Violinist Bin HuangViolinists: Recordings and Performances: I was rather impressed with her sound. Does anyone have any other information about her?
From N.A. Mohr
I was rather impressed with her sound. Does anyone have any other information about her?
From N.A. Mohr...sorry I made an error...I believe she tied in a Wieniawski competition and won the Paganini...
Posted on July 28, 2004 at 01:08 PM
From N.A. MohrJust resurrecting this...I'm still interested if anyone has heard her, or of her...
Posted on August 9, 2004 at 03:40 PM
From Jo MarinCheck out this link. http://www.violin.org/ivci/laureate_list2.html#huang
Posted on August 9, 2004 at 04:58 PM
From Christine Choihi. i have heard her live in concert a few concerts ago, and was amazed with her technique. it's amazing. my former teacher also knows her pretty well, and has said that she workds very hard and her parents also worked hard too. i've also heard that she would like to be very famous, but doesn't have any real good connections.
Posted on August 9, 2004 at 06:44 PM
From Christine Choihi. i have heard her live in concert a several years ago, and was amazed with her technique. it's amazing. my former teacher also knows her pretty well, and has said that she workds very hard and her parents also worked hard too. i've also heard that she would like to be very famous, but doesn't have any real good connections.
Posted on August 9, 2004 at 06:44 PM
From N.A. MohrThanks...that's what I wondering about...
Posted on August 10, 2004 at 03:05 PM
...I then have another question...if Bin Huang would like to go 'pro' and has the talent...
...why wouldn't it happen?...
From Emil Chudnovsky1) Bin IS a pro. She makes her living playing the violin, and is surely among the 100 most accomplished players in the world today.
Posted on August 10, 2004 at 09:41 PM
2) Talent means "aptitude". Players at this level have more than "talent", they have skill and even, hopefully, command of the instrument. They may even have artistry, though that's never a given.
3) Careers are not made because someone has either the talent (or aptitude, rather), nor even because someone has skill or professional-level command of the instrument. Careers are made for a variety of reasons, many having little or nothing to do with the actual playing of the person in question. If one ever doubts that bad playing or lack of aptitude are not an obstacle to a huge money-making career in the crossover field, at least, one need only look at people like Vanessa Mae or Andre Rieu to see that not being an actual classical violinist does not preclude your becoming Fiddler to the Masses.
The answer to "how does one make a career as a violinist" fills many books, though, so I won't presume to even begin answering that one.
From N.A. MohrMaybe we just don't hear about the top 100? Maybe we only hear about the top 20?
Posted on August 10, 2004 at 09:51 PM
From Emil ChudnovskyWe really only hear about the top 5 or so in this country, and a different set of 5 to 10 in Europe. But the command of the instrument that I think of as professional-level is probably enjoyed by thousands. Many of them, of course, are orchestra players.
Posted on August 10, 2004 at 09:51 PM
Still, it's pretty impressive to think that the kind of skill level this profession demands in order to make one a professional is one that mere thousands, out of 6 BILLION, have attained. A pretty elite bunch...
From Francis BrowneHhhhmm. Very interesting discussion. Being in the US, I'd definately agree that we largely hear only about a few rising stars...Hillary Hahn and Ilya Gringolts (sic?) come to mind, and a few others. Surely there are lots of others at 99.999% the skill level of those two, and probably even some with the same excellent level of musical personality, who don't make it into a first-class soloist career due to other reasons (lack of marketing? etc?).
Posted on August 12, 2004 at 05:19 PM
*begin non politically correct flamebait*
And some of her crossover work contains what sounds to my ear like decent renderings of parts of Pagannini Caprices and the Tartini (which works surprisingly well with a beat, actually IMHO). In my book, anyone who can play the Tchaik classifies as a classical violinist, even if the performance isn't soloist caliber (and I think this one was competent myself, and I've heard about two dozen versions).
From Francis BrowneOops ... the last message was supposed to contain the last two paragraphs about Vanessa Mae in "begin/end non politically-correct flamebait" tags, but I used actual less-than and greater-than signs, and it looks like it ate them because of this. :-(
Posted on August 12, 2004 at 04:57 PM
From Emil ChudnovskyFrancis, what you wrote about VM is hardly a flameball; it didn't even invite flame responses. However, it's simply too bighearted of you to classify VM as even potentially a classical violinist. The girl lacks skills so fundamental that, were she in a competition, people would talk about why someone so incompetent should have dared enter. Needless to say, she'd be eliminated in the first possible round - whether eliminatory or actual first round.
Posted on August 12, 2004 at 07:01 PM
And of course it's not necessary to do well in a competition to be a classical violinist. But a few things are indeed essential: intonation, rhythm, sound. She has none of the above in any proportion higher than that necessary to ENTER a non-professional music school. Not to mention her vibrato, which is, to all intents and purposes, nonexistent.
From Francis BrowneHmm. I'll have to re-listen to my classical album set of hers. I certainly see how those qualities aren't always obvious in her pop (some of which I also find the music writing a bit banal). My point was really to quibble with the idea of calling anyone technically capable of playing the Tchaikovsky at all anything other than a violinist. (And it's not completely automaton-like IMHO.) My sense of her Tchaik recording, as I recall, was that had I got it as a bargain bin CD with a violinist I had never heard of before, I would not have been particularly disappointed. Of course, it can't touch Stern, Oistrakh, or even IMHO Gringolts (who has my current favorite recent version).
Posted on August 12, 2004 at 08:05 PM
So maybe she's top 10,000 or 50,000 rather than 1,000. Dunno. Of course, a lot of people can play the Tchaik. (I can even play some fair portions of it myself, though nowhere near performance or recording level. I went to school Huang Bin at Peabody. We both studied with the late great Berl Senofsky. We played chamber music together and compared Ernst's Last Rose of Summer. She is an exceptional violinist and was always very impressive during the four years we new each other. Hi, I remember her from Peabody; stellar violinist. Though she spells her name differently, I believe this is her: http://www.laphil.com/philpedia/artist-detail.cfm?id=68 Cheers! Christian, they are not the same person.
I went to school Huang Bin at Peabody. We both studied with the late great Berl Senofsky. We played chamber music together and compared Ernst's Last Rose of Summer. She is an exceptional violinist and was always very impressive during the four years we new each other.
I remember her from Peabody; stellar violinist. Though she spells her name differently, I believe this is her:
Christian, they are not the same person.
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