How to find a good Violin teach
I have difficulty to find a good private teacher for my 9 yr old child in NY area. My child plays a bit advanced than children at the same age, and put Julliard pre-colledge as one of the dreams. I know Julliard pre-colledge is very difficult to get in, but want to help at my best to achieve.
The current teacher-- a musical graduate student, we have feels does not know much about the program and for quite some time, my child doesnot feel get improved for a while. I feel it is probably the right time to change.
However, I understand nothing about violin, and have no relation to find a good teacher. Anyone knows where I could find a good violin teacher really can help my child improve? Or if you heard anyone is good, could you give me their contacts? Really appreciate.
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Where in NY?
What Pamela said. Also if you're in Manhattan or the Bronx I can recommend a couple of colleagues.
I could go to Manhattan or Bronx as long as teacher is good. I checked Julliard private teachers, most of them are graduates students. I read some posts here, they all mentioned their teachers are quite well-known, searchable, people heard their names. How could I find such teachers like them.
Cynthia - I would search for someone who has already graduated from Juilliard, so an alumni. It's different than someone who is a graduate student who is already inundated with their own studies.
He's at an age to qualify for the pre-college program already. Does he have repertoire at the requisite level (basically intermediate-level etude and student concerto)? If not, what level is he playing at?
Not only is the teacher important, but how much practicing is your child doing? The road to Juilliard is the same path as the joke about how do you get to Carnegie Hall? Lots of practice and hard work.
I think effectiveness of practice is far more important than quantity of practice time e.g 2 hours of very focussed practice is better than 4 hours of unfocussed practice. What do you not like about your son's current teacher? Also to note that there are teachers who excel at teaching many different types of students at many different levels.
Effectiveness matters, but there's also no substitute for time. An excellent one hour of practice isn't going to take you as far as an excellent two hours of practice, and a regular daily habit is going to take you further than only picking up the violin some days of the week.
(Talent 0-10) x (Practice Efficiency 0-10) x (Practice Time) x (Teacher Quality 0-10) = "Progress Score" each week
The "Progress Score" model seems too simplistic.
Cynthia - contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org
Can't thank all of you more for the advice. My kid plays at NYSMA 6 at age of 8. I guess in the eye of experts here, probably not that advanced. But in his school district, he gets teachers' compliments. However, his school teachers does not know many people in playing violin, his current teacher kind of can't push him up to a new level, although he has been playing with her for over 1.5 year, and she can't recommend any competition or local orchestra for my child to join, just asks me to research myself...even if I searched some results, I won't tell which is good or not for him to go...so for the past year, i would say my kid did not make much progress, still stop at NYSMA 6. That's why I really want to change a teacher, if Julliard violin teacher that would be great. You know, if the child wants to improve himself, as a parent, just want to do anything to help.
@Lydia, and you are right, he already reached the age. I feel probably it is too late now and feel down that I should have done this search a year ago...I am a bad mom.
So I don't know much about NYSMA but I Googled it and found this list of repertoire:
Thanks both. Yes, he likes and enjoys practicing, performing. he currently plays the piece Kreisler's Liebesfreud.
That's understandable. I think that the amount of practice doesn't matter, as long as you get good results. This is because everyone studies differently.
Just relax and take time when choosing a teacher. I agree that a great teacher can make all the difference in the world. Assuming your son is performing at level, a couple months of "shopping around" would not have a negative effect on him at all. After narrowing down to a couple of potential teachers, have a trial lesson with each of them and observe very carefully.
Your son is still young; please do choose a healthy situation for him. Juilliard is a wonderful training ground, but it does not mean that every alumnus is automatically a great teacher for an eight-year-old. As you are asking around, I would specifically look for a teacher who can teach advanced rep and technique, but who also has experience with young students.
I am guessing from your post, Cynthia, that you live in New York State, but you are a significant distance from New York City? (If you were in, say, Westchester County, there would be plenty of teachers and plenty of kids playing the violin.) How far are you from a major population center, and which city?
find a true PROfessional performing violinist/teacher.
There are Suzuki teachers with lots of performing experience plus experience teaching advanced students. Is there a specific reason you want your son to study at a pre-college conservatory?
I don't think there's any reason to slam Suzuki teachers here, though this particular student, based on what he's playing, is now beyond the point that a student would be learning Suzuki.
Yes, plenty of Suzuki teachers perform at a high level and teach advanced students who are well beyond the Suzuki books. Performers can be good teachers too, but the best performers do not automatically make the best teachers, especially if they have no training in pedagogy or experience with kids!
That said, if your teacher doesn't play, that is a problem!
Unless the student is a beginner, a violin teacher who does not have the chops becomes a serious obstacle as the student progresses fast. Assuming the OP's son is doing a good job playing his pieces, I think many of available and otherwise competent teachers may not be the best choice for him if the teacher is not able to reliably demonstrate what is being taught. That is one of the key lessons that I learned (almost) first hand.
Laurie, is the above post from Manuel Clark a spam post? Seems like it.
I agree, I've deleted it. Thanks Lydia!
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