Brahms edition and cadenza

June 1, 2017, 9:18 AM · Recently my daughter's violin teacher suggested Brahms violin concerto for her next piece. Could you recommend an edition? I know Joachim's cadenza is the standard, but I am also wondering whether Milstein's cadenza is available in a printed form.


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June 1, 2017, 12:36 PM · They didn't recommend a particular edition?
June 1, 2017, 1:38 PM · Nope. I think it will take at least a month to move on to Brahms and since her teacher is quite accommodating, I just wanted to get a head start on this.
June 1, 2017, 1:53 PM · Don't forget the Kreisler cadenza. :-)

Milstein's cadenza is available in a book titled "Nathan Milstein: Four Violin Cadenzas" - LINK.

June 1, 2017, 6:14 PM · Hi Lydia,

Thanks for the link. Didn't know his cadenza was available. For the concerto itself, there are at least three editions: Henle, Baerenreiter, and Simrock. Do you have a preferred edition? And if you do, could you explain? Thanks.

June 1, 2017, 7:27 PM · I wrote a really cool cadenza to Brahms, but I don't know where it is. Maybe I'll find it one day.
June 1, 2017, 7:38 PM · @Marty: I sent you an e-mail through your school teaching account quite a while back.

Did you ever get it, I was wondering? :)

June 1, 2017, 8:14 PM · I suggest you ask your daughter's teacher which edition you should get.
June 1, 2017, 8:29 PM · The printed Milstein cadenza is different from (and considerably shorter) than the one on his recording.

I have heard of there being cadenzas by Ysaye, Enescu, and Kubelik as well, but I haven't had any luck finding them. Ricci's recording of the Ysaye cadenza is very impressive.

June 1, 2017, 8:40 PM · I actually learned this concerto from the International edition. If I were learning it now I'd choose an urtext, though -- preference would be up to the teacher.
June 2, 2017, 11:18 AM · Thank you all for the helpful comments and suggestions. Mary Ellen and Lydia, I'll ask the teacher about her preferred edition. I just wanted to have an informed opinion. Brian, thanks for pointing out the discrepancy between the performance and printed edition of Milstein cadenza.


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June 6, 2017, 12:47 PM · I would go with the Simrock edition with Joachim's edits and cadenza. Joachim had a great deal of input into the composition of the piece, so his edits are probably important indications of Brahms's intentions.
June 6, 2017, 1:31 PM · Simrock is available on IMSLP, if I recall correctly, so no need to buy the edition. It's factored into modern urtexts, too.
June 6, 2017, 3:30 PM · Hi Tom and Lydia,

Thank you for the suggestion. I got the Simrock edition from IMSLP.

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