Serious problem with violin sizing: Strings, bridge, and f-hole
I'm a self teaching beginner playing the violin. I recently bought a Fretless finger guide so that I'll know where to put my fingers. When I first started playing all the notes sounded off to me, and while playing with a tuner I saw that every note I was playing was 1 above what I wanted (If I had 2 fingers on the G string I'd get a C instead of a B). I measured my strings (from Nut to Bridge) and they turned out to be about 12.75 inches instead of 13 inches. The body of my violin is 14 inches so I know that I have a 4/4 violin. My bridge is right by that little V on the f-hole so I know that its in the right spot. I assume that my f-holes are in the wrong spot (they should be .25 inches back) but there's nothing I can do about it and it is throwing off all my notes. Should I move my bridge .25 inches back and not have it by the V? Is there another way to fix this?
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Thanks to all those who help
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Are you sure the fretless guide is the right version for your instrument (4/4 violin, not viola, etc) and in the right place? How did you place it? The problem with these guides is that they are not really accurate and can be hard to place properly.
I dont really understand how to measure this but my bridge height goes from 1.25 Inches at the G string to 1 inch at the E string.
I think I'll just mark everything myself using a tuner and forget about this Fretless guide. Should I worry about the fact that my strings are still .25 inches too short? will it be a problem?
A small displacement of the bridge will invalidate the guide completely.
How is the tilt of your bridge? It should be bisecting the angle of the strings as they pass over it. Another way to put it is that the side towards the tailpiece should be approximately perpendicular to the line of the joint between the top and the sides as you view the instrument from the side. If what I'm saying isn't clear, look up "violin bridge tilt," or something like that. (I'm not seeing your photos either. It's saying "Please update your account to enable third party hosting.")
Important: straight, fret-like lines will not be quite in tune across four strings, especially on the E-string, where we have to advance the finger more. This is because real strings don't behave quite as they do in books on physics! (Inharmonicity due to thickness and stiffness.)
Here are some co-ordinates:
I use 3/4 A and E string on my violin and it works fine. So far.
String length on a standard 4/4 violin should be 328mm to 330mm from the inside face of the nut to the inside face of the bridge [330mm is the standard].
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