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Gil Shaham-Comments&OpinionsViolinists: What do you think of Gil Shaham?From Charles Tapia Maybe it's just me, but I think there's a special synergy between Gil and the "Countess Polignac" Stradivarius he posesses. Based on only the cover of that CD, it looks as though he uses Dominats with the typical Gold Label E (or is it a Larsen E), but I'm not sure. Does anyone know for sure? I'm interested in what you have to say, opinions and facts alike.
From Adam Smith
He is amazing and his Saint Saens 3 recording is outstanding. So articulate, so perfect, such a sweet tone...
Posted on October 10, 2004 at 10:31 AM From Ryan Beauchamp
Gil Shaham is a great guy, and very friendly.Posted on October 10, 2004 at 03:28 PM He has such a beautiful tone and is so articulate; although, he does put a tad too much emotion into his playing. When I met him, he said he does use dominants. I am positive that he uses a gold label E.. His Strad does have an odd history. When I met him, he told me that rumor said that one of Ben Franklin's mistresses owned the violin for a short period.. Too me, this rises questions on which one of Ben Franklin's mistresses owned the Strad!! hehe From Owen Sutter
"although, he does put a tad too much emotion into his playing."Posted on October 10, 2004 at 07:27 PM what? how do you do that? From Enosh Kofler
Speaking of, I just saw a concert of him play the Brahms with the Berlin Phil a few days ago. He did really awesome. Before that, I haven't heard much of his stuff and I was really impressed. Then my friend let me borrow his Sibelius/Tchaikovsky CD and I really like the way he plays them both. Sometimes his shifts don't work but that's OK. Over all, he's one of my favorites and I like him better than Vengerov, Midori, Chang, etc.
Posted on October 10, 2004 at 08:03 PM From Larry Brandt
I recently saw his video of the Carmen Fantasy and I was really blown away. His playing is really and truly great!
Posted on October 10, 2004 at 08:36 PM From Brian Bak
Gil Shaham has been discussed many times, in his own seperate topic, but I don't mind praising him all the time. He is a wonderful violinist, and I once said his Brahms was surprisingly good, meaning that I expected it to be good, but it was even better than good. It was great. He is one of my favourite violinist, who almost never forces his tone, and plays with lots of passion. His phrasing always makes sense, and is interesting and engaging. The only recording I don't like of his is the Mendelssohn Concerto.
Posted on October 10, 2004 at 11:01 PM From Cynthia He
My favorite Shaham recording is "American Scenes," with Andre Previn. It's so fun; a twist on the usual repertoire (includes Previn's sonata for violin/piano, Gershwin preludes, Copland something), lyrical, and memorable.
Posted on October 11, 2004 at 05:12 AM From Julie C.
I love Shaham's playing! It is so inspiring. I think the reason why I like it is because it is so clean, articulate, and musical. I especially like his Prokofiev CD.
Posted on October 11, 2004 at 05:15 AM From sara a. m.
I have one of his cds "Devil's Dance" and I think it's great, especially the Danse Macabre. He plays with such force and emotion, almost as if he's witnessing what he's playing. It's wonderful.Posted on October 11, 2004 at 11:54 PM Sara From sara a. m.
Anybody know when he began the violin?
Posted on October 12, 2004 at 09:51 PM From Jonathan Parle
I believe he started on the violin aged 7. That would have been around 1978.Posted on October 13, 2004 at 10:24 AM Incidentally, he put out a very good Faure CD last year under his new label, Canary Classics. He is about to release a Prokofiev CD under the same label. Lets not forget his sister Orli is an excellent pianist in her own right and she accompanies him in this new CD I believe. A good interview with Gil and Orli Shaham and some playing here: And I should add I have to agree about other people's comments regarding the synergy with his particular instrument. He certainly does produce a very unique sound with it. From Violin mac
I think he had an interview with The Strad magazine end of last year. It was once published in the classicalmusicworld website, but not anymore. Anyone happen to know the link of that article? Thx!
Posted on January 16, 2005 at 05:15 AM From Violin T
I think he's one of the 10 best players in the world today. A distinct personality, and a wonderful violinist.
Posted on January 16, 2005 at 05:52 AM From Jenni Thompson
I think he's great. His Copland duo recordings with Previn are nothing short of inspiring.
Posted on January 16, 2005 at 06:17 AM From Jenna Anderson
His playing is so clean and elegant. He was my first favorite player. When I was in ninth grade all my friends had crushes on Justin Timberlake (or whoever the pop icon at the time was... I never really kept track). Anyway, my celebrity crush was Gil Shaham. I went to see him play with the Cleveland Orchestra and then talked to him afterwards. My hands were shaking and I told him that his playing was an inspiration to me and he said, "You're so sweet" and touched my right arm. The next day I was practicing and I had so much more control in my bow arm. It was The Gil Shaham Miracle.Posted on January 16, 2005 at 04:52 PM Jenna From Scott 68
i totally love his sound, very expressive and eloquent vibratoPosted on January 16, 2005 at 05:09 PM at times he can be lacking attack but he is one of my favorite players cds i liked cds i didnt like bland From Sarah Wallin
I went to hear Gil Shaham play several years ago at the Dorothy Chandler, and the next day I was able to observe a masterclass led by him at the Colburn Schol in LA (California). Wonderful personality! Very friendly, inspiring, had a lot of good comments for the students who played for him... And I'll never forget how (during his own performance) when he hit an especially energetic spot in the music, he literally began to "dance" around the stage (he was playing with only a pianist, so he had room!) He was so vibrant and commanding in his performance! =)
Posted on January 16, 2005 at 05:55 PM From Pauline Lerner
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread. I had thought that Shaham's playing was sloppy and schmaltzy, but I'll listen to him some more and reconsider.
Posted on January 16, 2005 at 07:49 PM From Robert Smith
scott please name a better recording of the wieniawski 1
Posted on January 16, 2005 at 08:44 PM From Scott 68
rabin
Posted on January 16, 2005 at 09:20 PM From Robert Smith
yes, i've heard rabins recording and it is inferior imoPosted on January 16, 2005 at 10:09 PM I thought i said to name a BETTER recording ;) From Robert Smith
inferior relative to shaham's i mean
Posted on January 16, 2005 at 10:10 PM From Scott 68
i disagree stronglyPosted on January 16, 2005 at 10:13 PM thats ok though everyone should have their own opinion From Violin T
Also Perlman in Wieniawski 1 is as good as Rabin, I think.
Posted on January 16, 2005 at 11:45 PM From Stephen Brivati
Greetings,Posted on January 17, 2005 at 02:52 AM Midori`s is exceptional if you listen to it a lot. It is more er, feminine, but has a lot to offer, Cheers, Buri From Mattias Eklund
I agree, Midori has a sensous way of playing it that is refreshing.Posted on January 17, 2005 at 03:56 AM Gitlis has a fun version to :) From Alrick Archambault
Great violinist. His carmen fantasy (Sarasate) live recording is amazing
Posted on January 17, 2005 at 04:05 AM From Squeaky box
I have just seen Gil Shaham playing Dvorak. It was a wonderful concert!! I have to say he's my favourite violinist. Gil Shaham is not only a great player, but also a *great* person. I am sure everyone would agree with me how nice, genuine and sincere he is. He was signing autograph after the concert, and he would take his time to ask people how they they're doing. I was really nervous and just gave him the CD cover for him to sign. he signed and initiated conversation with me! What a nice guy. I told him I never went to any classical music concerts until I accidentally heard him played 3 years ago (this is the truth). He was very surprise and asked if I also became a violinist :) So we chatted for 5 minutes! Posted on February 8, 2005 at 05:59 AM In case anyone is interested, he told me he has recorded the "Butterfly Lover's concerto" and the CD will be released in a few months. I simply cannot wait to get that! It'll be interesting to see him play this traditional chinese piece. Btw, does anyone know where you can find his touring schedule? I am hoping he will have an official website that has updated news and touring information, so we wouldn't miss any of his performances =) From Amy F.
I have heard him a couple of times in the past year, once at Blossom with Cleveland Orch playing Dvorak's Romance and the Butterfly Lovers' concerto, and once at Severance Hall playing Berg Violin Concerto. He is really one of my favorite players, especially because of his phenomenal sound. I highly recommend his recording of Prokofiev 2nd sonata.
Posted on February 8, 2005 at 05:35 PM From Tom Holzman
I have heard him several times. His Four Seasons is wonderful. I have also heard him do an excellent concert of Mozart and Prokofiev sonatas with his sister. The Mozart is particularly impressive because much of the Mozart done today is fairly pedestrian (I am not all that impressed with Hahn's Mozart and wish she would wait before recording it). He is clearly one of the best today.
Posted on February 8, 2005 at 05:31 PM From Mark L
I love Gil's playing. It is really refined and seamless. His Schubert album is particularly nice, although he plays everything wonderfully. His Tartini is about as good as they get. I saw him play Brahms with the TSO once. Probably the nicest tone of any violinist I have heard. He's one of those "elegant," always-tasteful players, like a young Kremer or Grumiaux. Posted on February 8, 2005 at 10:12 PM From Scott 68
I think there is a shaham/brahms concerto with abbado dvd out there, it was reviewed in last months strad if i rememver correctlyPosted on February 8, 2005 at 10:17 PM ive never seen it for sale yet though From Scott 68
oops here it is
Posted on February 8, 2005 at 10:20 PM From Scott Hawthorn
Hey Scott 68, when did you say that Oistrakh/Brahms vid was coming out? I'm getting antsy!Posted on February 8, 2005 at 11:44 PM -Other Scott From Amy F.
Scott Hawthorn, I thought the Oistrakh Brahms video was out? I watched some video of some kind of Oistrakh playing Brahms concerto the other day, but maybe we're talking about something else. Posted on February 9, 2005 at 03:02 AM Scott 68, I love that dvd of Shaham playing Brahms. It's so great. It was interesting to watch Oistrakh play Brahms concerto and then Gil Shaham. They are both such wonderful players in totally different ways. From Scott Hawthorn
It's been out in Europe since last year, apparently. There is one available in the U.S. that includes only one movement. Scott 68 had announced in another thread that it would be made available sometime in February. Sorry to veer off-topic here.
Posted on February 9, 2005 at 03:28 PM From Amy F.
Scott, Posted on February 9, 2005 at 04:57 PM Oh yeah, now I recall that my friend whose dvd it was got it in England. I hope it comes out soon here! From Suzanne Cerquone
There's a nice interview with both Gil and Orli here:Posted on February 9, 2005 at 05:29 PM http://www.iclassics.com/featureArticle?contentId=3218 From Scott 68
The oistrakh came out feb 1 in the usa get it herePosted on February 10, 2005 at 03:47 PM and the shaham you can get here From Tom Emmert
I heard Gil play the Dvorak With the Dayton OH. Phil. 8-10 years ago, and as usual was totally swept away by his grasp of how to really make music.Posted on February 10, 2005 at 11:12 PM After intermission, when the orchestra came back on stage for Beethoven's 5th, I spied Gil taking last chair 2nd violin section for a little sight reading practice (utterly without fanfare). How common is it for a soloist to play with the orchestra after his solo is complete? (I've heard of one or two other cases.) From Tom Holzman
Hilary Hahn does it. Also, I was once at a concert where a pianist named Jan Jirichek gave a terrific performance of Beethoven's Emperor Concerto. After intermisiion, he reappeared in the trumpet section and proceeded to play trumpet in the last piece.
Posted on February 10, 2005 at 11:27 PM From Stephen Brivati
Greetings,Posted on February 11, 2005 at 01:31 AM DuPre did it a lot, Cheers, Buri From Kannan Mahadevan
Really? Do you remember where you read/heard that about du Pre?
Posted on February 11, 2005 at 02:23 AM From Wenhao Sun
I read this discussion a long time ago, and now I'm bringing it back to life. I absolutely love Gil Shaham's Wieniawski/Sarasate CD, and recently I got his Sibelius/Tchaikovsky CD. But, um, I was just wondering... does he ever sound to anyone else like he's... less in tune in the Sibelius than, say Heifetz or ... well, anyone? I think some of his runs sound a little off. Am I wrong? His tone is lush and great and I like the interpretation but some notes just seem out of tune. Perhaps I just need to work on my ear. Did anyone else get this feeling? Gil Shaham is probably one of my favorite violinists, but this CD was kind of a shaker.Posted on April 30, 2005 at 11:37 PM - Wenhao Sun From Christina Wilke
I love Gil Shaham and I'm happy to see this conversation resurface.Posted on May 2, 2005 at 03:21 AM I'm actually not terribly familiar with his Sibelius CD. I dont' know how is intonation is on that particular CD, but what I love about him is that I don't really care to listen to the specifics like that with him. I have his Barber concerto and it's truly sublime. Unfortunately, London Symphony does not sound great on it, but they do follow him well and he doesn't get covered up. I saw him last year play with San Francisco (althoguh they were in Cleveland at Severance Hall). He was playing the Berg Violin Concerto and broke his E string in the middle of the performance. He quickly switched violins with the concertmaster, who I believe was playing on the Heifetz Guarneri (or at least some Guarneri). He went from playing on a beautiful Strad with a shoulder rest to a Guarneri without a shoulder rest. His intonation was still so exquisite that he was nailing double harmonics. On a side note, I went to see him after the concert, and I started explaining how amazing his performance was. After a few minutes, he started giggling and said, "Oh the Berg? I can only play the first four notes in tune...." Not only is he an amazing violinist, but he's rather funny too. From Tom Holzman
Shaham has a typically self-deprecating Jewish sense of humor.
Posted on May 2, 2005 at 02:01 PM From Owen Sutter
if he grabbed alexander barantschik's violin, then yes, it is the heifetz/david guarneri. actually, i'm curious, what did he sound like on it? he has a very interesting sound and i always wonder how much of it is him and how much is violin.
Posted on May 3, 2005 at 09:25 PM From erin dupree
He is the cleanest player I know of his phrasing is impeccable.
Posted on May 4, 2005 at 01:45 PM From Scott Hawthorn
I heard his Tchaik today, and amazing and expressive as he was, I was shocked at the slow tempo! Do I need to get out more?Posted on May 5, 2005 at 02:11 AM -Scott From Mike Harris
I've got his recording of the Franck/Debussy/Ravel sonatas, and it's a real pleasure to listen to. I'd love to hear more of his work.
Posted on May 5, 2005 at 05:56 PM From Scott Hawthorn
>From Scott 68Posted on May 7, 2005 at 02:00 PM Posted via 216.69.223.206 on February 8, 2005 at 3:17 PM (MST) I think there is a shaham/brahms concerto with abbado dvd out there, it was reviewed in last months strad if i remember correctly< I got this DVD and watched it last night. Wowie! If you like Shaham, you'll love this DVD. He has tremendous power, isn't afraid to play pianissimo, incredible articulation and clarity, and has some, shall we say, unique interpretations, few of which annoyed me. >G< I like Abaddo; he smiles at his players and stays the hell out of the way. -Scott H. From Scott Hawthorn
To add a bit of further thought to my mini-review:Posted on May 7, 2005 at 03:36 PM The tempos are very fast, but they don't feel hurried at all, unlike some other fast performances of the Brahms I have heard. Shaham makes time for what's most important when he needs to, without fuss. What's especially impressive to me, as a die-hard fan of Grumiaux's, is that Shaham understands and brings out the grandeur and majesty of the piece. I find this quality to be missing in many performances of it. That inludes the dramatic ending, which is not always given careful attention as to the ritardando and decrescendo, and its power to give the feeling of bringing down the curtain on the high drama that has just taken place. Some players/conducters just throw this moment away. Shaham "gets it." Abbado and The Berlin make the most of the beautiful woodwind ensembles that this piece offers. I have seldom heard such attentive and sensitive woodwind work in a large orchestral setting. I give this recording a Five-Fermata rating! From George Philips
I saw him in concert in Purchase, New York about a month ago and what really impressed me was his face - he was always smiling! I'm of the belief that playing a piece well is pretty good, but looking like your really enjoying it can kick it up a notch. His tone is drop dead gorgeous - so warm and sweet, and his intonation is near flawless. He almost never plays out of taste, and knows how to have fun with a piece (Wieniawski's Pollonaise Brilliante in A). My only slight complaint against him is his Bach. I personally prefer a more Baroque approach, but if you love a nice thick Bach, he'll do quite nicely.
Posted on May 7, 2005 at 06:18 PM From Arjun Kumar
First, a general comment about Shaham: He is amazing. There is so much expression and emotion in his playing that it goes miles beyond "mastery," and I really believe that at a certain point expression is more important than technical skill.Posted on May 12, 2005 at 08:54 PM Second, a response to the comments on the Sibelius recording. I hear what you're saying about the intonation or shifts perhaps being a bit off...but I think that's more a part of his style than a fault. His playing is expressive, and thereby it is "shmaltzy" - when he shifts he drags his fingers and lets the notes go out of tune before they find their way back. So I definitely wouldn't criticize this, especially since a player at his level is unlikely to have such technical problems as intonation. I think rather this is a deliberate component of his style, which is all about freedom and feeling, and that's exactly why it is so beautiful. From Matt Jenetopulos
Has anyone heard the CD "The Fiddler of the Opera?" of Shaham playing opera transcriptions? Not only is some of the music really cool but his playing is quite spectacular. I'm hoping to go see him play Sibelius with the NY Phil in June. I'll let you all know how that goes.
Posted on May 13, 2005 at 02:11 AM From Brian Hong
Such a warm tone, and so clear! He is great!
Posted on June 4, 2005 at 02:06 AM From Brandon C
Regarding the Sibelius/Tchaik CD;Posted on June 4, 2005 at 02:41 AM Unforunately, I don't have the CD with me, but from what I remember, there is quite a bit of very audible splicing going on. I realize that splicing may be a regular practice now, but common....don't let me hear it! Please! Lie to me...make the splicing quiet....make me believe it's all one take, please! As a finished product, the Tchaik is marvelous. There is a lot of excitement and you can tell Shaham is having some fun (eg the little grace note he adds in the last movement, in the scale coming down from the high D For Sibelius, I am not sure if his sound is suited for it IMHO. Don't get me wrong - he plays beautifully. But that's the thing. .It's just seems "too beautiful", if that is possible.....which is why I'd be hesitant to pick up a recording of him doing Prokofiev first sonata (which I BELIEVE is going to be part of his Prok project on his new label). Sloppy and Schmaltz? For me, this is a good description of Perlman. Please do not send me death threats :) BC
I'm really surprised that so many of you consider him a "clean" player. For my ears he's the very opposite. I've seen him live once, and I have to admit, yes, he played very clean. But his recordings are sometimes really awful, sorry. Especially his Brahms recording is so full of inaccurate intonation, I can't listen to it, no matter how much I try. Excuse me, but I really cannot understand why he is so admired by so many.
i will admit i like his barber and the schubert for two recording he did but after hearing him completely butcher the brahms concerto live and on record, i have trouble taking him seriously as an international concert soloist.
Does any one know how to get a copy? He does this wonderful demonstration of the different sounds that he makes with his bow and what it make him think of in the music. And then of course they play it with scenes from winter. I would love to have it for teaching in my studio.
http://www.pbs.org/lflc/airdates.html
Thanks for saying that Peter. I noticed minor out-of-tune playing and was struggling to decide whether or not I cared, given the other great features of his performance. It was instructive to me to hear the interview, where he revealed that the Sibelius was one of two pieces he heard over and over as a child. I have never cared for the concerto much, but his love for the piece was obvious when he played it and helped me to see its better points.
http://www.nytimes.com/pages/arts/music/index.html FMF
I find much more of interest in the following movements. Somebody teach me: what's so great about the Sibelius?
Only caught the last few seconds of the Sibelius (*harumph!*) which sounded great. Wasn't a fan at all of the Bach. It seemed WAY too forced. Preston
Definately beautiful phrasing (though I could've done without SO much vibrato) and beautiful intonation. It just seemed like he was worried the back balcony was not going to hear. Perhaps from their standpoint it was perfect. Difficult to tell as I have yet to play a solo at Lincoln Center ;) Preston
He polished off the Sibelus at age eight. Did anyone have the opportunity to watch that lovely PBS concert live the other evening?
Eric
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