Good tone quality
Hi, I'm playing the Bruch concerto and de beriot etude no 20. Both of those pieces require good tones. Can someone tell me how to achieve a good tone. Thanks. Also can someone tell me the tempo of the Bruch concerto mvt 1.
Also, solo and ensemble is coming up and my teacher chose some solos for me and my friends. I got the Bruch Concerto 1st mvt. My friend got Concerto no 4 in d major by Mozart 1st mvt. And my other friend got the Lalo symphonie espagnole 1st mvt. Can you please rank the difficulty of these pieces? Thanks
I'm surprised that the teacher apparently hasn't concentrated on teaching good tone production long before the pupil tackles a major piece such as the Bruch. I remember my own teacher telling me right at the start of my studies that what an audience likes to hear from the violin above everything else is a good tone. Get a good tone then acquiring good intonation and other areas of technique will be that much easier.
What aspect of tone quality do you struggle with? In other words, what is bad about your sound quality?
Those are three difficult pieces to be just starting now with solo & ensemble coming up, unless you've all already been working on them (which I certainly hope is the case).
I'll answer with a question:
OP, just post a video. Otherwise a bunch of posters are going to give you speculative advice which you probably won't be able to use.
I'm not sure what posting a video will do to elucidate issues with tone quality. That seems to be an automatic response here. The tone coming through will be greatly affected by the recording device and the room.
A video is better than nothing. Especially with a very vague question.
Just the opening solo bit of the Bruch, call it 1 or 2 minutes long, shot using a smartphone and posted to YouTube, would be sufficient to understand the tone issues, I think.
Thx for the advice on tone quality but I don't need that. I think I was confused with something else.
Posting a video seems like a good idea. Hmmmm...I'll think about it. I'll probably post the link here. Should I play a 3 octave scale slowly? Or the beginning several lines of Bruch? Thanks.
You can play both items, and you could have the camera angled so that your face doesn't show. It's a good idea for us v.commers to see how you're playing (posture, position, etc) in addition to hearing you play.
I would *much* prefer to hear playing in the context of the Bruch than in the context of a scale. The tone in a scale is generally unvarying. In the Bruch, it's full of a range of colors.
Your point is valid, Lydia, but the OP requested "how to make a good tone," not "how to make a good tone on the Bruch." This makes me feel like he doesn't understand how to make a consistently solid tone in general, so I figured that'd be a nice place to start.
Good tone production is a balancing act of three major factors: bow speed, weight (or leverage) and the point of contact ("sweet spot") that are constantly changing. If it were easy everyone would play violin. After that there is the quality of the instrument, the set-up, choice of strings, choice of bows, choice of rosin, vibrato speed and width...
Getting a nice sound out of a violin requires concentration, but it does not require a whole heck of a lot of physical effort, thankfully, in comparison to other instruments. The physical effort required to get a big sound out of a violin has been minimized to the point that if it were minimized even more, playing soft could become a huge challenge.
Simon Fischer has a DVD called "Secrets of Tone Production" which I recommend to you very highly. He will show you how to combine pressure, sound point, and bow speed to maximum effect.
I agree with Lydia. The first a few bars of Bruch tells so much about one's tone production in that the subtle shades of colors and one's unique voice if one has will not so clearly displayed in playing scales or etudes.
I agree with Christian. The poster can't even define the issue in any meaningful way. Sure, if his bow is sliding all around or something really obvious, then a video can help. Getting a nice tone is a long-term project, and my hunch is that people that think about it a lot are ones that take the steps to examine their own playing and do the necessary work.