Good Experience with Corilon
I have several instruments but found the violin market, to put it gently, bewildering. For an intermediate to advanced student I suppose there are the Chinese, but I may not be alone in my queasiness about the labor conditions there. I didn’t want the violin equivalent of a blood diamond. Retailers in my area, well, it seemed beneath them to even discuss anything under five figures, and while Brompton looked enticing, still a pig in a poke. Ebay? Ebay is a cesspool of fake.
Buying new seems to mean resigning yourself to a long break-in period.
Corilon was great to me.
Corilon has the sound samples with a consistent piece of music and recording environment. Their photos are also great for comparison since they seem to use a consistent setup. Their pictures are a little brighter than the real thing (think of them as stage-lit). But the photos they had and the sound sample they had were of the instrument I got.
It is so comforting to find someone I could trust in the purchase of an older instrument. I had initially inquired about another one, but Dr. Roeben quashed that idea, saying she didn’t like that one and recommended four others. The Mirecourt one I chose is both loud and beautiful in tone. The workmanship and condition were excellent, for a Scott Cao 950 price. Expertly packed, and 2 weeks to Boston.
She really is a bright island in a miasmic market.
Great to hear. Great option if there's no shops near your home.
Though note that the OP said he's in Boston, which is a city that has abundant shops, including Johnson, which carries student-range violins, including older restored violins.
Scott, no need to give them free advertising here. They are listed as sponsors and just a click away.
Great to hear! Thanks for the review.
Hmmmm....pretty sure Corilon carries Chinese made violins.
AH pretty sure Corilon does not carry New violins, Chinese or otherwise!!
My error; I was looking at this page: https://www.corilon.com/shop/en/info/china-violin-makers.html
On second look, new member who joined just to post this "review", untruths about his actual local market, and it really does look like ad copy.
I didn't interpret this as an ad and more as an experience to discuss, though it could very well be an ad. I'm not totally sure.
Sorry you thought it was an ad. I was just happy after getting snubbed and lied to elsewhere. And, I haunted a shop near symphony that was just too rich for my blood. Shouldn't generalize a whole city from that, you're right. But I really do not like Chinese labor practices and do not want my money going that way. I haven't heard much about violins in particular, but other industries. I didn't get paid. Just a consumer. I used the site for research but didn't have a reason to post until now. I first posted about planar pegs slipping. If you want me to delete it I will.
You say that you don't like Chinese labor practices, but a Cao 950 is made in China and varnished and set-up in the USA.
he didn't say anything about owning a Scoot Cao.
In my original post, I was trying to say that I paid no more than a Scott Cao but got a contemporary Mirecourt French violin, made by people who make a living wage under decent conditions, and that this matters to me. You seem to think I said something else. Please reread the original post. https://phonotheque.hypotheses.org/nouveaux-luthiers
My apologies. I obviously can not read!
not that Mirecourt workers in 1900 got a living wage???
Well the OP lost me with the Chinese violins/blood diamonds comparison. There is a huge difference between suboptimal working conditions and diamonds that are financing wars and death. And at least some U.S. retailers do pay attention to the working conditions at the Chinese workshops providing their instruments. Not to mention the hyperbole about dealers refusing to discuss violins under five figures. Come on. Even my significantly-smaller-than-Boston city has several violin shops that do much of their business in the student violin, four figures range.
Maybe you would be interested in building violins 60 hrs a week for $1/hr in China.
I find it disrespectful that some of the folks on this site so readily pounce on people who post reviews.
When I read Scott Davis's post yesterday I thought he had had a great experience with Corrilion in the the purchase of his violin and just wanted to share his enthusiasm and excitement.
I do not think that Corilon would need that kind of advertising since they are already listed on the right side. I am not 100% sure that this is an add and it seems as if anybody posting something about their experience with a certain dealer could be treated as an add in disguise. Sometimes its obvious, some other times it's not. Truth is we need reviews.
My initial read of the original post was that it wasn't ad copy in disguise, but I read it more closely after other posters seemed to assume it was someone posting a paid review, and I can see why they thought it was spammy.
Hermes Papakonstantinou, thanks for asking. I altered my profile pic to be the instrument. I didn't how I could add pictures to a discussion. I have others if you know how. And, Jeff Jetson, thanks for the welcome. And Andrew Holland, I've been around artistic types so that I know, however incongruous it may seem, that not all of those who create beauty are nice people. You would think the art would uplift them. I don't know why it doesn't work that way sometimes.
@ Scott, I don't know if there is another way, but you can upload them in another website and then post the link here in the conversation
Scott, your violin looks kinda nice! The case is quite different too.
Jeff Jetson: It's a 1992 Alain Moinier and the case is a Tonareli. FYI.
here's an example of the wonderful system you're supporting when you buy Chinese!!
Honestly, why is this even a post?
Maybe he doesn't want to buy Chinese, that's what most of the Boston shops sell in that price range.
I was curious what a "contemporary Mirecourt French violin" is, and when I looked it up one of the first hits was Corilon. So what is it? Are they contemporary French, factory made violins? I also saw the same link as Mary Ellen--is that their website? It sure looks like they also sell contemporary violins from China.
I don’t see anything from China?