whats the difference between 80$ violin 150$ violin and 400$?
I am 16 and started saving money to buy a really cheap violin.I cant save enough money that easily, because my family isnt that rich, so, in two months I can raise 80 dollars.Now I wanna know if it is worth it to buy an 80, or an 150, or wait enough time to get a 400 dollar violin.Also I will just play in my free time so I wont go even close to proffesional.Answer me if you can please.
How pretty the wood is and the set-up.
I would avoid the 80 dollar one, because the quality will be terrible, and it might discourage you from playing.
so for just my free time would a 150 dollar violin would be good or a more expensive one?
I would get the most expensive you can afford within that range. Wouldn't go any higher for a beginner though.
The difference between an $80 violin and a $150 violin is $70.
Good idea from Paul. If you can save $80 in two months, and at least around me you can rent a decent violin for about 30 dollars a month, renting may be your best option.
I started playing two years ago with a $100 violin, which worked fine. If you still aren't sure whether to pursue playing in the long term, $100 is a good enough investment.
I would recommend saving for the $400 one. The cheaper instruments are only going to be violin shaped objects that you will regret purchasing. The only exception if you found a good student quality instrument on craigslist and you took someone knowledgeable with you to look at it.
I paid $400 for my current violin. When it was made it was worth about $1200. I was able to get it that cheap because the varnish was in terrible shape. My guess is that it was someone’s first violin. The wear marks are very weird.
If I remember correctly, Laurie wrote a blog about the minimum acceptable price for a violin a few years ago and she recommended $300. So I think $400 violin is a good entry level instrument. Hope this helps.
The cheapest violin I'd ever get would be a good decent violin for about $250. You know prices can vary a lot, so those $250 could become $180 or $300 depending where you are, temporal discounts, etc...
150 - 80 = 70
Go to Amazon and get a Mendini 300 for $66. Go to Ebay and get Opera Perlon strings for $5, clip on tuner for $4, Hill's peg dope for $6 and an extra bow for $4. Then go to Fiddlerman.com for all the beginner tutorials. Then have fun.
A student of mine came to a lesson last week with a violin he had bought at the Salvation Army store for $75.-- It was certainly not a Strad, but not awful either; he likes it better than his current violin, which cost several hundred dollars. There are strange opportunities out there to get violins at low prices, but it's a matter of great luck and knowing what you're doing to get a bargain.
I remember that around 8 years ago lots of people said never buy a violin for under $1000. 4 years ago this number was reduced to $500. With the trajectory of beginner violin price being somewhat like computers', now one could hear that an entry-level playable violin only costs round $100. In fact, one could even watch such thing being tested and endorsed by someone like Fiddlerman on YouTube.
$70 and $320!
I want to recommend you look at the violins at Sharmusic.com. They are a very reputable company for lower end violins.
Who said that thing about $1000 violins?
If you are in the states, look for used violins on Craigslist.
"a good chosen violin for about $250 won't have any of those problems"
I did, the tone was fine, miles ahead from those $99 violins. The only problem was that the nut was not correctly carved and I had to pay $20 to a Luthier that finished it correctly, and also checked a little bit everything, although there was nothing to fix.
I agree the more expensive instrument should be somewhat better setup (slightly better strings, better bridge, nut etc.). That said, for a luthier to actually properly set up an instrument, it can easily cost $100+ in time and materials before markup, hence I find it highly unlikely that there would be much effort put on properly setting up a $250 instrument. It would negate whatever little profit there is to make in such instruments.
Thanks for the answers.Now I know what to actually look at a violin and what does the more expensive one have that makes it better than the cheaper one.
Roger, we're talking about minimum decent violins, and those can be found at $250.
In my opinion, the better the violinist, the more they can do with a "bad" fiddle. Beginners need a certain minimum quality to be able to tolerate the limitations of playing an inferior instrument without having the technical knowhow and skill to make it sound decent.
Fiddleman isn't the only person who reviews cheap violins. Search YouTube you would find a lot more, in which the reviewer would show you each and every detail of how the violin comes out of the box, how the pegs hold, how the fingerboard is shaped, and how the bridge is cut.
As I've said,$99 or $150 is playing lottery, some may come with proper set-up, but most of them won't. I've seen in front of me 3 of these, all of them had really bad bridges and nuts, string height was not OK in any of them, and they all sounded dull and ugly. Yes, you can be lucky and get for $99 a decent violin that sounds bright and open and it's fine for a beginner, but chances are you won't. Also, the bows in those packs are horrible, and I've seen myself a bow that was not playable, it wouldn't turn anymore and the hair was still quite loose. You won't face those things in a $100 bow.
Someone who can save $80 might not reasonably be able to save $500.
He said he could wait to save $400, so reaching $500 isn't that big of a deal. Also, it's estimated that number, it could perfectly be $430 or so.
As others have said start by renting. This will give you time to save up and by the time you get to buying your own instrument you will be able to make more of an informed decision as you will hopefully know more about violins by then.
Honestly, I would rent a violin before buying an $80, $150, or even a $400 violin. Renting would provide you with a much higher quality instrument for a lower up-front investment. Also, many rental agencies will provide insurance, which (I would assume) no sub $500 instrument would come with.
Most rentals are $300-500 instruments if even that, renting violins is a high risk business, how do you ensure that everyone pays, you certainly can't do it without taking credit cards, but its easy to cancel a credit card or just have no money on your debit card. So basically the store doesn't want to take much risk on losing the violin, so they rent violins that are so cheap, they can afford to lose a few. One of the reasons I don't do rentals.