Notes that are dull and subdued
On my E string low F and both C are dull and subdued. The other notes ring out well. Is this normal? Have you noticed anything like it? Tonica is the brand if that makes a difference.
Truth be told, I've never really liked either the F or the C notes. I think that Eb is the prettiest sounding note.
If you don't put in a title for your post, then there is nothing for anyone to click on.
Agree. In addition, I recommend asking a tech/luthier to evaluate your violin.
True, Paul. Out of curiosity I found it by the simple expedient of clicking on a recent high-number thread, starting on 1220, which at time of writing hasn't started yet, and working downwards until I reached 1218 - this one.
Agreed. I found it listed on the main discussion board page. It would be nice to have a requirement by the system for a thread title.
Trevor I agree with you. Error-trapping could be better.
On virtually every violin there are a few notes that don't resonate as well as the rest. In an individual case a luthier may be able to make adjustments to the sound post and bridge to alleviate the problem, and perhaps advise on choice of strings if necessary.
Not to sound off-putting but are you sure you're playing those notes in tune?
I actually never played an instrument that equally rings on all notes (and never one that really « rings « on F). I don’t know if that is even possible... but again I never played a ‘fine’ instrument. I suspect if there is such instrument, that you’d have to spend a lot of money for it.
It's normal, even on fairly high-end violins, for one or two notes to be less ringing than others. Learned this in my recent search for a violin - spoke to quite a few luthiers - but on the other hand they might have just been trying to sell me an instrument!
One or two notes, sure, but typically in high positions, usually on the G string. Not common lower-position pitches on the E string. That suggests either a flawed instrument or a set-up problem.
Yes, violins that ring equally on all notes are very, very expensive.
Something I really like about the violin is that every note does not ring out the same. As a musician, I feel that this gives me an extra challenge, and an extra opportunity to add musicality to what I produce. The same is true for the baroque flute, which I also play, and which has much more substantial variation in tone between notes than the modern flute. Skilful players of baroque flute work with that variation to produce their sound.
Thank you all for the replies. They help.
I personally find that if the C on the G string has somewhat a strong wolf tone, the rest of the Cs in other registers will not ring that much.
Actually on my violin, the F's are really loud. And no it is not an expensive Italian :-)
Try shifting the bridge a (very) little in various directions: if some settings sound better, ask for a soundpost re'adjustment.
The 5th harmonic (or partial) of F on the D string (counting the F as the 1st harmonic) is A1760, a major 3rd above the F's 4th harmonic which is F1396. I've taken the F on the D string as being 349Hz for the purposes of the calculations.
@Y Cheng, concerning the wolves in the lower 2nd octave of the G string, a problem on many violins (and often the better the violin, the worse the wolf problem), on my best violin these wolves live at the A, B-flat, B and C, to the extent that if I have a score instruction in orchestra telling me to play any of those notes high on the G I'll play them on the D string (to date no-one has ever complained!). This is even with my usual gut-core G, and is worse with synthetic.
Trevor, do you have any problems with down shifting?
Before my bridge shifting exercise, how about tuning a semitone lower to hear if the problem notes change.Or even a semitone higher, but I'm not paying for a new E string!
Bob, no problems whatsoever. There are four reasons -
It's quite difficult to play very virtoustic repertoire without a CR. I do like the sound improvement though, especially on my somewhat "tight" violin. But it is just is too limiting for me to keep. Also, it has a muting effect.