Starting From Scratch
I recently joined and wanted to stop in and give friendly hello!
I am starting to venture out into the world of violin and wanted to connect with others who share an appreciation and joy for this instrument!
I'm an adult beginner who has just started attempting to learn how to play.....and I do mean, just started. I've only been poking around for about a week or so.
I'm hoping by the year's end to be able to play scales properly with correct finger positioning and possible not have my violin sound like nails on a chalk board. XD
I mostly want a solid foundation to work from. I'm unable to take lessons at this time, which is why I'm going to try to not jump ahead and methodically take my time.... hopefully not screwing too much up in the process.
But overall, I just want to have fun and learn to play to the best of my ability, whatever that may be in the end. I have no expectations other than looking forward to learning an instrument I really appreciate!
Hope to speak with some of you all! :)
Welcome to the world of violin! There are many like-minded people on this site. If you must teach yourself, search this site for threads on online lessons. They're plentiful. I'm just a guy who's here to share my voice on violin-related topic.
I’m and adult beginner as well! It’s definately worth it. The number one piece of advice is never give up. You will have days, maybe even weeks where you feel like you’re not making progress or even getting worse, but just persist and it will pay off. There are a lot of great resources on YouTube these days and websites like Violin Lab. One thing that’s helped me a lot is a mirror. Yes, a mirror. Especially if you don’t have a teacher, you really need to be able to see what you’re doing from all angles. Check your form against recordings of professionals. And the folks on this website are always helpful.
Congratulations on the start of your new journey!!!!! Wishing you all the best.
Thanks for the kind words everyone, and I'm appreciative of the recommendations.
You might check your local community college to see if they have a course for beginning string players.
Hey Andrew! Thanks for the feedback, and I absolutely agree with your response. I had previously looked into community colleges that have extended education and life learning centers to see whether I could find a beginner string class. I have found piano classes, but none for String unless you are willing to sign up for a degree/certificate program, which while appealing - is not something I'm looking towards pursuing.
If you're a complete beginner I would recommend the book "Belwin String Builder for violin Book 1" It really does a nice job introducing the violin and showing techniques through short exercises. I started playing again fairly recently after a 25 year gap. I spent the first year just learning on my own, but started taking lessons again about one and half years ago. Hope this helps!
I’m also a beginner adult. Have you thought about taking a couple of classes to get yourself started with good technique? The place where I rented my violin offers 2 free classes with the rental.I already had a teacher lined up, but took the free classes anyway. Having help to hold the bow properly, how the violin should be placed on my body, left hand position, etc., made a huge difference for me.
Maybe try and get someone to tutor you, even if they're unqualified. Better than nothing. Take online lessons or teach yourself as last resorts.
Hey Sara. Thanks for the suggestion. Nice to meet another adult beginner! That's great that your rental included 2 free lessons!
You can do it, Sandra. About 32 months ago, I picked up a violin I had bought in 2008 but never really played. I've had only 3 lessons (though just last week I called the teacher and will start "occasional" lessons next month) and thus am virtually completely self-taught.
$40-50 for a half hour lesson is super reasonable for what can be a very expensive activity (aka hobby). I'd recommend saving where you can to take a lesson to get you on your feet and get you set up technique wise, then return once every so often for a refresher - if you can :) Lessons.com might have more reasonably priced teachers in your area too. You submit your information and teachers who are interested respond.
$40-$50 for a half-hour lesson is considered expensive where I live, but average lesson prices varies by region.
Welcome to the instrument Sandra, you are embarking on a long and rewarding journey. There are always things we wished we did differently when first learned (especially when learning on your own). Most of the work we do, it often seems, is undoing what we learned wrong, and everyone will agree that undoing wrong takes a lot more effort than learning it right the first time.
$40-50 per half an hour is expensive just close to highly specialized course in my country, I think for beginners the price at €25-30 euros per hour is acceptable, by the way, you can look for near conservatory whether there is violin course available for whole year, you may pay the tuition by year but you save a lot of money.
Tutti - I'm in NYC, and $40/30mins is a VERY reasonable price for a lesson with a standard teacher. $50/30 mins (or $100/60 mins) is the standard. I would assume that another major city such as LA would also command similar prices. There is a drastic difference in teacher quality in that $10 price difference too... Depends on what you are looking for in a teacher.
Hello, another adult beginner too :) (I have a music school degree from jazzrock guitar :)).
Hi Pamela, I am in Italy, where price for violin course is rather cheap if compared with most parts of the world, including United States, when I was about nine I entered local conservatorio in my town and began to start from scratch, my parents paid the tuition for my courses, in the first five years I have violin course once a week, a complementary piano course and solfeggiò course for three years, both once a week, I have been stayed in conservatorio for nine years and got a diploma. In the first five years (inferior course),I remembered the cost was about 400 euros per year, and in next four years which were combination of medium and superior courses, the fee was 600 or 800 euros per year, if counted by each course, it was surprisingly cheap, because in Italy there are too many conservatories open for children aged 9 to 15 (though some conservatories today also open to adults), every child can go to conservatory and start from scratch if s/he is interested in any instrument and his or her parents are willing to pay the bill, during the nine years I’ve learnt etudes of Curci, Crickboom, Kayser, Mazas, Dont, Kreutzer, Rode and some capirci of Paganini, because this syllabus was designed by Italian musicians or educators, as a result all students have similar route in violin pedagogy, however, only nine or ten years won’t help much because if you want to be excellent you have to continue your study in highly specialized courses such as private masterclasses both in home and abroad, which cost a lot of money, I only know that Maestro Accardo has been offering highly specialized courses free of charge for over 30 years in both Siena and Cremona institute, but his masterclasses always too competitive and every candidate must pass annual test in order to continue courses.
hi Sandra, welcome, and...starting from SCRATCH is easy to do on the violin :-)
T.V., My guess is that there are two root causes for the difference between Italy and the US. (1) As you mention yourself: the difference in overall income and price level; (2) In Italy and Europe in general, facilities, including education, are more often subsidized from tax money than in the US. In Europe you pay more tax. The difference in number of music schools and supply/demand are a result of the difference in funding structure.
@tutti violino it is the same in czech republic, but we have lower income than in Italy, so the prices are even lower