Forearm pain - Round shoulders
Whenever I play for a longer period of time I suffer from a forearm pain and slight wrist pain in my right arm. I think I have good technique - I dont rise my shoulder the thumb is between frog and leather and I hold the bow as in textbooks and even if I focus on being completely relaxed I still feel the pain.
This really bothers me because when I play some fast piecies I cant even handle more than 1 - 2 minute of playing and I have to take rest for a little while.
I definetely know I have so called round shoulders. Did anyone has similiar experience and could be this reason of my pain?
Can you post a selfie?
Could it be due to another medical concern or injury? You might try a massage and see what may happen.
Here is my shoulder. Sorry for the quality but I think you can see it.
Aleš, I don't know where you are located but I suggest looking for an Alexander Technique instructor. AT is about good posture and avoiding unnecessary tension. My violin teacher used it.
Thank you, I need to improve my posture but I am wondering if its the bad posture that results in my forearm pain because I dont have any neck pain or back pain.
The textbook bow hold is not for everyone. Try holding the bow in somewhat different ways for your usual "1- 2 minutes" of "fast playing" and see if there is a way to avoid the pain.
Andrew Victor - Thank you for your advice. Well if you have similiar posture to mine and you also experience pain then it looks like that its the bad posture that causes it.
You would definitely benefit from a few well-tailored excesses to bring more balance to your shoulders.
Right,so Im nothing but a starting amateur, playing only to help my daughter, but I have a similar shoulder and I know a lot about body mechanics due to my peofession.
What does your teacher say? Try looking at yourself in the mirror to see what your posture's really like.
Maria, most of our activity is in front of us, including violin playing. It is inevitable to reach out and use arms. I would not share such a pessimistic view; with a proper set of exercises, warm-up and stretch, violin playing can be completely safe.
Attention: Ales V. ~ from concerned & interested Heifetz -Milstein Pupil Pro Violinist/Teacher
My teacher told me to push back the shoulder so it looks like I have normal posture but the problem is I have to constantly think about pushing my shoulder back and its unnatural for me.
A better posture will always feel wrong initially. It's because your body subsumes the feelings of tension of anything you habitualize (your present poor posture)
Striving for "better posture" is noble, but the root cause is in relatively small, but very important muscles. The attempt to change posture is like a belief that if you imagine yourself as so-and-so, your violin playing will be instantly better, even if you neglect scales and studies.
The root cause could very likely be 'rounded shoulders'. The rhomboids pull the shoulder blades towards each other. When they are habitually stretched instead trouble will follow, even if decades down the road.
To Ales V. ~
No one is born with rounded shoulders. Under the age of 8/9 you're just not going to find it. Below a pic from TV.
Bud: there is more than meets the aye: Supra Spinatus, Infra Spinatus, Teres Minor, Sub-scapularis.
Exactly. The will's the thing!