Which E String darkens a set of Dominants?
I've found my Dominant E to be far too shrill on my relatively bright violin. Which E strings (e.g. Jargar Forte E/ Pirasto Gold E) would darken the overall sound?
You can try using that plastic tube over the bridge, it may remove some of the brightness of the sound.
Is this the plain steel E, or the wound aluminium-on-steel E, which is sweeter sounding?
Hi there: I've ditched the original plain Steel E and I am currently using the regular Jargar Forte (with the plastic tube). I've heard the Jargar Forte E is slightly more gut-like... I've considered adjusting my tailpost etc. but I don't want to tinker too much yet.
Jarger Forte E is good. I also like: Hill Thick, Gold Label medium, Goldbrokat .27.
The superflexible E is quite warm
I was told that Westimster E tends to darken the sound..... however, from my personal experience, different bridge brings more changes to a bright instrument than any set of strings. Check with your luthier if the bridge is thin or of an unusual design.
Cheers for all the replies! If string changes don't work out, I'll check out different soundpost and bridge configurations
Obligatos tend to have a darker, richer sound.
Olive Gold plated E? Which I believe is the same E as Obligato. Very sweet tone but may whistle.
I've always found gold-plated strings to give a bright, and even shrill sound compared to plain steel.
Maybe violin dependant. My last Oliv medium did not do that well. It did "darken" the instrument in comparison to the TS E it previously had (in this regard, *maybe* the OP can try a Medium Oliv/Obligato E.) I put the Tiranium Solo E back on after less than an hour of testing the Oliv E, though now have a Goldbrokat .26 ("medium".)
This is the first time I have heard of tailpiece adjustment. Could someone tell me more about why and how it is adjusted. I love a goldbrokat medium. E.It brings clarity in the higher positions
You can change the weight, which will have tonal influence on good violins and you can change the string after length which often has big influence on both playability and tone.
The setup indeed changes the E tone quite a lot. My current setup is Gamut wounded gut for DG, Warchal Advangarde A and Amber E. I used to use fine tuner on both the steel A and E, the E sounded terrible. And I almost gave it away. However, after removing the fine tuner on A, the E became lovely, and so did other string.
Great input by everybody here...Just my two cents as well
You might also add some weight to the bridge to test what this changes in sound. This is not a permanent solution but you might get an idea if you want another bridge.
How would you go about adding weight to the bridge?
Opinions on strings are extremely controversial for several reasons:
To suggest modifications to my very patient luthier, I place blobs pf blue-tack (very briefly) at different locations on and around the bridge, or over the ends of the bassbar. Sometimes I will remove a tiresome resonance, only to find it joining forces with another one, further up the string.
Dominant also makes a string they call tin-plated carbon steel. This is a very unusual string that most people haven't tried, and it's become our shop favorite, giving more body to the sound of the whole instrument.
Hi Michael, long time! Good to see you.
For instruments that like the lower tension of dominants, consider the new string by the company that took over Lenzner, Optima. They make 4 types of goldbrokats now (original, premium, brassed, and 24k gold) They are still inexpensive, and I've found the 24k gold medium works wonders with instruments that have an overbearing e string. With dominants and its silver d, it takes the edge off giving a darker yet cheerful and powerful resonance that balances well with the set. I've tried this combination when stringing up instruments at the shop, and when it works, it works very nicely.
Changing the E may work but for a darker sound change all the strings to Obligatos or Violinos. If you want to stay in the Thomastic family they do a line of strings called Infeld Red that are darker in sound.