What would happen to the sound if F holes were on the side? (or Not present)
1. I was reading a 1980's book a long time ago on acoustics and it claims somewhere in it that violins in an engineering perspective should have the F holes on the ribs and rather not the top in order to send the sound the best to an audience.
I was wondering if any of you guys are like acoustical engineers that can verify on that.
2. That leads me to think, what if we had a hollow violin, but with no F holes for sound to escape directly through? Would it be a muted violin? After all, the ribs are thin enough for some sound to escape.
I've run across instruments with ff holes in the sides, as well as the back, and didn't detect any advantage. In every case I can recall, it was worse.
If the f holes were covered, I imagine it would be similar to hearing an electric guitar that isn't plugged in.
Why don't you buy a violin and cut some holes in the side with a drill and see how that goes. By the way the little triangular cuts in the middle of the f-holes are very important for certain overtones. This was discovered by Amati.
I have never heard that the notches have anything to do with sound, and personally don't think it's true. But having the F-shaped holes cut into the top plate definitely does influence the way the top plate vibrates, and therefore influences tone.
I met a guy who made a violin from a kit. He decided to be different and put the f-holes on the side. it sounded like Lieschen said, an unplugged electric guitar. Quiet and no tone at all.
The museum of the Stradivari International Violin Making School in Cremona exhibits a series of instruments without F-holes, with F-holes halved in length, and variations thereof. I believe they were part of an acoustics experiment by maker Peter Tartar, who taught at the school until the late '50s.
Aren't the f holes there to allow air the violin to move so that the plates are not inhibited in there vibration .
If the sole purpose of the f holes was to allow air to escape so the plate could vibrate freely, then one could place the holes just about anywhere, including the sides or back.
I was just kidding about the notches in the f-holes. LOL.
I'm not sure about the sound, but people would look at you strangely at rehearsals and concerts.
@Everyone I dunno about if putting on the sides would actually make it sound like an unplugged instrument. Search up Julius Zoller Violas (Or violins if he has those)
National Electric Violins were one of the earliest electric violins and featured no f holes in their design. The earliest ones reportedly had f holes, but a solid top reduced feedback, but also their acoustic sound levels. More information about them can be found at http://www.digitalviolin.com/Kislingbury.html
I think Carmen is correct about the need for the exchange of air to allow the plates to vibrate freely because the air volume inside must change when the plates vibrate and they cannot if the volume is kept constant or resisted by closing the volume.
Yes, but some - like Ovations - have those vents in strange places. Mind you, Ovation guitars are generally intended to be used with a pickup, which gives a good acoustic sound without having to worry as much about feedback on stage. And the plastic back makes a good salad bowl when you're not playing.
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