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David Wilson

dumb photos

February 9, 2009 at 8:04 PM

What really annoys me recently are publicity photos of  violinists, many of them brilliant and famous artists, who are holding their instrument in the most unlikely positions. Over their shoulder? Playing peek a boo from behind it? and other ridiculously cloying poses. Really bugs me, somehow.... Remember those old b&w photos of concert artists playing in 7th position on the G string? Yeesh!


From Stephen Brivati
Posted on February 9, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Greetings,

you`re right.  The thing that really (well not that much...) bugs me is all these cool chicks with no shoulder rest as though that`s how they always play. it is really misleading  for everybody and helps noone.  Irrespective of their utility the darn thingsare plug ugly so let it just hand oiut. Its importnat for kids to see what`s what.

Cheers,

Buri


From Anne-Marie Proulx
Posted on February 10, 2009 at 12:12 AM

Yes Buri, I have noticed that many players who play with shoulder rests in real life take them off for the pictures. Why don't they do a real portrait of themselves? But, who cares...  I just find sad that today you have to be more that just good. (I talk about soloists) The look is really important and in the history, the bests were not always the most handsome ones and yes today you can modify yourself with photoshop and that is another debate. The real vs the modify!

Anne-Marie


From Stephen Brivati
Posted on February 10, 2009 at 4:07 AM

Greetings,

I think you are mixing a couple of issue shere. The questionof tehnical veracity of player sin photographs is a litlte more serious than just deservign a `who cares?`   For example,  the publicity shots of Heifetz anecdotally at least,caused a number of wannabe players to adopt that kind of really high arm. When Heuifetz wa squestionned about it later he remarked that he had bene requested to pose thta way so that people could see his face.   As far as shoulder rests are cocnerned I have little interest in the debate itslef these days,  but yes, I think it is misleading when a violnist who uses one poses for a photo without one. I do think it is quite possible that someone may try and emulate suh a player to their own detriment.

It also connects upto some extent with the influence of mass media on the attitudes of students.  I do someitmes have studnets start doing weird things and on being queried they state that such and such a player did it so they copied it.  

The issue of selling an inferior talent with good looks is separate nd doesn`t bother me.   If don`t have the talent whikch is fortunate considering how i look.....

Cheers,

Buri


From Anne-Marie Proulx
Posted on February 10, 2009 at 10:16 PM

Oh, yes it is two quite different topics I mixed together.  When I was a beginner (I mean real beginner with absoluntly no idea of anything) I used to look pictures and was fascinated by the posture of people, their hold of the instrument and bow etc.  But, when I learned a little more things, I noticed that the persons in the pictures really take any poses possible (sometimes ridiculously showoff ones) and it is often really different from when they play.  They also change slightly their posture and hold of the instrument through the years like we all do due to technical changes, those who are in their growing up prossess, etc etc etc.   The videos are really best to learn than pictures even if everyone is so different and something can work for one and not work for another!

Intersting topic,

Anne-Marie


From Stephen Brivati
Posted on February 11, 2009 at 10:38 PM

Greetings,

> The videos are really best to learn than pictures even if everyone is so different and something can work for one and not work for another!

Very good point.

Cheers,

Buri

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