Are BAM hoodies necessary?
Hi, I will be getting a contoured bam violin case. I have read mix review about plastic violin cases. However, living in raincouver canada, I need something waterproof. I commute via public transportation and a lot of walking. I currently own an oblong bobelock case (I love this case. But it is big and heavy. and being short, I imagine carrying it back pack style while holding a giant umbrella must be very uncomfortable). My question is, I believe that these bam cases are airtight and waterproof. So, what is the purpose of the additional exterior cover beside scratch prevention? since bam cases doesn't come with violin blanket, I guess I will need a violin silk bag?
Thank you in advance,
I have bam overhead and at least that one is airtight and waterproof. I'm assuming it should be the same as the contoured since it's in the same 'hightech' product line. Survived plenty of rain in Asia! I'm not sure if it needs a violin blanket inside. Perhaps yours might benefit from it since you have a bow inside. My case is just for the violin so it's safe by itself.
What ever case you use, make sure you got a blanket! Silk is rather thin to protect from falling bow frogs. They are even easy to make yourself if you dont want to buy one.
The cover is used to help keep the contents of the case at a uniform temperature. BAM cases are totally inadequate in this respect both in summer and in winter. If you must use a not-fit-for-purpose plastic case, then I would get the cover too.
I agree with Marc and Carlo.
I have an idea for bow spinners. When you turn the spinner away from 90 degrees to remove the bow, it starts beeping and/or blinking until you turn it back to 90 degrees. This will keep you from forgetting your bow spinner, thereby obviating the blanket.
I absolutely prefer plywood cases myself. Unfortunately, I have my violin lesson when my 3 year old is in preschool, then I will have my hands full by the time I pick him up from school.. usually one hand carrying some grocery and the other holding the kid's hand because he still has no concept of stranger danger and traffic danger. So living in raincouver, I will need to be able to strap the violin case backpack style without using an umbrella... and not worry about the violin being soaking wet... well, I think I will still worry anyways... but a little less
Both the Musafia Lievissima and the Riboni Unoeotto can be used with backpack straps. Both of them are also waterproof and likely to provide a more stable microclimate.
Won't water be able to seep through the zipper part in case of heavy rain?
Probably. In the case of heavy rain exposure for more than a quick dash from cover to cover you should put the case backpack underneath your overcoat and have an umbrella.
It's funny you mentioned that! The last time it was pouring rain all of the sudden here, I actually put my coat over my violin case. And had to carry grocery with one hand and holding my son's hand with my other hand. Someone who walked by me commented how she thought I was carrying a small child on my back hands free because of the way my coat draped over my violin case. Reason why I was looking for a waterproof violin case in case it rains suddenly.
Musafia cases, at least, come with a rain cover. I've walked some distance through drenching rain with one, without an umbrella, and didn't have an issue with water penetrating, despite completely soaking the cover. You can get waterproofing and something called WeatherGuard on the case as well, for extra assurance.
I bought some additional rain cover for $20 or something I always carry with me.
When I had the BAM shaped case before, I paired it with a Mooradian case cover with backpack straps:
I use a hiker's cape.
I agree that a roomy raincoat is just as easy to pack even than an umbrella. Keep a ziploc bag with you for when you have to take it off.
I don't own a BAM case, I use an oblong chinese made case, though it's pretty good for the price. I've use it in the past to walk under the rain for some minutes, and have not had a single issue with the rain penetrating the case.
I actually dont understand how Lievissima and unoeotto seem to cannot fight BAM and similar on the market.
Actually those BAM cases get heavy signs of wearing very quickly. Sctetches and stuff like that.
Hi, I don't think I mind too much about dirt and scratches when it comes to the outer appearance. having a kid, dog, and cats means I can never own anything nice anyways.. I just don't want a soaked violin, it's about 20 minutes walk each way.... the bus here is usually late or early so we miss it most of the time and have to walk :(
I used a Musafia master series exclusive dart shaped case when I lived in London. They know about rain there. I would spend several hours trekking around the city on rainy days. I did get the waterproof option and never had a problem.
BAM does a much better job of marketing than Riboni, certainly. Musafia, I think, hasn't done as much to market the lightweight cases. BAM is mass production, and both Musafia and Riboni are much more limited in distribution.
Jess, could you please edit your original heading and correct the grammar? You are giving me brain ache.
My apology, English is my third language. Would you mind telling me what I should have written instead? I would be happy to accommodate that option.
Hi Jess, as English is your third language you have done super well. It is just that the heading should read either; "Are BAM hoodies necessary?", or "Is a BAM hoody necessary?"
Ok I will do that
"I actually dont understand how Lievissima and unoeotto seem to cannot fight BAM and similar on the market. "
@Dimitri. What you have, and BAM doesn't, is loyal clients who proudly use your cases daily, year after year, swear by them, and constantly champion them to others.
I need to buy you dinner... :-)
How about after the MFC AGM?
Well, first of all, BAM is very famous among the youngers and teenagers. I see almost every violinist that is serious about it (I mean, a teenager or twenty something that goes to a Conservatory) using a BAM case. I was like 2 months ago at the entrance of a Conservatory waiting for a friend, and most violinists used the contoured or slim moon shaped cases, normally by BAM since they are the best at those kind of cases.
BAM does not make any CF cases at all. They only make moulded plastic cases, or polystyrene cases covered in canvas. Some of the moulded plastic cases have a picture of CF applied to them. Maybe that is the confusion?
The original BAM case material is ABS (acrylonitrile-butadiene-styrene polymer). Hard to imagine a more waterproof material, but the question is how well the case is sealed ... and don't fall on it!
Plywood cases are better than plastic.
The higher-end BAM cases are in the $600-$900 range, certainly not cheap; I assume that at that price range, they are carefully produced. They are ABS (plastic shell) over a foam core, I believe; they are not CF. But they have the inherent limitations of that design, which includes poor humidity and thermal control. (That does not mean that these materials might not someday be used to build better cases, but that day is not today.)
My violin and viola cases are Bobelocks from JSI. I love them. Lydia is right that you have to consider not only the shell material but also the core. I will never buy a BAM case. I don't even like the way they look. The BAM seems to be the case of choice for high-schoolers whose parents are rich.
Its a bit like peoole buying apple pcs to surf the web.
I purchased a Bobelock plywood case, Hill model with suspension, for my son who is at high school. He cycles to school, is rather clumsy, uses it as a seat, and I often find it up-side-down in his room. He is the perfect candidate to crash test such a case. It is standing up to all he can throw at it. He would, by how, have killed his violin had he used a plastic case.
I have my erhu in a CF case, only because it was the most protective case I could find for that instrument (all the other options I could find were soft/foam cases). BUT, I only paid $400 for the erhu and I don't cart it all over like I do with my violins. Both of my violins are in Bobelock plywood cases that have rain flaps. I've never had an issue with water getting inside of them, and I've had to sprint through an unexpectedly rainy parking lot a few times with them.
Carlo and Lydia are right. Musafia is the Rolls Royce of cases. I have a BAM, and though I don't have many complaints (it has served me well), I would much prefer a Musafia. His cases are gorgeous. I just can't afford all that gorgeousness at the moment.
Ok, as to answer my own question; I believe a bam hoodie is not necessary as I will be returning the bam case I just received. I must agree that Musafia is the rollroyce of all violin cases, a bam in my opinion, might be comparable to one of those tiny smart car. It serves it purpose but not well! First of all, it was far too tight for my violin. And in case of drop, there is nothing to absorb the impact because the the edges of my violin was digging into the cushions already. My violin is not expensive but very sentimental because a very important person in my life was there to help me choose this violin. To me it's not monetary. I'm one of those sentimental fools (or idiot... I don't know). mr. Musafia, I would like to humbly apologize for not listening to your advice before and now I also think this bam case is a piece of merde!
Well said, Jess B!
Carlo, I should have listened to you as well. So glad I still have my bobelock case. The Honda Civic of violin cases (I think).
I'm glad I found this thread while searching for info on BAM cases. I didn't know that the Musafia Lievissima and the Riboni Unoeotto are just a little bit more and offer better protection for a similar weight. My daughter's teacher has a Riboni and I thought it was really beautiful when I first saw it. My teacher travels on train a lot and she has a BAM lightweight.
Michael, a high chinrest should not be a problem, as long as they are not higher as the bridge, I guess. But I am sure Dimitri will be happy to answer you directly with much more knowledge, if he will read it.
Michael. You can contact Dimitri directly through this site, or though Musafia.com. I am certain he will be able to help you.
I'm so glad that I have moved my violin back into my bobelock case the other day. My son pushed the whole case with the violin in it off the bed this morning. it landed the top side down on tiled floor(the case was closed). My violin was not even out of tune and everything contained within the case was unharmed. However, it it were to happen to a bam case, I can't imagine what could happen. I guess it's a learning experience for me. I must admit, the bam case look sleek and modern..also weight a lot less. But the shell is thin and I don't think it's as strong as I had hope it would be. Certainly not enough space inside and not padded enough.I will probably never buy another bam. Curiosity got the best of me.
Actually my Wave Chinrest is the 1.5" model. plus I added a few millimeters of cork to make it even taller. :)