How to fix whistling E-string?
I have the problem that sometimes my E-string (steel) is whistling. Feels just terrible, especially in solo parts... I couldn't guess so far what is the reason for it, just occured occasionally.. maybe some of you had already similar experiences.... I really would like to fix it and know how I could prevent the E-string from whistling.
#1 there is no finger touching accidentially, so no flagolett
#2 occurs mainly when crossing string from another string or when touching the string, like with spiccato bow, so does not produce full sound but whistling.
#3 is it the bow? maybe not straight bowing? or to fast? or not enough rosin?
#4 why only E-string?
#5 i heard there are "non-whistling" E-Strings available, do they fix the problem?
#6 could different strenght of the E-String fix it
Would be great if someone had similar experience and fixed it! thanks in advance!
What brand/make/gauge is your e string?
My personal recommendation (what has seemed to work for me) is to order every single E string on the market, and try them all. E strings take almost no time to break in, so you can go through quite a few in a day. You might have to spend 100 or so dollars, but that's not that bad to fix a whistle. Clearly, the first choice you should experiment with is the Warchal Amber E. But that won't necessarily work, so if it doesn't, keep trying other strings. Trying all sorts of Es is my first advice, since you shouldn't have to take 50% of your mental energy just to avoid whistling. With that said:
Excessive rosin buildup might cause whistles and squeaks.
My understanding was that the string gets set in a torsional mode of vibration rather than back and forth, and that heavier or wound e strings can have fewer problems because they would tend to have more damping in that mode.
I have heard that wound E strings are more resistant to whistling. Also - I've had no whistling since I started to use Thomastik Peter Infeld (PI) Platinum plated E strings.
I agree about wound E's - and I much prefer the tone..
I suggest that you try either the Warchal Amber E, or the aluminum-wound Tonica E. Most fiddlers of my acquaintance, who do lots of fast string crossings from the A string to open E, swear by the Tonica. My own preference as a classical violinist who also plays traditional Cape Breton & Scottish fiddle, is for the richer sound of the Warchal string, and I find it reduces the amount of whistling about 95%. (You are obviously aware of bowing issues and finger touching the string as among the causes.)
Only issue that I've found with that solution, Adrian, is that it does prevent the E from "sweetly singing" in the best way. So I consider it a last resort from other solutions.
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I don't see how that's possible, since the vibration is transferred to the body via the bridge.
On a few different violins, I've preferred the Eudoxa wound E to the Tonica wound E. Similar feel and response, but a bit more brilliant.
I agree with the others on trying a wound E. Worked for me, and I like the tone.
The very first thing to try when you get a whistle is to pull your bow hand back so that your bow goes slightly crooked. Most of the time, changing the angle of the bow will solve the immediate problem.
You can also give the Kaplan no-whistling E a shot!
I use a Warchal Amber E and do not get whistling. But, I'm just a lowly adult returner amateur!
"My personal recommendation (what has seemed to work for me) is to order every single E string on the market, and try them all..."
Whistling E -string, happens, for me, when moving from the A-string to the open E on a down-bow slur. The up-bow slur or separate bow adds enough force to prevent it. the other cause is if a finger, usually the first, is slightly touching the open E. I have also read that it is torsional, longitudinal spinning. The twist on the Warchal Amber E prevents it. Ditto on wound E-strings.
I seldom whistle but the few times I do is when playing certain songs in the key of E.
Amber e string has worked well for me.
A Warchal Amber E, on a properly-adjusted violin, will almost certainly prevent whistling. It's by far the best E string that I've used in that regard, and it's got a great sound, too.
I did order a set of Warchal Amber strings on sale Black Friday but they are not in stock to be sent to me yet. Amber is the only Warchal string type which I have not tried yet. When the Amber E first came out I saw a picture of it and there is a zig zag or saw toothed pattern in the bowing area of the string which straightens out and disappears as the E string is tuned up to tension. I do look forward to trying the Ambers in 2018. Warchals are great strings at a great price.
It's actually a spiral. You can see the twist when the string is at full tension. Best e-string I have tried for sound.
My bet is that you should try to fix your technique before exploring various E strings. For me, the obvious cause was lowering my elbow as I was pulling the string. The fix, lower and stabilize the elbow and then pull the string, hence avoiding creating lateral oscillations of the string in different directions, which cancel each other. Only happens on the E string because you can't go down enough on other strings. I suppose you could make your G string whistle in the same fashion on an up bow in theory, but we rarely over elevate our elbow as we're pushing the string.