Finally, I'm getting close to college auditions.
I'm looking at three colleges for either violin performance, music education, or a double major with both.
Ball State University
All of these are based in Indiana.
Mt rep that I have to pick from is the following:
Mozart Concerto No. 3 (ALL)
Kabalevsky Concerto Mvt. 1
Bach D Minor Allemande and Sarabande
Handel Sonata in E Major (No. 6 I believe)
Kreutzer Etude No. 6 (but I can probably do another one if need be)
I have an idea about what I want to use for each school. I know for IU i will not likely get in for performance, which is why I'm trying for education instead, and hopefully I can switch majors sometime after getting a lot better. But the other schools I am much more confident about auditioning for performance at. I was wondering what I should use. I know what level each school is looking for, but I don't know what to use. My teacher said it is ultimately up to me what I think I can best perform. I want to know if anyone could give me an idea of what would be best to use, and if anyone can give some advice/tips about college auditions.
Choose the repertoire that most clearly demonstrates your strengths. Your teacher should be able to explain the pros and cons of each choice. If different schools have different repertoire choices, your teacher should also be able to explain the implications of playing different rep at different schools (since it's more music to prepare).
I have not done trial lessons yet nor have I really asked my teacher too much about that stuff, but I am planning on that.
You can search the site for similar threads. Also, I don't advise you to play repertoire you hate (excluding etudes).
You're starting your junior year, right? You're not learning new repertoire this year in preparation for auditions next year? That seems somewhat odd.
Lydia's advice is excellent, but you might also look around for FB groups or websites for violinists (or music majors in general) at your preferred schools. Current students are your best source of information for future schools.
I'm starting my senior year. I do have a friend who is a freshman at Ball State. I have talked to her, and that is why I am very confident about auditioning there.
What are your longer term, post-college plans?
Jacob's background and ambitions were discussed in a previous thread:
I have thought quite a bit about it. I'm not 100% certain what I really want to do. I think I'll do performance, but if that doesn't turn out to be what I want to do, I'll switch to education. I would really like to double major in both though.
Performance is a hard and risky road for even the most polished students to embark on, and you're starting from way behind.
If A and B are performance and music-ed, may I suggest that C and D should be something like chemistry and data analytics.
I agree with Mary Ellen. If you do performance, you're going down a risky path that is already saturated with talented students. Music Ed is fine if you are willing to move where the job is, and if you enjoy teaching in a classroom K-12 setting.
How difficult is it to go to IU for Education vs Performance? Do they expect the same level for the audition?
I don't know but when I was at IU 35 years ago, the Mus Ed students were respectable players. This would be a great question for current students.
Plenty of schools have the same audition requirements for a BM and BME (a quick Google search seems to indicate that IU is one of them) even if the expectations might be different. IU uses the phrase "major concerto", note.
Mozart 3 would usually count if not explicitly excluded. But, one needs to play it really well, which means one usually has some romantic concertos and/or paganini also in one's rep.
I have tremendous respect for the talent and lifelong dedication and sacrifice of the individuals who are my violin teacher and my kids' violin and cello teachers. After all, without them, we would not have such high quality musical education. However, were I one of them also, I likely would not be able to afford their services.
Paul, including the strings teachers?!
Aren't elementary-school music teachers usually generalists, teaching group singing, maybe some recorder, maybe some Orff? Where I am, the 5th grade strings are an after-school program taught by middle/high school orchestra directors and/or string specialists.
To the OP: according to the IU Jacobs School website, all applicants on violin for all programs (which I assume includes the BME) must submit a screening recording online no later than December 1 of this year for admission in fall 2018. Based on your posts here as well as your stated repertoire, I think it is extremely unlikely that you would be invited to do a live audition. I suggest you focus your efforts on the other two schools you mentioned, and keep an open mind for other fields as well. You're obviously bright and could succeed in a number of other majors.
My parents and teacher still want me to try. I personally don't think I will get past the screening. I am focusing on Ball State. I've talked to my friend who is a freshman there for performance. She isn't that much better than I am, so I think I'll be fine there.
In many rural and rural-ish areas such as Southwestern Virginia, there are no elementary-school string teachers. Music is a once-a-week, one-hour class, and all the classes in the whole school rotate through the same one teacher. All these percussion guys, they can play maybe a little piano, often a lot of marimba or vibes, they can finger a recorder or strum a guitar or play some bass. I don't see them playing string, woodwind, or brass instruments but come to think of it one of them plays the euphonium rather well. They're impressive guys actually, we're very fortunate to have them. The one who I've played some gigs with is a very good jazz drummer and vibraphonist. Nothing gets the kids going like having their teacher sitting behind his drum set laying down some kind of funky groove.
Jacob, with all due respect, if your teacher still wants you to try submitting a screening recording to IU, then I am wondering how much experience your teacher has with the professional world in general and with top music schools in particular.
Sounds like the teacher wants to be able to say they've had a student apply at IU.
I've heard that the guy who hires music-teachers in my local school district is a trombonist, and so he keeps hiring trombonists. :-)
Did the trombonist graduate from Central Michigan University? They used to have this amazing trombone ensemble.
"Music-ed teachers are frequently expected, especially at the elementary and even middle school levels, to teach all instruments, even in big wealthy suburban school districts."
Pretty much all the "instruments" in our local elementary schools are percussion, including mallet instruments -- basically marimbas and the like. So you can play make an acceptable sound and even learn a simple tune without really having any actual skill. Kids love banging on stuff.
And, some charter and private schools don't even require music ed degrees at all, and may take people with performance degrees, or freelancers without degrees. I wouldn't count on such a school necessarily existing in your area though.
Some of the private schools around here essentially have adjunct instructors who are freelancers / private teachers. That's part-time work, no benefits, which isn't usually the security that people are looking for when they get a BME and hope to land a full-time school job.
I’m in a sort of similar situation as you, but also largely different in that I am trying out for a few conservatories for performance but my plan A (or B for that matter) hasn’t been music. I’m also terribly aware of the fact that it’s unlikely that I will get past prescreening for most of them. I chose to tackle a nigh impossible task to put myself in a setting where I am forced to get better—that’s been the education philosophy with my parents and something I guess that just stuck with me as a person. I have set my goals not to get into those schools but to fix all of my major problems before the end of the year so I’m not laughed out of auditions (which I might well be!). Getting into the said conservatories is really just the cherry on top—for me.
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