Set up for a cheapo violin for toddlers worth it?
I bought it online from China 1/8 size for my toddlers. The sound post came loose, bridge not installed.
Asking a violin luthier here in Israel wanted $150 to setup my old meisel violin. Not sure if I can find a cheaper setup from a more generic music store. I read tensioning the strings with out the sound post will ruin the violin. It's only $30 fory twin 2 years old to play with. If it was only like $20 for a sound post installation I'm okay with that, not more. Advice?
If you were to come to my shop (several thousand miles away, unfortunately) I would stand things up for you for free (and have done so many times for people), but with the understanding that what you would have would probably not be a fully-functional violin. However, a violin "toy" is a concept I can support as an introduction to music.
Michael, I'm curious - what tools do you have that will set up a sound post on a 1/8 size violin?
Why don't you just find a luthier who isn't such a jerk? Or a violin teacher who has the tools and is in the habit of helping his or her students with occasional setup issues.
If you've got 2-year-olds, try a foam violin and fake bow. They come in proper sizes. An eighth is giant on a 2-year-old.
Buy a sound post setter and do it yourself.
If you can't find a non-jerk luthier you'll have to do it yourself. Make a tool from a coat hanger or a setter from China's only a few dollars.
My son's first 1/16 violin was from china. When the soundpost fell off, it started sound significantly better. ))))))
What did your toddler ever do to you?
Is a real violin safe for a toddler?
Andrew, I have a tiny setter for tiny violins, but my full size one would probably fit, too.
Even though my little guy (also 2 years old) keeps asking for a violin (and tiny bow! he emphasizes), I've refused to give him one.
Lydia, wow. I never saw this before. What it is ment for?
Foamalin, box violins, etc. are intended to teach a child proper posture before they are able to handle a real instrument.
Hmmm. Actually, my son's teacher told us, that she started violin lesson from a piece of wood in form of violin, before she got a violin from her teacher.
It may or may not be relevant here, but when I was a kid I asked for and got virtually every toy musical instrument I saw. I was more interested in some than others, but fascinated by all of them. Look what happened. . . .
Michael on that note I plan on buying my son (1 year old) a Hape Ukeulele when he’s a little older. Right now he has a small one with plastic strings my dad bought him while on a cruise that he loves to strum while I practice. We want him to continue to enjoy making music and the ukeulele seems like a great starting point.
Lydia, thanks for the suggestion. My son is 2.5 and he likes to dance while he watches me play and is interested in the violin (because I am, of course;)
Does the foamalin make sounds? If not, what's the point?
Probably a 1/32, but it depends on his arm length. Long arms, a 1/16 will probably be better.
I would guess that for most children the attraction of instruments is making sounds. It was for my children. I have a small violin that they could play on with me. We played piano together and they had a number of percussive instruments that they could play on unsupervised. A silent violin would probably not have interested them very long.
That was the story or the legend of Menuhin, wasn't it? He fell in love with the sound of violin after a concert and a friend of the family gave him a toy violin. After some minutes he threw it to the wall because "It doesn't sing!!" after that, they gave him a real one...
My son has the Melissa & Doug band-in-a-box percussion sets, but he was far more interested in them as an infant, than he is now. He is intrigued by making a sound on the violin during those "instrumental petting zoo" things and whatnot, but having the Foamalin is more along the line of having, say, a pretend phone.
Make your own sound post setter from a coat hanger. It's tricky, but since you don't really care about perfectly placing it, you can just jam it up there. Use a dentist's pick tool to stabilize it. Now if the post is wrong size (possibly why it came down), you are going to have to get one cut and that will cost you because the time involved is significantly more than just setting one.