I liked the Zyex, now which one should I try?
Hi, I bought a D'Addario Zyex (synthetic core, aluminum or silver winding, rich and loud) set last year and it lasted until today, when the A string broke; that is 1 year and 3 months. They costed $68, which is pretty much the max amount of money I'm willing to spend. I know I should replace the strings more often, but I can't spend that much each 5 months or so just to have a little better tone when the strings still work perfectly fine.
Before Zyex I used D'Addario Prelude $24, and the Zyex are notably better. I'm a student (not hardcore) and also like to try new things, so now I'm looking for the next set to try. Since I like D'Addario, I'm thinking about Kaplan, but I'm not sure.
Which set would you recommend to someone that liked the Zyex?
Also, for what I can tell, Zyex don't seem to be pretty popular, I'd like to love why.
Just because one string broke you don't have to change the whole set. At concordmusic.com a Zyex set costs about $45 to $48 (depending on which D string you choose. An A string alone costs $11. That online dealer is just one example Most other dealers charge about the same amount. Look into swstrings.com and sharmusic.com as well - in fact just google "violin strings" and see what comes up.
I've been using Zyex for years now, and I've periodically tried other strings but I always go back to Zyex. I've kind of concluded that Zyex "ain't broke, so don't fix." If you paid $68, I don't want to say you paid too much, but you could've paid a lot less. I've been paying around $44 for silver d sets.
i use corelli aliance vivace, they last for a very long time(my set is about one year old and it still sounds like i just broke them in. they hae a warm and rich sound, like a gut string but they responde very fast anyway. i'm not shure because of currencies but they should be pretty much in the same pricerange as zyex but you would have to look that up they are the bes G D A strings i ever had. the e string is totally acceptable but for a little bit more you can get something like a goldbrocad e string wich will totally be worth it. but you should definetly try them
I agree with Mark. If you like your strings and you don't want to spend for "premium" strings (Evah Pirazzi, etc.) then you should stick to what you have.
I pay around $40 for a set of Zyex. Although personally I have gone over to Chorda gut strings, if you like the synthetics and particularly Zyex, you will also probably like Tonica strings by Pirastro. About same price as Zyex and really stable with fine sound, very durable and reliable, and easy to play.
Wait, my set is 1 year and 3 months old, one string broke... how is it possible that you say I just need to replace the broken string?
No, you are not supposed to experiment. You are supposed to practice. Changing the strings, the setup and all the rest may be for fun or curiosity but only as long as they don't mess with the main task: Practice.
what make of fiddle do you have, would you say it's a decent fiddle with a proper set up? string height, nut height good? Tonica was recommended but I'd be careful about those as they have a significantly smaller diameter than Zyex and could cause intonation problems, like say if the nut is too high, among other things.
Yes, my violin is properly set up, string height and all that checked by a luthier. It's easy to play.
You asked if you are supposed to experiment. I said that you are supposed to practice and only experiment as long as it doesn't conflict with practice. If you are able to do both, cheers!
Well, if what you say is right, top violinists or professional violinists in general terms have a favorite set of strings, and the question is...
A very affordable set to try is Warchal Ametyst.
Tim: over the years I've tried nearly every single set made by Pirastro, Infeld and D'addario (including steels) and spent hundreds of dollars. Partly because it took me many years to find a fiddle that I was completely happy with (I now have 2 and my searching is over) but every 2 or 3 years I would make a horizontal trade or a slight trade up. and invariably, I'd have to try 2 or 3 different sets on the different fiddles. Fortunately, after a while I got to know what sets would prolly work on what fiddles, and what sets prolly wouldn't work.
IMO fhe Zyex strings are as good as any other string out there although I am a Warchal fan. I have never had a lot of money so have learned to spend time checking prices from many sources before I purchase anything including groceries and gasoline. I buy my strings when they are marked down on sale and from sites that charge no shipping fee and tax as this saves me a lot of money which can be spent on other niceties such as a new cake of rosin Or shoulder rest.
Years ago the printed SHAR catalog had an interesting feature. Each issue featured the strings used by several of their employees. Most of these were using mixed sets. I believe they may also have described the instrument each of them played. Mixed sets were common. Personally I used mixed sets on my violins for at least 30 years until about 5 years ago when I moved from Peter Infeld, to Thomastik Vision Solo, to Evah Pirazzi Gold - but I've kept the same Peter Infeld platinum E on throughout that evolution - and have no sonic reason to ever deviate from my current setups.
Many folks find Zyex brash and loud, but if they suit your violin and style, keep them.
"The reason why Zyex is not talked so much?"
I find Zyex... weirdly plastic-y, I suppose is the best way to describe it. There are people who like them, but I think there are plenty of better strings on the market. They are supposed to be pretty durable, though.
true confession time: a few months ago I heard there was 'new formula' Zyex on the market. it was many years since I tried Zyex so... I tried 'em with both the silver and aluminum D. I gave each D about 45 minutes along with the rest of the set (sans E)
Lydia wrote, "Back almost 20 years ago, it was relatively cheap to buy strings -- even Evah Pirazzis were about $45 for a full set."
"...after a while, not changing strings is injurious to the instrument and its resonance?"
Scott, you can file that in the "pros know" category. (Look under B).
Try some Larsen strings, i heard they were good even though I haven't tried it
Actually that's very true, Scott. When a set of strings is old enough, like 8 months or so, the violin syncs its harmonic vibration to a longer frequency due to the length of the string and the hide glue can be damaged. Besides, the lower plate responds differently and it could resonate with the ribs, and that would make the sound post to move, or the plates unglue from each other, or the neck slight bend towards the scroll.
Scientifically speaking, the above post is codswallop, (although in all honesty, I've never seen a cod walloping..)
I vote for illusion!!
"when strings don't work anymore"
On the violins that I have, the "resonance" after bringing loosened strings up to regular tension sounds a bit boxy to my ears.
Christian, I know what you mean about the strings and top sound, I really believe it depends on the fit of the post, as string tension loosens due to age and weather changes, the post can move micro millimeters. I have noticed this on some violins with a looser post placement that even after one string e-string change may sound different. I'll have to gently pull the post tighter again to get the sizzle again.
I've been looking for more responsiveness in my viola. Presently I have Obligatos. Recommendations?