From Diego Coelho
Posted April 28, 2006 at 05:35 AM
"Antonius Stradiuarius Cremonenlis (or Cremonenfis, I can´t tell)"
in the line below:
"Faciebat Ann 1714"
beside this line there is some kind of logo, containing the letters ATS (I think) rounded by two thin lines with a little dot above the letter "T".
Below everything there is the writing:
"Made in Germany"
Now, I need to know, if is it a sign or something that this one is a Stradivarius, or it is just some kind of joke or a fake one, because I can´t tell like you guys can, from the sound of it, since I don´t have that kind of specializaed hearing.
So please, I ask all of you that could help me in any way, to do so.
I´m terribly sorry for bothering you and I thank you all for the attention.
German violins are nice, though! :) (Mine is German...)
Btw...mine's German too and has a fake Strad label on it.
BTW, Diego, what kind of wood is the bow made of?
Our family was originally from Cremona, Italy, but my great-great-great Grandfather settled in West Pomerania after being injured as a soldier while fighting in Prussia.
Made in Germany (or Hungary, Italy, Czechoslovakia, etc.)
The McKinley Tariff Act of 1891 required that items imported to the U.S. be marked with their country of origin. In 1914 the act was revised to require the words "Made in" to also be used. Finally, in 1921 the act was revised yet again to require that all country names occurred in English. Thus an object labeled simply "Bavaria" of "Nippon" would likely (but not absolutely) be from some time between 1891 and 1914. "Made in Italia" might be before 1921.
It seems likely that any item marked "Made in Japan" was probably made or imported after 1921. Prior to 1921, they might have been labeled "Made in Nippon." We also know that after WWII and during the US occupation of Japan, items that were made for export were marked "Made in Occupied Japan" or perhaps "Occupied Japan."
Similarly, items labeled "Made in Germany" are likely manufactured between 1921 and WWII. After partition the designations became "Made in West (or East) Germany" and remained so until the reunification in the 1990's.
The essential point of all this is that such designations on a violin label, for example, clearly indicate an instrument manufactured for export to the U.S. If you have a violin with a label nearly identical to the Stradivari or other labels shown above, but it says "Made in Germany," it is de facto NOT an authentic Stradivari, but a factory made copy. You don't need an appraiser to tell you this.
I don't pretend to know much about instrument IDing, but I do know that the label is the last thing a reputable appraiser will look at.
Also, after a lot of research on my part and after seeing the ones in museums, the labels were hand written, not printed.
Does not mean that you do not have a good violin, and the ones made in Germany are quite good. Go for the sound of the instrument to decide whether you like it or not.
The varnish unusual with these gold speck like crystallized?
With deep perforating especially noticeable around at the base of neck knob. The violin came with old cat gut natural strings and very old resin smell of old tree sap
There is no made in or copy any where .
That said, he was definitely not on form when he made those thousands of student violins while on holiday in Czechoslovakia in 1721...
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