May 10, 2007 at 5:30 PM
Hi folks, Anyone have the whole story about the fight that transpired last night at a Boston Pops concert??? There was a small bit about it in our Omaha paper, but it didn't say much. Keith Lockhart even had to stop the performance briefly while the two men involved were escorted from the balcony. Goodness, what is this about?? A fight at a Symphony concert---I have never heard of such a thing. I would love more information, and comments. Thanks! Molly[Links from the comments - Editor]
I'm cracking up, that it made the Weird-Herald (my old employer). You have to tell me if they write an editorial, I just feel it in my bones, that they just might...
(I guess Levine falling off the podium wasn't enough...)
It is a pretty well heeled audience that Boston Pops draws. Boston Pops is Boston Symphony minus principals, again according to reuters.
Ihnsouk
Betcha one of 'em was drunk...
I know I would be. :)
Neil
I'm really not interested in laughing at these people while I would make money from them coming to a concert, I think they really need help and music is supposed to supply that!
Seems to be the explanation for it.
Come on, now. Surely you can understand that my comment was not a serious suggestion, but a statement intended to poke fun at all the press this silly story is getting. I don't think violence is funny, nor do I condone the behavior. People have not been behaving themselves for a long time, though. I just think its funny that the mainstream press thinks concertgoers are some other kind of being other than human. I think all the publicity is silly.
That was the intent of my "joke". This story is really making the rounds. You would have thought it was the premier of "Sacre du Printemps"!( Hmmm...its happened before...)
By the way, I can appreciate a good straight, hard-hitting opinion as long as its fair. If its unfair, I may or may not speak up about it. However, one thing is for sure ...I probably won't get into a fistfight over it in a concert or anywhere else...
Cheers!
(Egad, I'm giving an academic lecture on humor. More absurdist collisions anyone!?)
Take a dose of Jaroslav Hasek (he wrote "The Good Soldier Svejk") and try not to take absolutely *everything* so seriously...
Jim, for the record, I'm not trying to claim any "moral high ground" here.
It's exactly the whole "climate" of such things which disturbs me and I can't really find humor in them anymore. Call me jaded but that's the way I have become.
That something like that gets in the media, that it could even be a publicity stunt and that any people would get their jollies out of it from any side to me is sick.
"Fight breaks out at Symphony concert"
"Old lady beats up young College Jock."
"George Bush (or Bill Clinton) save last flower of spring from being trampled by crowd of hyenas invading city."
And in the mean time no one knows what is really going on in Iraq, they don't know what is really going on in Africa, South America, what's in their food, their water, their air etc.
But the know WHO the bad guy is!
I'm glad we're on the same track about the recents wars. I guess I respond differently.
I wholeheartedly agree about the media distracting people from real issues though--good God, if I see one more "Breaking News!!!" segment about what celebrity was spotted making out with what other celebrity at a party, I am going to vomit. Or run off to Transylvania, either one.
I would say that the music actually (as an organism) functions to let the guy who got violent find out who he is so that he doesn't get insulted when someone simply tries to point out that he might get something out of listening to the music.
I was at a concert of Sarah Chang and there were two people behind me talking (this is a social thing folks, where are the martinis). I had so enough of it that I turned around got right int he guys face and asked him "Are you scared of the music or something that you have to talk through it?" They stopped talking but then as soon as I moved over (I could see Sarah better) they started again (as if you know like everyone talks as soon as the music starts and if someone actually is bothered by this they are just difficult).
I would think that non violence and the music itself would solve the whole problem in Boston but with the media making a sensation out of anything that has that adernaline rush (and heh you get in the paper when you attack someone at a symphony concert), and the whole rest of the circus
Tada, it's a circus and I find it disturbing rather than funny.
If I would articulately go along and list all the levels where the problem isn't dealt with (and I don't think putting someone in jail (where they would truly learn how to intimidate people helps): I guess it's better to laugh or pray about it.
I'll check out that writer:
By the way, there is a Hungarian bus driver here in the city who lived down the street from Kodaly as a boy and also was a friend of Louis Armstrong
I truly think music and art have the ability to get a person in touch with who they really are to such a degree.
well I can't tell you that already
Go sing this to that Hungarian bus driver for me--if he was Kodaly's neighbor (which is awesome, btw) he'll recognize it. :)
"minds/souls of our great geniuses, which ordinary mortals can strive towards its example, or something"
Don't you know the greatest Geniuses are the biggest fools and jerks (there you have the "mortals" already) because all they did is find out that (heh you walk in there were everyone says you're crazy to try and things work by themselves).., sort of perhaps works like that if you know what I mean.
There's yet to be any great genius who created their own brain. Instead it was evolution, something we are all part of. Some people just go (and in the beginning were maybe forced or sort of fell into after being thrown out of "society" or simply couldn't fit) into those spaces of the brain where others are scared to go and are biased against.
And there's no going back...
There biggest addiction which is not addicting
You might find a God but realize "he's" not perfect!?
I think that's a good line anyhow
"Maybe there is a God but I don't think he's perfect."
Anyways, thanks for the song and it really makes me laugh about "geniuse."
People have said this to me that I'm a genius (people say lots of things blah blah blah) and in the end I have to say that there is a part of me that people would call crazy which instead really needs careful attention and for God's sake the space to find out what it itself is doing and all about. Those are things the brain does by itself though:
Um, when allowed to
Do you know Unigenite (Unique in latin I think is related to genius)
Jesu Christus Unigenite from Mozart's mass in C minor?
And Wolfgang left out right where the stuff about the crucifixion starts.
I also believe Unigenite is something which deserves to be mortal and have a full life on the earth rather than being made to feel so alienated that it makes alliances with how to get out of here.
"Great Geniuses" huh
I hear the Bassoons already and it seems to be rather dusty but there's a nice scene on the other side of the window and in his room looking out, it's a nice Genius with soft cheeks
Everyone is a Genius, we are all Unique.
Certainly if anyone ever called me a Genius and it is at all applicable it MUST be true.
You Must be patient
You Must believe it
MUST MUST MUST
I sure write a lot....
M U S T
TS um
muTS
Ts tS Muum
um TS!
Anyway, I'm going to go listen to A kilenc csodaszarvas (also known as Cantata Profana) to clear my head, and then I'm going to bed. Cheers.
I just think it's kind of funny, like when people talk about God like he's some kind of poof up there
The word has just become funny to me:
I might liken it to blessed are those who try to smell those poor little flowers (the little stinking things being the geniuses)
Now it's really time for bed!!!
sniff sniff
I wouldn't describe "geniuses" like Bach, Brahms, Bartok, Liszt, Chopin etc. as "little stinking things".
Little "stinky" flowers are incredibly beautiful things, humans (or societal clones rather) on the other hand are more interested in the smell of burning flesh they are going to eat or new cars.
And I'm not going to go on about this any further. I don't spend hours making sarcastic jokes about really disturbing things on internet blogs and then being resentful that someone actually goes deeper with the issue. It seems that when people aren't making apathetic humor more important than really looking at what is going on that they are then labeled as having a personality disorder.
I never said you mentioned God I used it as a comparison...
Good DAY!
To me, this whole incident expresses a whole rift there is in society, where there is violence and reoccurring incidents where people get violent or are mesmerized with violence for the most petty reasons. This goes along with the whole new craze in Big Time wrestling or the success of the Jerry Springer show. To me, such incidents point out an incredible lack in society, that it is not able to deal with the simplest parts of the human condition or the need for identity or self worth. Music (or art, or an open mindedness which allows for understanding of what a person is trying to express rather than their awkwardness in trying to express it) all these things would help change the climate in society and would prevent people from getting violent.
I myself really think it would be helpful if there was a more integral response than just laughing it all off (or perhaps it's necessary to laugh at it because it's so ridiculous that one doesn't know how to respond and then laughing at it helps the mind to make something out of it). But I do think it's a little shadow of many things that need attention.
Good DAY to you too, sir.
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