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Promotion of classical music: Joshua Bell on Oprah

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From Sydney Menees
Posted May 26, 2006 at 06:20 AM

This is the last time you will be hearing from me regarding this subject for a while (unless something happens).

You all know Benny Atkinson from this website? Anyway, he went to one of Joshua Bell's concert in Ireland and he asked Josh "Do you really want to be on Oprah?" Josh laughed and said "Of course! I already told Sydney, however, it's not really up to me. If I was asked, I'd do it." There you go. This is what Joshua's agent said when she e-mailed me We are indeed pursuing the Oprah show.

I want to rid classical music of false stereotypes and I want to give everyone the opportunity to experience classical music. By e-mailing Oprah, we could help this happen!

Thank you.

From Colleen Russo
Posted on May 25, 2006 at 12:23 PM
You know I am behind you 100%! You have come SO far with this, I think more support is what you need... So please people, realize this is something that seriously might happen...she is SO close!!!
From Jasmine Lewis
Posted on May 25, 2006 at 11:04 PM
YAY!!!!!!!!!
From Pieter Viljoen
Posted on May 26, 2006 at 07:00 AM
For some reason I was watching PBS tonight and they did a 2 hour special of Live from Lincoln Centre...

Josh got his own little bit. He played a kreisler piece up in the penthouse and I thought you'd be in heaven if you heard...

From Sydney Menees
Posted on May 26, 2006 at 10:52 AM
Hehe, I might have that on DVD. I swear, it's not my fault though. I have only bought one CD of his. My parents thought that they were getting 2 for Christmas, but they accidentally got 4, we already had one, and my friend's dad (the CEO of the KC Symphony) gave me the CD/DVD of Romance of the Violin.

However, this discussion remains about the PROMOTION OF CLASSICAL MUSIC. As much as you'd like to talk about JB...

"Smilies" - Ilya G.

From Maura Gerety
Posted on May 26, 2006 at 03:12 PM
Wow, this is amazing how close it's getting! :)
From Sydney Menees
Posted on May 26, 2006 at 07:58 PM
I think it's getting close! I hope it's getting close! Ergh... Must... ahhhhh... I can't... say what I want to say...
How do I say this?
From Sydney Menees
Posted on May 26, 2006 at 08:11 PM
Here we go:

I feel so close, but at the same time, I'm feeling dejected because I don't know if it will happen.

I'm not excited :-(

From Sydney Menees
Posted on July 4, 2006 at 11:56 AM
Haha, remember the ham sandwich thing? Check out Evil Linda's genius.
From parmeeta bhogal
Posted on July 5, 2006 at 10:36 AM
Linda,

am just soooo impressed.

Sydeny, are you still in Germany?

From Gabriel Kastelle
Posted on July 8, 2006 at 06:08 PM
There. I e-mailed Oprah.
From Ray Randall
Posted on July 8, 2006 at 09:02 PM
If he REALLY wanted to be on Oprah he would have his agent make the arrangements. Simple as that.
From Sydney Menees
Posted on July 9, 2006 at 07:20 AM
They have tried. He has been pitched to the show in the past, but nothing happened. I think if Oprah went to one of his concerts, she would see, however, they get ticket offers from practically every artist.

Yes, I'll be in Germany for another few weeks.

From Chris Meyer
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 12:59 AM
i heard Bell play the tchaikovsky with the boston symphony and his playing was so out of tune it turned me off to his style forever.
From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 03:36 AM
He's not up to your standards yet. He's workin' on it. Give the boy a break.
From Jude Ziliak
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 11:10 AM
Chris, we must have seen the same performance, and I thought the same thing.
But then I heard him again-- not by choice, but because he played Bruch with an orchestra I was in-- and was really impressed with his playing. It was extremely well in tune and in reasonably good taste, neither of which were true of that Boston performance. It was really very beautiful, too.
From Mara Gerety
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 12:32 PM
To be perfectly honest, his playing is probably the least to my taste of all the big-name violinists currently out there. But to each her own.
From Antonello Lofù
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 01:17 PM
I guess Oprah show is crapy and Bell should just to feel ashamed to want to go there.
From benny atkinson
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 01:30 PM
Chris Meyer, you might like to watch another Tchaikovsky, the one Joshua Bell played in Verbier on August 5th. Hurry to watch it on line before the end of the month.
http://www.medici-arts.tv/verbierfestival.html#
Then click on the date, 5th August.
Hope you can play it to his standard !
BTW I think Joshua Bell would not have time for the Oprah show now, he is too busy!
From Pieter Viljoen
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 02:53 PM
benny... people with bigger careers and more busy lives go on her show...
From Sydney Menees
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 03:25 PM
Wow. I didn't expect this to be unearthed. I'm still working on it, but slightly more indirectly. Obviously e-mailing for over a year had little if no effect, so I wrote a couple of letters and sent in some articles/CDs/testimonials.

I am also working more closely with my classmates. I've been burning them CDs (which they like!) and right now, I'm working on taking our high school and middle school orchestras to Joshua Bell's open rehearsal in January. My principal is being rather difficult, i.e., "We would have to hire a sub..." (oh my gosh, we are so poor, we are building a new baseball complex and adding on to the school and spending a rediculous amount on sports... *HUGE eye roll*).

Anyway, that's what has been going on. I will continue to pursue Oprah more diligently after all my college applications are in ;-)

From kimberlee dray
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 05:44 PM
I think it's a great idea Sydney. I'm proud of you for your efforts to bring classical music to the masses. Whatever anyone wants to say about Oprah, she certainly commands a large audience, as does Bell. Joshua Bell's appearance could only help the violin community.

To my ears, Joshua Bell's playing is unfailingly honest, technically sound and it's deepened with age. I don't know what more anyone could ask from him, and I'm happy he's done so well. It helps us all.

From Ray Randall
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 04:21 PM
If Bell really wanted to be on Oprah all he has to do is tell his agent "do it."
From kimberlee dray
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 04:22 PM
Yeah, maybe you're right, Ray. But, I'm sure Mr. Bell thinks it's sweet that his fan base, like Sydney, support him.
From Sydney Menees
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 05:51 PM
Hi Ray,

Bell has been pitched twice for the show to no avail. Therefore, it is not his or his agent's "fault" that he hasn't been on the show yet.

:-) I think I've explained this a thousand times, but I'd be happy to do it again:
The reason I was looking to get classical music on Oprah is because of the audience she commands. Can you think of any other talk show with a bigger viewing audience? Secondly, she has a HUGE influence and most likely, her viewers will listen to her if she endorses classical music/a musical education.

From Pieter Viljoen
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 05:54 PM
Ray... Oprah's producers and she herself chooses who goes on the show. He's up against people who are actually famous in meanstream society, so it would be very hard for him to get on the show.

That said, he's definately the right one to do it and is the only one who has a chance to get on, besides maybe Perlman, for the human interest aspect of it.

From kimberlee dray
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 08:02 PM
I agree with you Pieter, but maybe Yo Yo Ma stands a good chance too.
From Mara Gerety
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 08:58 PM
How about Maxim Vengerov? He's at least as crowd-pleasing and charming as JB. :) ...Or is part of the point to get an *American* violinist on the show?
From Jay Azneer
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 09:02 PM
Classical music has to fight a battle where rap and rock are now considered no differently than classical music. We are largely the music of choice of a very small segment of society and many consider it rightly or wrongly to be the province of dead white men at least on the composing side. I don't see us winning many converts until we have the equivalent instrumental personality of a Pavarotti or a Bernstein. Until then ....
From Jay Azneer
Posted on September 24, 2007 at 09:01 PM
Not to put too fine a point on it, Mara, Vengerov plays better, too.
From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 25, 2007 at 07:53 AM
"Vengerov plays better, too. "

link --> The Music Olympics
Funny stuff. LT wrote a great book on performing, out of print, will cost you an arm and leg if you can find a copy.

From Mara Gerety
Posted on September 25, 2007 at 05:16 AM
Jay--well yes, of course. I was just trying to be diplomatic.
From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 25, 2007 at 08:10 AM
Two violinists is clearly too many, seeing how there's only 145 classical music fans total. This town ain't big enough for the both of us. Draw, Fiddlin' Josh.
From Sydney Menees
Posted on September 25, 2007 at 06:37 PM
> "Not to put too fine a point on it, Mara, Vengerov plays better, too."

Well, to each his own, but do you think if any musician appears on Oprah, the average viewer will suddenly be critiquing his playing? ;-)

From Mara Gerety
Posted on September 25, 2007 at 10:00 PM
Quite honestly, Syd, I think that if a classical musician went on Oprah and played real classical music (a Brahms sonata or something--no crossover stuff), most of the country would just be scratching their heads in bewilderment. I still think it's a good idea though. :)
From Sydney Menees
Posted on September 25, 2007 at 11:28 PM
They don't need to play crossover to get to America - what about Banjo and Fiddle or the theme from Schindler's List? Those aren't long and they are very easy for the audience to get into.
From Mara Gerety
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 02:55 AM
Eh. How about whoever gets on Oprah uses the opportunity to introduce average America to some truly great art? I mean, if Oprah's Book Club can read "Anna Karenina," surely Oprah's guest soloist can play a little Brahms or Schumann or solo Bach.
From Sydney Menees
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:16 AM
Of course! Along with some other, lighter music to "ease them in". See? Small steps, small steps...

PS - Now we have a Facebook group! All you v.commies join!!!

From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:26 AM
Mara, could you really handle a Russian introducing "average America" to the finer things in life? How about average Americans topple their empire and introduce them to capitalism. Speaking of Oprah...
From Mara Gerety
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:26 AM
Russia's been capitalist (if not democratic) since 1989, in case you hadn't noticed. And yes, I'd be quite fine with a Russian violinist introducing "average Joes" to Brahms and Beethoven. Why the heck not?
From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:33 AM
Wow! It already happned and I missed it.

Classical music on Oprah is a a little like when the Jehovah's Witnesses come knocking. If you aren't already interested, you aren't gonna be because of them. It's not like there hasn't been opportunity before. They always seem unaware of that. They're like if they only knew...

From Mara Gerety
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:33 AM
If you're stubbornly closed-minded and immune to sublime beauty, I guess.

(referring to great music...NOT door-to-door missionaries...)

From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:39 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, fortunately for a lot of us. Mostly I just want to see Guns n Roses smashing stuff up. We need to get Guns n Roses on the classical music station. If you only knew...
:)
From Mara Gerety
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:38 AM
...um, if that's your preferred genre, why do you hang around a classical music forum so much? :)
From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:42 AM
What classical music forum?
From Pieter Viljoen
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:42 AM
I didn't love classical music until Guns N' Roses made me love music.

I've seen Slash perform twice, and Axl once. Both great experiences.

From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:47 AM
Holy names. When you spell them, leave the vowels out.
From Mara Gerety
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:50 AM
I didn't love classical music until a week spent on a trip with my swim team listening to the radio blaring Top 40 pop garbage made me realize how much I loved classical music...

Jim, should that apply to names like Bch, Bthvn and Brtk as well? :)

From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 26, 2007 at 03:50 AM
LOL I thought that's where he was going too.
From Teresa Boone
Posted on September 27, 2007 at 09:05 PM
Well, we're getting closer.
Ellen Degeneres is having a hip-hop violinist on her show tomorrow.
I think his name is Paul Dateh?
From Emily Liz
Posted on September 27, 2007 at 09:31 PM
To be honest, Ellen might be more receptive to this than Oprah, since she tends to have shorter segments and not one-theme shows like Oprah does. Might be another alternative to try.
From Scott Hawthorn
Posted on September 28, 2007 at 02:35 PM
Benny posted:
"Chris Meyer, you might like to watch another Tchaikovsky, the one Joshua Bell played in Verbier on August 5th. Hurry to watch it on line before the end of the month.
http://www.medici-arts.tv/verbierfestival.html#"

Damn! That was pretty good!

From E. Smith
Posted on September 29, 2007 at 01:19 AM
When do you folk get the time to watch all this daytime TV?
From Roelof Bijkerk
Posted on September 29, 2007 at 06:53 AM
Maybe Joshua Bell, his managers or someone else who would have the ability to accomplish it, should invite Oprah to narrate Peter and the Woolf somewhere or for a recording.
From Stephen Brivati
Posted on September 29, 2007 at 07:13 AM
Greetings,
how about `Peter and the Wolf note?`
Cheers,
Buri
From Laurie Niles
Posted on September 29, 2007 at 05:45 PM
*groan!*
From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 29, 2007 at 06:29 PM
Think about if this scheme was actually successful. Oprah has the classical music club along side the book club. What would it do to our national psyche? Is it really what we want? The national debate becomes is ASM out of her mind or not, and every question has only a subjective answer driven by personal preference or prejudice...
From Mara Gerety
Posted on September 29, 2007 at 09:47 PM
Jim, personally I'd much rather have the whole country obsessing over philosophies of musical interpretation that what illicit substance Lindsay Lohan took last week, but maybe that's just me. :)
From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 29, 2007 at 10:14 PM
It doesn't seem like a stable situation. Even if you could somehow get it precariously balanced, all that has to happen is somebody asks what ASM was wearing, and it all crashes back down into what you had before :)
From E. Smith
Posted on September 30, 2007 at 01:39 AM
Haha, Jim. The Oprahfication of classical music...
From Jim W. Miller
Posted on September 30, 2007 at 04:36 AM
We're starting from the ground up here. The jacket liners need say it's ok to obsess about her dress or what pills she takes as long as the obsessing ends up back on rubato or not to rubato.
From Bill Busen
Posted on September 30, 2007 at 04:50 AM
And after you email Oprah, you can join Sydney's similarly themed Facebook group. (How do we keep synchronized between here and there? Maybe since we spend most of our time online instead of practicing, it isn't actually a problem...)
From Roelof Bijkerk
Posted on September 30, 2007 at 06:08 AM
Eye hope eye half awl the spellings of the words correct hear.
U wood bea sir-prized to no how crazy Joshua Bell can be I think. I donut no if Oprah wood intimidate hymn.
Maybe Peter and the Woolf is better for Oprah. (sic)
From Sydney Menees
Posted on September 30, 2007 at 11:08 PM
Oh geez. I honestly cannot see my classmates obsessing over what ASM was wearing ;) I think if they did become fond of classical music, their reverance would be more refined. When I discovered classical music I thought of it as more of a sanctuary to get away from all the pop-culture gossip...

Here's a link to the Facebook group.

From Roelof Bijkerk
Posted on October 4, 2007 at 11:28 AM
Eye Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeemayled them
She sad that Oprah was on the top
off there list
I donut no
Wili want to bea on with her...
From Alison S
Posted on October 4, 2007 at 06:52 PM
Would an Oprah Classical Music Club really be such a bad idea? I joined her book club last summer when I read Tolstoy's Anna Karenina, and found the web site to be a very useful resource for background information on the book's characters. Just consider the future possibilities; we on v. com could have conversations with people who had only gained their knowledge from Oprah's website. How disturbing for those who are only prepared to share their love of classical music with those who are worthy enough.

But despite my proletariat credentials, I realised that I can out-snob anyone on this site while watching the Last Night of the Proms this summer. As Joshua Bell (world class violinist) was interviewed by Alan Titchmarsh (the nations favourite gardening expert), my first thoughts were 'What does Alan Titchmarsh know about Classical Music?'. (He might know more than me; it wouldn’t be difficult). But Titchmarsh and Bell were a good match for one another in an interview setting because both are relaxed, charming and fairly easy on the eye. It might be hard for some to believe, but Titchmarsh is actually a heart throb for middle-aged women in this country. His questions were populist, but still intelligent - 'Does a £2M pound violin sound twice as good as a £1M violin?'

On reflection it dawned on me that Alan Titchmarsh is actually a good role model for Joshua Bell, and Joshua Bell is smart enough to know that. Gardening is a very popular hobby in the UK. If Joshua Bell's violin playing became as well loved (or even as mundane) as gardening is for the people of this country, or as popular as Tolstoy is for Russians, the future of classical music would be very bright.

Sydney is to be congratulated on taking this initiative.

From Roelof Bijkerk
Posted on October 30, 2007 at 10:09 PM
All I really know about Joshua Bell is that he is an uncouth person who wouldn't stop bothering me, even when I called his agents to tell him to stop. Consequently, I am on disability for a severe emotional disturbance he contribued to.
From Nate Robinson
Posted on October 30, 2007 at 10:37 PM
???
From Stephen Brivati
Posted on October 30, 2007 at 10:50 PM
Greetings,
I had the same trouble with Sharon Stone until she ran off with Albert.
Cheers,
Buri
From Roelof Bijkerk
Posted on November 3, 2007 at 05:27 PM
Of course it's all
JUST because
David's (Copperfield's) aunt was
discusted that
He might become

A hair dresser...
besides Josh is Vaslav Nijinsky's
only brother, he has a GOOD excuse

From Sydney Menees
Posted on November 4, 2007 at 04:20 PM
I don't understand...

(Die, thread. DIE. Come back when I have time to tend to the discussed issue.)

From David Russell
Posted on November 4, 2007 at 06:31 PM
Is this an attempt at free-form poetry? Stream of conciousness? I am profoundly confused.

If it isn't either...

???

From Pieter Viljoen
Posted on November 4, 2007 at 06:46 PM
Mr. Russell,

"I am profoundly confused.".

I think he is too.

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