Has your bow hold evolved or changed over time?
I have recently changed my bow hold a little bit, but noticeable, after 2 years having one that I thought was the "definitive" bow hold, the right for me. I've changed the position of my index and middle finger, where they touch the bow and their shape.
I've been working on this new bow hold for two weeks and now it doesn't feel strange anymore.
So my question is:
Has your bow hold changed over time?
Did you think you had the definitive bow hold and suddenly one day you realized there was room for improvement?
Or even further... do you think the perfect bow hold doesn't exist and we must always find new ways to improve it?
Yes my bow hold has changed over time.
I was taught a beginner bow hold where the thumb rests on the outer edge of the frog (can't explain it any better) for a reason I don't understand. Then, my thumb had to be moved between the stick and the hair. My bow hold has also become more flexible. So yes, it has changed.
I had the same experience as Ella, but I have gone for several years without a teacher to correct me, I'm Sure it has changed from what I was originally taught.
No one spoke to me about bow hold for the entire time I had been hacking away up until my current teacher.
It's so exciting to adopt the attitude that every aspect of one's technique can be improved . Practising never gets tedious if you adopt an analytical and researching approach.
Yes. I now hold it at the heavy end.
Yes - several times.
More relaxed and supple by the day. Even if you're holding it well, you can always be holding it better. It's really like that about all things right hand/arm and the violin.
Which one? Oistrakh and others often varied within a piece. I find it useful although at this point, I don’t necessarily think about it as much as it’s automatic and depends on how I want to sound.
Yes, the main one was when I got my first serious teacher - she quickly spotted problems with my bowing and part of the solution was to change the bow hold.
My bow hold has never been stable (As in like, staying the same)
VK, If you haven’t yet, try embracing the Belgian, Russian, baroque, and other holds one at a time for long enough to be comfortable with them and learn their advantages and sounds.
It might be a mistake to ever call it a bow "hold" - it will be different at the frog, tip and middle. If anything, it probably needs to evolve to be more changeable. Also, the more bow strokes you learn, the more the various finger positions on the bow make sense. For example, the ability to be able to hold up the bow with the pinkie is very important, but it doesn't quite seem so important until you start doing things like spiccato, and for some students, that is when it starts to evolve better.
I keep going back to Simon Fischer as a reference for finger and hand flexibility, position, and control. IMHO a very good resource - both Basics and Bowing DVD.
Has my bow-hold changed? Oh Yeah! Age, injuries, and what feels like arthritis have changed the way I hold the bow, play the violin as well as other aspects of my life. Unfortunately, the right hand just isn't what it used to be. I still get a decent tone but,...
OK, there are some of you that have changed the bow hold because of age/injuries. I mainly asked this question for those bow hold changes that are not caused by accidents or age, but because you decided to.
Am I going to jinx myself if I answer? On cello and French bass bow (German trained), I currently have to use a rubber frog cover because of an as of yet underdeveloped thumb that gets really tired playing multiple hours. (It’s a muscle development issue as I’ve been recently trying to get cello technique up to my violin/viola level of reading)
Yes, I changed style slightly 2times in half year. From almost academic franco-belgian to more free franco-belgian with little-bit suzuki child method thumb :)
It's not a bow HOLD, it's bow dancing....
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