 at 09:38 PM ·

Marina,

Counter-Tenors are doomed from the very beginning.....They are few and quite far between.....

I can say with certainty that a counter-tenor will not host a Live from the Met Opera Quiz in your lifetime....

Granted,one may hear o counter-tenor occasionally--or seldomly in a lifetime...Their roles and their voice do not flow with the rhythm of the waves  and their voice serves only to be an obstruction to the barriers of a difficult  and arduous voyage of life -- therefore,they may be shunned or to be shown benign neglect in their difficult craft...Personally,I will not make a space for them---their voice misrepresents that of a man... Yet,I am not corrupted enough to enable a counter-tenor no rung to bestep upon.

 

February 1, 2009 at 12:54 AM ·

Touche. I guess it's like Tschaikovsky and Tchaikovsky.

Russians just don't know how to be consistent.

February 1, 2009 at 02:00 AM ·

Oh, David it's so sad I could post this to Hollywood and they could make a movie or a book titled: The poor violinmaker who was forced to direct his feelings towards his violins only lol (you would become rich with this :)

Maybe you can give a scrap violin you hate to the puppy so it makes its teeth on it and leave the other violins clean! (or make a little fence with scrap bows so it stays in the corner!) Like this, you have the best of the two worlds! After all, my violin maker attaches her tomato plants in her garden with scrap bows!

Anne-Marie

February 1, 2009 at 02:28 AM ·

Way too practical for a French-Canadian woman. Maybe you are actually German?  ;-)

February 1, 2009 at 03:39 AM ·

Debussy's Sonata is H-O-T!

February 1, 2009 at 05:43 PM ·

Oh, I am 1/4 english canadian but I think it is a side effect of my science program at college...  But, I think as a violinist of any level, you have to be practical in some way! A well mastered technique is what is needed to produce artistry! But of course, you also have to hear it in a beautiful way in your head before!  To be in the topic, you have to be seduced by what you hear in your head before playing it.  Sucess in playing well it is another story!

Anne-Marie

February 1, 2009 at 11:33 PM ·

Oh, how I hate to do this, but for another discussion thread a long, long time ago, I wrote (with maybe one different word) the following:

The music of de Sarasate
Can be used to seduce any hottie.
You don't have to ask,
Just play Caprice Basque,
Light some candles and serve a hot toddy.

:) Sandy

February 1, 2009 at 11:36 PM ·

Greetings,

with all due respect Marcus,  the last line shopuld actually read:

Light some candles and place on yer bottie

That also resolves the problem of `frozen t###ds` that someone mentioned in a recent thread.

Cheers,

Buri

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