My 12 y/o son started in a beginner strings class in mid-September 2007. In July 2008 he started private lessons at his request. In September 2008 he auditioned for our local (small) youth string orchestra and was accepted as first chair in the second violin section. In January 2009 he (and all the seconds) was moved up to first violin section. At the beginning of June he was fill-in principle at the Spring concert (our principle was our of town).