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You Know You're An Orch Dork When...

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From Jessica Smith
Posted May 17, 2005 at 08:21 PM

It seemed like we could use another light-hearted fun thread.... so................

(I didn't write this, it has been posted all over the internet...)

You Know You Are An Orch Dork When...

~You buy light colored shirts to avoid rosin stains
~You get together with your friends and in the midst of deciding what to do, you find yourselves playing chamber music
~You don't go out on weekends because "you have an audition" the next day...or even orch dorkier, a rehearsal
~You buy things like cookie cutters and pasta in the shape of musical notes and instruments
~You've put Tchaikovsky's birthday on your calendar
~You know every viola joke by heart
~When you think about it, you really don’t think the viola jokes are that funny because you know that they are all so TRUE
~You have separate buddy lists...one for orch dorks and one for "regular people"
~You know the words to the choral version of The 1812 Overture
~You know that there is a choral version of The 1812 Overture
~You go to parties and people direct you right to the "orch dork corner"
~You've decorated the inside of your case...with things that pertain to music
~You know what an Austrian 6th chord is
~You don't mind getting up at 7 on Saturdays
~You carry around a pocket music dictionary...and read it just for fun
~You've named your instrument
~The highlight of your New Year's is the Mostly Mozart concert
~You follow along in the score when you listen to classical music
~You own scores
~You find some way to incorporate music into all of your school research papers
~During your homework breaks you practice Shostakovich string quartets for fun
~You correct your friends when they call pieces "songs"
~You can draw various instruments on your etch-a-sketch
~You carry around a nail clipper
~You play along with Mahler symphonies on the kazoo
~You know how to pronounce Dohnanyi
~You have friends with screen names like Carlpebach and CadenzaV2
~You sing Beethoven/Tchaikovsky symphonies in parts for fun
~You have random spasms which cause you to play Copland’s Rodeo
~You take up badminton to try and get your mind off your depression caused by orchestra ending for the year
~You see seating auditions as a social gathering
~You avoid gym volleyball to avoid hurting your fingers
~You can play the first and second violin parts of Tchaik 4 on cue
~You ask for reeds/bows/rosin/mutes for Christmas...and then cry when you don't get them
~You have a conniption when people clap between movements
~You get together with your friends and in the midst of deciding what to do, you find yourselves playing chamber music
~You know what a hemidemisemiquaver is
~You read program notes
~Someone asks you what car you drive, and you respond: "Kreisler"
~You start off conversations with things like, “The funniest thing happened last night during my 11 measures rest in the second movement of the Tchaikovsky...”
~When you come to a rut in the conversation, you show off your perfect pitch skills by singing A 440 to break the tension
~You protect your hands at all costs...except in the case of Egyptian ratscrew
~The Shar catalog in the mail brightens your day
~You have Shar on speed dial
~You have a fit in choir when people don't cut off at the right time
~Your graduation (birthday, etc) party guest list contains more orch dorks than people from your school
~Whenever you're in school you think about how an orch dork school would be so much cooler
~You know Mozart's full name
~You get a copy of BMG's Encore Magazine twice a month
~You go nuts when you hear the school bell go off because you try to figure out what pitch it is
~You dance along with your “Dr. Beat”
~The A440 has gone off on your pocket metronome in the middle of English class
~You have inadvertently referred to Saturday as “audition day”
~You sing along with the microwave.
~You have a compulsion to complete other people's cell phone rings, and to do so out loud.
~When the politicians mention DeLay on the news, you think "Dorothy" and wonder when she got into politics.
~You find yourself counting rests when you're driving and listening to music.
~You refuse to take a class required for your major because it meets during your orchestra rehearsal
~You can't keep a constant speed while driving because you're tapping your foot
~You're walking down a sidewalk, you try to take "triplet" steps within the "duplet" cement squares, just to practice rhythm
~You're on a dinner date, you'll interrupt conversation by pointing at the ceiling, cocking your head and saying, "This is Dvorak, we played this my junior year..."
~... likewise for movie soundtracks
~You've said, "Flight of the Bumblebee is so cliche for movie soundtracks"
~You finally blast out the guys playing Hip-hop too loud down the hall with 1812 Overture on a sound system that they could only dream of having.
~You have a Strad poster in your dorm room (Brothers Amati viola, c. 1620...)
~You have soundpost setters in your dorm room
~Your instrument cases take priority over books on your dorm room shelves
~When cleaning, you find violin strings in odd places and wonder how they got there...
~When you have a violin calandar...
~When your license plate says "vln vla"
~You have christmas music stuck in your head before thanksgiving cause you're already rehearsing it
~You not only name your violin, but its named after a composer
~People think you're a goth because you have so much black clothing
~Violining is a regualr word in your vocabulary
~You tell heifetz jokes

Feel free to add to the list...

~Jessica

From Molly Rogers
Posted on May 17, 2005 at 08:29 PM
Wow, that's hilarious. It's so sad that these apply to me. I couldn't help but laugh aloud when I read this:

~You protect your hands at all costs...except in the case of Egyptian ratscrew

...So true.

From Owen Sutter
Posted on May 17, 2005 at 08:30 PM
oh no, i only missed about 3 of those.
From nate r
Posted on May 17, 2005 at 10:09 PM
"When the politicians mention DeLay on the news, you think "Dorothy" and wonder when she got into politics."

:)

From Ben Clapton
Posted on May 17, 2005 at 11:18 PM
~You buy light colored shirts to avoid rosin stains
~You buy things like cookie cutters and pasta in the shape of musical notes and instruments
~You've put Tchaikovsky's birthday on your calendar
~You know every viola joke by heart
~When you think about it, you really don’t think the viola jokes are that funny because you know that they are all so TRUE
~You go to parties and people direct you right to the "orch dork corner" - When I go to parties, the people there are all "orch dorks"
~You've decorated the inside of your case...with things that pertain to music
~You know what an Austrian 6th chord is
~You don't mind getting up at 7 on Saturdays
~You've named your instrument
~You follow along in the score when you listen to classical music
~You own scores
~You find some way to incorporate music into all of your school research papers - I'm studying music, so it doesn't really count...
~You correct your friends when they call pieces "songs"
~You carry around a nail clipper
~You have random spasms which cause you to play Copland’s Rodeo
~You ask for reeds/bows/rosin/mutes for Christmas...and then cry when you don't get them
~You have a conniption when people clap between movements - I prefer the traditional method used during Vivaldi's time - a good cough!
~You know what a hemidemisemiquaver is
~You read program notes
~You protect your hands at all costs...except in the case of Egyptian ratscrew
~Your graduation (birthday, etc) party guest list contains more orch dorks than people from your school - coming from a music school...
~You know Mozart's full name
~You can't keep a constant speed while driving because you're tapping your foot - I'm clever and I tap the other foot.
~You finally blast out the guys playing Hip-hop too loud down the hall with 1812 Overture on a sound system that they could only dream of having.
~Your instrument cases take priority over books on your dorm room shelves
~When cleaning, you find violin strings in odd places and wonder how they got there...
~When your license plate says "vln vla" - after reading this... I want one!
~Violining is a regualr word in your vocabulary


I think it might have been easier for me to take the ones that didn't fit for me...

From 'Erie Weber
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 05:27 AM
Austrian 6th chord??? Maybe I'm missing something (it's been known to happen), but 1 month from getting my Masters degree in theory I've only heard of Italian, French, German, and Neapolitan...
From Sarah Benedict
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 07:41 AM
I've never heard of an Austrian 6th either....perhaps they meant German??? Or maybe that is the joke itself...

Cheers!

From paul king
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 08:05 AM
And just what is Egyptian ratscrew?
From Scott Hawthorn
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 02:37 PM
When you often play "Turkey In The Straw during warmup.
From Jessica Smith
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 03:10 PM
Paul-
Egyptian Rat Screw is a card game that involves the slapping of cards and other peoples' hands... At least at the high school, it is often known to draw blood...

~Jessica

From Lauren Canitia
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 03:42 PM
Those were great, Thanks Jessica!! They brought a smile to my face because they are all so true...
From Achilles Wagner
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 04:45 PM
Egyptian Rhapsody - (or ratscrew as it is called by others) is a card game played with the winner collecting the most cards - it is done so when all the cards are dealt to each player until they are all dealt, Then each player adds a card to a central ile until a face card shows (ace's count!) or two cards of the same number. The first person to slap the file gets the pile. Awesome game- hard on the hands! The end of the game comes when one person holds all of the cards!
From Yoni Weisbrod
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 06:22 PM
It's SOO true! I really do sing along with the microwave!! Wow, I thought I was the only one.
From Lance McGee
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 07:07 PM
I'll have to say that cleaning and finding stray strings is something I most commonly do. I've even found the closet that houses my cental unit for the a/c! Go figure!

Lance

From Pieter Viljoen
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 09:29 PM
You say rediculous things like "Tchaik" and "Shosty".
From Rick Basil
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 09:46 PM
You debate about violinists, like other people debate about sports or politics.
From Emily Grossman
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 10:27 PM
I'm the one commenting on the background music when out with friends.
From Pieter Viljoen
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 11:22 PM
All this is partly why most of my friends aren't in classical music. A lot of my friends are big into music, but none are "orch dorks". Even though I am a serious musician, I don't consider myself an "orch dork" because I find a lot of what is on that list to be geeky and not fun.

I admire the artistry of many people who are "orch dorks", but most of them I find boring. That's just me though.

From Nic Martland
Posted on May 18, 2005 at 11:55 PM
You know when you are an orch dork when u meet a musician for the first time and you can tell what instrument they can play just by their appearance. Like the saying people look like their pets- people look like their instruments. Then you get offended because they can't guess what you play.
From Sarah Wallin
Posted on May 19, 2005 at 01:35 AM
"All this is partly why most of my friends aren't in classical music. A lot of my friends are big into music, but none are "orch dorks"."

I find that I wind up relating to practically everything on the list, simply because of my exposure to the violin-world. But it's only when the orch dorks start bragging about their idiosyncrasies (in a self-serving manner) that "orch-dorkiness" becomes annoying...

From Michael Molnar
Posted on May 19, 2005 at 08:38 PM
.... when you send things like this to us.

[grins]

From Pieter Viljoen
Posted on May 19, 2005 at 09:57 PM
I agree with Sarah.
From Charlie Caldwell
Posted on May 19, 2005 at 10:12 PM
It's amazing that most of those apply to me...
From sara a m
Posted on May 20, 2005 at 01:34 AM
"When someone asks you what your hobbies are, you really can't say playing the violin, because that's more like you life..."

"You can't really ever listen to music because you're too busy trying to find the pitch, keep up with the rhythmn, name chords, etc."

"When people bring up Paganini, you start to recite your essay on him, plus some more composers"

"Your instrument replaces a teddy bear at night"

"Instead of reading books in car rides/planes/waiting rooms, you read sheet music"

"You dress up as a composer/instrument for Halloween"

From paul king
Posted on May 19, 2005 at 10:31 PM
"you come back to check on this thread at least two or three times a day"
From sara a m
Posted on May 19, 2005 at 11:16 PM
2 to 3 times a day? I check it over 20! :P

"You read this list and go out and try to do/be everything on it 'cause you're so jealous of us orch dorks ;)."

From Pieter Viljoen
Posted on May 19, 2005 at 11:30 PM
Sara, do you really have problems listening to music?
From sara a m
Posted on May 20, 2005 at 12:07 AM
Really only classical, specially when it's a violin solo. I just keep picturing my fingers on the fingerboard, tap the rhythmn, name the rhythmn, try to figure out what the notes are, so by the time the piece is finished, I can't even remember how nice it sounded (or how it sounded, for that matter). Bad habit.
From Pratik Desai
Posted on May 20, 2005 at 12:11 AM
lol i do that a lot too- i'll be so into it that i'll just kind of space out... if i hear a really awesome part in the orchestra, i'll only focus on that, or if i'm listening to a violinist play a really hard passage, i'll sit there and think of myself playing that and i'll keep repeating that passage over and over again... by the end of the piece, i haven't really enjoyed the entire thing, and i have to go back and listen to it again... lol
From Jessica Smith
Posted on May 20, 2005 at 01:21 AM
"Your instrument replaces a teddy beat at night"

Awww Sara, thats cute

From sara a m
Posted on May 20, 2005 at 01:41 AM
Thanks, Jessica! :) Yeah, you'll usually see me holding my violin when I'm sleeping. I'm surprised I don't crush it... :P


**edit** -bear (sry, can't spell)

From Pieter Viljoen
Posted on May 20, 2005 at 04:08 AM
Sara you should probably speak to a professional.
From paul king
Posted on May 20, 2005 at 06:03 AM
too late for that...for all of us!
From Laura Rouse
Posted on May 21, 2005 at 05:28 PM
~You're on a dinner date, you'll interrupt conversation by pointing at the ceiling, cocking your head and saying, "This is Dvorak, we played this my junior year..."

It was my senior prom, and if memory serves me, it was his 8th symphony. Actually, we played it my sophomore year. :-P

From Preston Hawes
Posted on May 21, 2005 at 06:04 PM
When you absent mindedly comment to your friends that a car horn is actually a very widely tuned Major 3rd where the E is slightly flat and the G# is a full quarter tone sharp....then they stare back at you and threaten to throw you out the window.

Preston

From Pratik Desai
Posted on May 21, 2005 at 06:15 PM
when you're sitting in class, taking a test, and you suddenly come up with a new fingering for a passage in the concerto you're working on...
From Danielle Goatley
Posted on May 21, 2005 at 06:58 PM
No, the ultimate is when you are in class bored and you finger in your palm your current piece.
From Pratik Desai
Posted on May 22, 2005 at 02:22 AM
hehe- yeah i do that too...
From Anna Rose Lawrence
Posted on May 22, 2005 at 03:18 AM
definitely injured myself in high school playing egyptian ratscrew backstage before concerts...

you know you're an orch dork when:
you've been known to spend a rather long amount of time singing your part from the 2nd mvt of Beethoven 9 along with other orch dorks (all different parts) in various public places...

From Anna Rose Lawrence
Posted on May 22, 2005 at 04:17 AM
some more additions:

-after reading this thread you immediately emailed the link to the rest of your orchestra board (and, of course, you're on your orchestra board... vice-president, in fact)

-you've been known to wake up in the middle of the night swetting from an awful nightmare where you were about to have a performance, but you couldn't find your orchestra blacks (as in last night...)

-for the college students: you're friends with "beethoven" on facebook; you're part of an "orchestra" group on facebook, and at least three other music-oriented groups; you're "wall" has viola jokes on it....

-the first thing you read every week in the new yorker are the concert listings (even before you browse through to find all the cartoons!)

From Danielle Goatley
Posted on May 22, 2005 at 04:11 PM
Speaking of viola jokes anyone have some good ones? I'm in need
From Joel Najera
Posted on May 22, 2005 at 11:50 PM
Got these viola jokes off some website:

How is lightning like a violist's fingers?
Neither one strikes in the same place twice.

How do you keep your violin from getting stolen?
Put it in a viola case.

What's the difference between a violin and a viola?
The viola burns longer.
The viola holds more beer.
You can tune the violin.

We all know that a viola is better than a violin because it burns longer. But why does it burn longer?
It's usually still in the case.

How do you get a viola section to play spiccato?
Write a whole note with "solo" above it.

How do you get a violist to play a passage pianissimo tremolando?
Mark it "solo."

What's the difference between a viola and a coffin?
The coffin has the dead person on the inside.

What do you do with a dead violist?
Move him back a desk.

What's the difference between a viola and a trampoline?
You take your shoes off to jump on a trampoline.

What's the difference between a viola and an onion?
No one cries when you cut up a viola.

What's the definition of a minor second?
Two violists playing in unison.

What's the definiton of "perfect pitch?"
Throwing a viola into a dumpster without hitting the rim.

Why do violists stand for long periods outside people's houses?
They can't find the key and they don't know when to come in.

What's the difference between a seamstress and a violist?
The seamstress tucks up the frills.
A violist f...............

What's the difference between a washing machine and a violist?
Vibrato.

Why do so many people take an instant dislike to the viola?
It saves time.

How can you tell when a violist is playing out of tune?
The bow is moving.

How was the canon invented?
Two violists were trying to play the same passage together.

Why is playing the viola like peeing in your pants?
They both give you a nice warm feeling without making any sound.

Why is a viola solo like a bomb?
By the time you hear it, it's too late to do anything about it.

Why is a viola solo like premature ejaculation?
Because even when you know it's coming, there's nothing you can do about it.

Why do violists leave their instrument cases on the dashboards of their cars?
So they can park in "handicapped" parking places.
If someone mistakes them for mafia, they might get some respect.

Why don't violists play hide and seek?
Because no one will look for them.

Why do violists smile when they play?
Because ignorance is bliss and what they don't know can't hurt them.

Why shouldn't violists take up mountaineering?
Because if they get lost, it takes ages before anyone notices that they're missing.

What's the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a crushed viola in the road?
Skid marks before the skunk.

How do you get a violin to sound like a viola?
Sit in the back and don't play.
Play in the low register with a lot of wrong notes.

If you throw a violist and a soprano off a cliff, which one would hit the ground first? (two answers)
The violist. The soprano would have to stop halfway down to ask directions.
Who cares?

A conductor and a violist are standing in the middle of the road. which one do you run over first, and why?
The conductor. Business before pleasure.


What's the most popular recording of the William Walton viola concerto?
Music Minus One

What do a viola and a lawsuit have in common?
Everyone is happy when the case is closed.


What is the range of a Viola?
As far as you can kick it.


What do a SCUD missile and a viola player have in common?
They're both offensive and inaccurate.

Why are violas so large?
It's an optical illusion. It's not that the violas are large; just that the viola players' heads are so small.


What's the difference between a chain saw and a viola?
If you absolutely had to, you could use a chain saw in a string quartet.


What is the definition of a cluster chord?
A viola section playing on the C string.


Why do violists get antsy when they see the Kama Sutra?
All those positions!


If you're lost in the desert, what do you aim for? A good viola player, a bad viola player or an oasis?
The bad viola player. The other two are only figments of your imagination.


Why shouldn't you drive off a cliff in a mini with three violas in it?
You could fit in at least one more.


How many violists does it take to screw in a light bulb?
None. They're not small enough to fit.


Why do people tremble with fear when someone comes into a bank carrying a violin case?
They think he's carrying a machine gun and might be about to use it.
Why do people tremble with fear when someone comes into a bank carrying a viola case?
They think he's carrying a viola and might be about to use it.


What's the difference between the first and last desk of a viola section?
half a measure
a semi-tone


Why can't you hear a viola on a digital recording?
Recording technology has reached such an advanced level of development that all extraneous noise is eliminated.

Did you hear about the violist who bragged that he could play 32nd notes?
The rest of the orchestra didn't believe him, so he proved it by playing one.


Why is viola called "bratsche" in Germany?
Because that's the sound it makes when you sit down on it.


Why can't a violist play with a knife in his back?
Because he can't lean back in his chair.

What instrument do violists envy most?
The harp. You only ever have to play pizzicato on open strings.

What's another name for viola auditions?
Scratch lottery.


What is the difference between a violist and a prostitute?
A prostitute knows more than two positions.
Prostitutes have a better sense of rhythm.


What is the similarity between a violist and a prostitute?
Both are paid to fake climaxes.

How do you get a dozen violists to play in tune?
Shoot 11 of them.
Shoot all of them.
Who the hell wants a dozen violists?

What's the latest crime wave in New York City?
Drive-by viola recitals.

How does a violist's brain cell die?
Alone.

How do you call a violist with two brain cells?
Pregnant.

Why do violists have pea-sized brains?
Because alcohol has swelled them.

How many violists does it take to make a batch of chocolate chip cookies?
Ten. One to stir the batter and nine to peel the M & M's.

What's the similarity between the Beatles and the viola section of the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra?
Neither has played together since 1970.

What is the longest viola joke?
Harold in Italy

What do you call a bunch of violists in a hot tub?
Vegetable soup.


Did you hear about the violist who played in tune?
Neither did I.

What is the main reqirement at the "International Viola Competition?"
Hold the viola from memory.

Why did the violist marry the accordion player?
Upward mobility.

How do you transcribe a violin piece for viola?
Divide the metronome marking by 2.

Why do you always bury a viola player three feet under?
Because deep down they are all very nice people.

How do you keep a violist from drowning?
Take your foot off his head.

What are the three positions of the viola?
First position, emergency, and defeat.

From Jessica Smith
Posted on May 23, 2005 at 02:18 AM
Wow.

poor violists....

~Jessica

From Ben Clapton
Posted on May 23, 2005 at 05:28 AM
the funny thing is, most of them you can apply to violins as well...

Just like the old Holden/Ford jokes (if you're an australian)

From Danielle Goatley
Posted on May 24, 2005 at 12:17 AM
So funny, even though I do have some violist friends, none as good as me though. They are always the worst section in the orchestra, wonder why?
From Anna Rose Lawrence
Posted on May 24, 2005 at 01:03 AM
aaah viola jokes... gotta love 'em. even though i've just discovered that playing the viola is a lot of fun! now everyone keeps directing jokes at me and telling me not to become one of "them"-- not to join the dark side!
From Danielle Goatley
Posted on May 24, 2005 at 01:30 AM
No! Don't be a traitor!

Shhhh...(I kind of like the viola occasionaly. But all the viola players I know STINK!!!!!!!)

I have another to add to the list.

When your friends look in your closet, they think your a strange Goth. On the bottom you have your black concert skirts, the top your white blouses.

From Katie Bailey Waller
Posted on May 24, 2005 at 02:16 AM
Love the viola jokes!
I played viola for years and years.
Now that I'm playing mostly fiddle... I get a kick out of the fact that in folk music circles the banjo players gets what I got as a violist!
It's all fun!
Katie
From Dougie Lawrence
Posted on May 26, 2005 at 07:46 AM
When you can't tell the difference between an Aberdeen Angus bull and the N.Y.Philharmonic.
From Ben Clapton
Posted on May 26, 2005 at 11:29 PM
I now know what a German sixth is! and a french, and italian, and neoppolitan
From Owen Sutter
Posted on May 26, 2005 at 11:45 PM
but not austrian? heh, i think maybe its another word for german, i've never heard of it and there's only so many augmented sixth chords you can make.
From Emily Grossman
Posted on May 27, 2005 at 04:06 AM
Maybe you gotta be a violist to play an Austrian sixth.
From Pieter Viljoen
Posted on May 27, 2005 at 04:22 AM
It's funny, if I compared how many good violinists I know vs how many I know in total, to how many good violists I know vs how many I know in all, I'd have to say that I know far more good violists. It's not as competitive a field, but being at a school where there is a particularly strong viola studio (with only 1 or 2 not so advanced/serious students), I definately know a lot of good violists.

The jokes are of course all in good fun. I'm sure that in the back of the viola section there have been some very witty cracks made about violinists.

From Jessica Smith
Posted on May 27, 2005 at 02:47 PM
Nice Emily! (grin)

~Jessica

From Jessica Evans
Posted on June 7, 2005 at 02:40 AM
You know you're an orch dork when you get terribly upset when your friends ask, "So, is your band playing tonight?" "ORCHESTRA! It's called ORCHESTRA! NOT band."
From Lauren Smith
Posted on June 7, 2005 at 02:45 AM
oooh HECK YES!!! those are all so true..haha gosh so many listed lets see if i can come up w/ at least one.. ummm, just when you practice for fun and play it upside down, backwards.. ur screen name on aim is "musicnotes100" and ur email is "mozartfan..." i get mad when ppl say u cant make a living off of violin..hey hey hey..u dont know that.. oh yes and the viola jokes!!! ;)
From Scott Hawthorn
Posted on June 8, 2005 at 10:59 PM
It's all just good-natrured joking, I think (hope). I believe the jokes stem from the parts the viola players are often given to play in orchestral music.

Me, I prefer to play second or third parts.

From Patty Rutins
Posted on June 9, 2005 at 01:32 PM
Yep, it's definitely because there are some viola parts that really stink. Anyone else out there ever played the viola part to "Sleigh Ride"?
From Ben Clapton
Posted on June 10, 2005 at 10:43 PM
it's about as interesting as watching paint dry, watching grass grow, and cleaning your room on a warm summers day.

However, there are some pretty good viola parts out there - Mozart wrote some ones that test the player out, and I believe Brahms wrote some good parts as well. This is mainly because they were viola players and played that part, so obviously they wanted to have an interesting part for themselves.... selfish pigs ;)

From Elizabeth Benedict
Posted on July 7, 2005 at 01:13 AM
Another sign that you're an avid orch dork:

when all of your dreams are accompanied by lush orchestral soundtracks.

No kidding, I've had many a dream filled with music, and not music I've heard before either, but gorgeous music...and then once I wake up, I can't remember what the music sounded like. Perhaps I'm subconsciously a Mozart, my brain filled with new music that only escapes when I'm asleep.

From Craig Stratton
Posted on July 7, 2005 at 12:26 PM
How do you shut up a violinist?

Put some music in front of him.

From sara a m
Posted on July 7, 2005 at 10:50 PM
YKYAODW...

...you name all of your Sims after composers...

...you change your screen name to insaneorchdork...


Both things I did today....

From Danielle Gauthier
Posted on July 8, 2005 at 01:09 AM
YKYAODW

You copy/paste this list into a description on a dating website...
...and you know you aren't alone when you get a match.

From Carley Anderson
Posted on July 9, 2005 at 12:56 PM
Wow, I can't quit laughing!

Too bad for the blondes...I mean, violas, excuse me. :) I always tell everyone that the violas are considered the "blondes" of the orchestra...loved sometimes, but considered...uh...stupdid at some time.

Once an orchestra was playing Fur Elise and violist in the audience came up to the principle violist and said, "I just loved the trill you all played in that last piece!"

From Danielle Gauthier
Posted on July 9, 2005 at 06:11 PM
Yeah, I happy/sad that there aren't any violists in my high school orchestra...
Happy because...well, y'know
and sad because we sound really bad without them (like it'd be any better otherwise)
From Jessica Smith
Posted on July 9, 2005 at 07:19 PM
Danielle-

Thats what it was like at my first high school. We had a 3rd violin section to play those parts.

~Jessica

From Danielle Gauthier
Posted on July 9, 2005 at 10:50 PM
yeah, too bad we don't have any to spare...only ten i think for next year. it was 20 a month ago...real inspiring.
From Amanda Stern
Posted on July 20, 2005 at 11:27 PM
You know you're an Orch Dork when:

~You tape "Orch Dork" to your case in big letters!
~You practice for more than 3 hours a day!
~You can say, "I'm an Orch Dork and I'm proud of it!" with a straight face!

From Susan Jeter
Posted on July 21, 2005 at 06:22 PM
I've been an "Orch Dork" for many years...

I don't know if these qualify or is just related to music in general...

When you're playing something on the car radio/cassette player/CD player and you get to your destination and you have to wait until the end of the phrase before you turn it off...

I was working in this building where there was an anteroom and three doors with keypad locks and I told my boss that they were all a quarter-tone off and he said "Only you would say that"...

From Joseph Galamba
Posted on July 21, 2005 at 06:35 PM
lol, OMG, I do so many of those! Ok two things: Firstly I actually know who Dohnanyi is and how to spell it, but I can't pronounce it. Do you know where I can find this information? Secondly I know someone who, when a rock group came to our school and played on the quad dragged the grand piano out of the music building and started playing so loudly that he drowned them out, even with their amps (didn't sound very good though) of course, that might have been because they stopped playing after a while...
From Danielle Gauthier
Posted on July 21, 2005 at 06:46 PM
YKYAODW

If someone asks you to get them ice, you ask if they would like it 'crushed' or 'melodic'

From Sarah Vandemoortele
Posted on July 21, 2005 at 07:53 PM
You know you're an Orch Dork when you get upset when your grandmother asks you to play a song on your guitar...
From Joseph Galamba
Posted on July 21, 2005 at 07:54 PM
OH GOD, I would go crazy!
From Karin Lin
Posted on July 21, 2005 at 10:47 PM
For those who haven't seen this yet...I first read about it in the paper but the following text is pilfered from KDFC, the SF Bay Area's classical station.


Dork Pride!
July 19, 2005
Steffi Weiss is a dork and proud of it. The 15-year old plays in her suburban Chicago high school orchestra, and instead of ducking the dork label, Steffi decided to embrace it. She and a friend made up black mesh sports jerseys with the words "ORCH DORKS" in big white letters across the front. The back has their names, while their instruments are printed on the sleeves. "We used to not be able to stand the fact that we were in orchestra," says Weiss, who's been playing violin since fourth grade and proudly wore the shirt to her high school this year. Increasingly people are parading around in shirts that say "Dork Pride!", among other things. Such items have gotten so popular that CafePress.com, an online merchandiser, has created a special category for shirts and other items celebrating geeks, dorks, and nerds.

--Betsy O'Connor, KDFC News

From Jim W. Miller
Posted on July 21, 2005 at 11:46 PM
I will be ordering Dork Pride shirts to give away as gifts.
From Joseph Galamba
Posted on July 22, 2005 at 02:57 AM
Oh, I just thought of one. This is from a High School Science Competition.

You know you're an orch dork when the proctor asks "The standard American Orchestra tunes to an A of..."
and you scream "440 vibrations per second!"
and the judge says "incorrect, an a of 440 hz, what is the frequency of an A 2 octaves above that note?"

Lol, this really happened to!

From paul king
Posted on July 22, 2005 at 06:30 AM
Dohnanyi, is pronounced dokNYAhni, (stress on the upper case letters). yup, i'm a card carrying, fully paid up dork, and proud of it!

paul

From Joseph Galamba
Posted on July 22, 2005 at 06:56 AM
yay! thank you. I'm assuming that the k is in the throat.
From paul king
Posted on July 22, 2005 at 07:57 AM
i dont know...i'm not THAT much of a dork :) Maybe some of the Russians on the board can help us out.
From Juanita Marion
Posted on May 17, 2007 at 06:16 PM
~Practice for 3 or more hours a day
~Suddenly find you don't have very much in common with your friends anymore since you've started playing
~Exercise your fingers on your gripmaster while: walking, riding the bus, at school and during class
~Spend the majority of your time practicing and on violinist.com
~Buy clothing and accessories in either the shape of a violin, or with sheet music printed on it
From Eugene Chan
Posted on May 17, 2007 at 06:19 PM
Why only Tchaikovsky? Tchaikovsky and Brahms had the same birthday. :-)
From Ray Randall
Posted on May 17, 2007 at 07:33 PM
OMG. We've been playing Ratscrew incorrectly all these years according to this thread. We have been using hammers or even knives on occasion.
From Maura Gerety
Posted on May 17, 2007 at 08:11 PM
Here's a similar list that my friend sent me: this is "You know you're a theory geek when..."

1. you whistle in style brisé.
2. your favorite pickup line is, "What's your favorite augmented sixth chord?"
3. your second favorite pickup line is, "Would you like to raise my leading tone?"
4. you have ever played the how-many-episodes-is-too-m
any-episodes fugue game.
5. you have a poster of Allen Forte in your room.
6. you know who Allen Forte is.
7. you dream in four parts.
8. your biological clock follows a non-retrogradable isorhythm.
9. you can improvise 16th-century counterpoint with no trouble, but you frequently forget how to tie your shoes.
10. you will look at a piece by Bach and say, "You know, I think he could have gotten a better effect this way . . ."
11. you expected something quite different out of The Matrix.
12. you can answer your phone with a tonal or a real answer.
13. you like to tease your friends and loved ones with deceptive cadences.
14. you know how large a major 23rd is without having to count.
15. you only drink fifths, and then you laugh at the pun.
16. you feel the need to end Tchaikovsky's Pathétique Symphony with a picardy third.
17. your favorite characteristic of Brahms's music is the subcutaneous motivic play.
18. instead of counting sheep, you count sequences.
19. you find free counterpoint too liberal.
20. Moussorgsky's "Hopak" gives you nightmares.
21. you wonder what a Danish sixth would sound like.
22. you long for the good old days of movable G-clefs.
23. the Corelli Clash gives you goosebumps. Every time.
24. you can hear an enharmonic modulation coming a mile away.
25. you can hear Berg's lover's dog coming a mile away.
26. you have had to be forced to stop labeling motives.
27. you confuse fishsticks with ground bass.
28. you found No. 27 funny.
29. you have ever quoted Walter Piston.
30. you like to march to the rhythm of L'histoire du soldat.
31. your license plate says: PNTONL.
32. you have ever defended yourself with, "But Gesualdo did it!"
33. you have ever tried to do a Schenkerian analysis on "Three Blind Mice."
34. you have ever tried to do a Schenkerian analysis on 4'33''.
35. you have ever had a gebrauchsmusik party.
36. you have ever tried to hop onto the omnibus.
37. you like to wake up to a Petrushkated version of "Reveille."
38. you lament the decline of serialism.
39. you know what the ninth overtone of the harmonic series is off the top of your head.
40. you keep the writings of Boethius on the coffee table.
41. you have ever dressed up as counterpoint for Halloween.
42. you have ever written a musical palindrome and given it a witty title.
43. you can name ten of Palestrina's contemporaries.
44. you have ever found a typographical error in a score by Ives, Nancarrow, or Babbitt.
45. you have ever heard a wrong note in a performance of a composition by Ives, Nancarrow, or Babbitt.
46. you already sensed that if this list had been written by Bartók, this would be the funniest item.
47. you enjoy the tang of a tritone whenever you can.
48. you've let the rule of the octave determine how you go from one event of the day to the next.
49. you have ever played through your music as if the fingering markings were figured bass symbols.
50. you suspiciously check all the music you play for dangling sevenths.
51. you have devised your own tuning method.
52. you keep a notebook of useful diminutions.
53. you have composed variations on a theme by Anton Webern.
54. you know the difference between a Courante and a Corrente.
55. you have trained your dog to jump through a flaming circle of fifths.
56. you have ever used the word fortspinnung in polite conversation.
57. you feel cheated by evaded cadences.
58. you organize phone numbers based on their prime form.
59. you find it amusing to refer to you ear-training course sections as your "pitch classes."
60. every now and again you like to kick back and play a tune in hypophrygian mode.
61. you wonder why there aren't more types of seventh chords.
62. you wish you had twelve fingers.
63. you like polytonal music because, hey, the more keys the merrier.
64. you abbreviate your shopping list using figured bass symbols.
65. you always make sure to invert your counterpoint, just in case.
66. you have ever told a joke with a punchline of: because it was polyphonic!
67. you have ever named a pet, instrument, boat, gun or child after Zarlino.
68. you have an <0 1 4> tattoo.
69. your lips may say, "perfect fourth," but in your heart it will always be "diatessaron."
70. you have ever said, "Yes, didn't Scriabin use that sonority in . . ."
71. you know dirty acronyms for the order of sharps.
72. you can name relatives of the "Grandmother Chord."
73. you're still wondering why I haven't included the "must-resolve-the- dominant-seventh-before-go
ing-to-bed" indicator.
74. you can not only identify any one of Bach's 371 Harmonized Chorales by ear, but you also know what page it is on in the Riemenschneider edition and how many suspensions it has in the first four bars.
75. you got more than half of the jokes on this list.

From Susan Jeter
Posted on May 17, 2007 at 08:50 PM
"~You sing along with the microwave."

I worked for this company awhile back where the outer hallway had three office doors, each with one of those locks where you have to press a series of buttons, and each one had its own electronic beep (not separate beeps for each button). I told my boss that the locks were all a quarter-tone off and he said "Only you would notice that."

Also, after learning the sequence, muscle memory would take over, and if a coworker asked me what the numbers were, I'd have to stop and think or run the pattern with my fingers to remember what it was.

From Christopher Burndrett
Posted on May 17, 2007 at 09:15 PM
How about:

While other saved their money for gizmos, clothes, an such - you saved $200 to shop at your local sheet music store.

And:

Your violin loan payment is more than your car payment.

Both of these pretty much describe college for me.

From Maura Gerety
Posted on May 17, 2007 at 10:30 PM
You Know You're a Hungarian Dork when....

...you notice the incorrect pronunciation of "Dohnányi" given a few posts above in response to somebody's question and it bothers you like an itchy mosquito bite, even as you're slapping yourself in the face for being so nitpicky and obnoxious. (The stress is actually on the first syllable, and the "h" comes out as sort of a soft "kh".) Don't mind me....

From Gerard Tan
Posted on May 18, 2007 at 03:38 AM
...when your children (aged 9 and 11) say that you're obsessed with the violin.
From Marty Dalton
Posted on May 18, 2007 at 03:57 AM
...you have discussions about the tuning of A (440, 442, 443, etc.)

I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY!!!

From Jodi Bernard
Posted on May 18, 2007 at 07:18 PM
when you listen to your dog lap water from his bowl... and it is a 7/8 pattern 12 12 123...
From Susan Jeter
Posted on May 18, 2007 at 08:12 PM
Jodi...

Now I have to clean up my keyboard...

From Dion Wright
Posted on May 18, 2007 at 10:02 PM
Susan, don't tell me you joined in in unison...
From Jodi Bernard
Posted on May 20, 2007 at 01:53 PM
ok ok true story:

I stepped out of a rehearsal once in the middle of the piece to nurse my daughter and when I came back I started joining back into the piece that we were playing.

The conductor stopped the orchestra and asked, "Where were you?"... embarassed, I said "I'll tell you later."

The oboeist next to me said "He meant, where were you in the piece." (I had missed a repeat)

The oboist and I still laugh at that one... he must of thought I was such a smartbutt.. I never did tell him what I actually did.

From Albert Justice
Posted on May 21, 2007 at 03:18 AM
While not in an orchestra, many applied....

...have skipped many meals to play.
...have seriously diverted friends to practice, or didn't hang out because of messing up practice time.
...have molded all free time around practice.

I love this violin--now if I could only play it!.

From Emily Grossman
Posted on May 21, 2007 at 08:56 AM
I prefer to eat my meals.

But I do admit to shunning friends and activites in preference of a little solitude with my violin. I get disgruntled when people encroach on my personal time.

From Ali Konopka
Posted on May 21, 2007 at 03:49 PM
YKYAODW:

...you talk in your sleep about theory (its happened to me, its almost embarassing to admit haha).

From Susan Jeter
Posted on May 21, 2007 at 10:06 PM
Dion, LOL.

My comment was meant to simulate the spraying of liquid on the keyboard after sipping tea and bursting into laughter...

but it also could mean after I was lapping the dog's dish and spraying water...

as I don't have a dog, that didn't happen, but it might have!

From Albert Justice
Posted on May 22, 2007 at 02:31 AM
...play until 4am then wake up and wonder why my left wrist feels like noodles sometimes.
From Mendy Smith
Posted on May 23, 2007 at 03:20 AM
...when you write out some music in different keys when trying to explain different "user interface" styles to software dorks.... (BTW, it worked).
From Laura W.
Posted on May 24, 2007 at 01:16 AM
Black fingertips.
From Nicole Stacy
Posted on January 28, 2008 at 01:20 AM
You know you're a violin/orch/music dork when...
...you spell 'SALOME' in a game of Scrabble (that rule about proper nouns sucks, by the way!). And take a picture to preserve your dorkdom for posterity.
...you pay 5000 bucks to live in a shack in the woods, eat questionable food, and practice like a freaking maniac -- and like it.
...Scotch Fantasy = Scratch Frantically and Franck Sonata = Frank Sinatra.
...you play your invisible violin in public places such as in restaurants and on airplanes when you really need to practice; strange looks ensue.
..."But how do you know it's in D major?"
"Because it starts on D, has two sharps, and says 'Concerto in D Major'?"
...designing the next round of clever recital flyers is the highlight of your year.
...bumper stickers. 'Nuff said.
...you think that 'Conductor' should count for a foreign language credit.
...you have ever sung along with someone practicing a concerto, at the minor second.
...you fall asleep at the piano and wake up with key imprints on your forehead.
...you get a call from SHAR: "Your teacher said to get your credit card number..."
...you compare hickeys.

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